sandclouds
Beginner
the price is around 72K , but msrp is $599(50k rupees ).
how long i have to wait for the price to go down to msrp?
how long i have to wait for the price to go down to msrp?
Graphic Cards Is it worth it to buy 9070xt now?
- Thread starter sandclouds
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USD MSRP will never happen here, for multiple (and obvious) reasons.
Best case? 65K or so.
el_diablo
Explorer
You didn't include taxes and currency margin in MSRP. Fair price should be around 65k but i dont think we will get them at the said price anytime soon. The lowest I have seen them drop currently is 70k.
CasualGamer91
Forerunner
Not worth it... 5070 similar price, similar performance
Amd always gets lower sale because their terrible pricing at launch. They think they can compete with nvidia. But if two similar graphics card at similar price by nvidia n amd. I will always buy nvidia, just because i can do more than gaming if i want, like running local ai, edit videos, running video upscalling software etc. so suppose even if nvidia is little behind raster performance i will still buy nvidia. Because AMD gpu is a piece of bricks other than gaming, also they are quite poor in terms of PCB design, mosfet and memory cooling... Brands themselves cut costs because they know the sales would be low..
I honestly think the price of 9070 should be at 30-35k rs and 9070xt at 40-45k rs. If they really want to make sales in india (or anywhere else to a normal person, not youtuber/reviewer)
Amd always gets lower sale because their terrible pricing at launch. They think they can compete with nvidia. But if two similar graphics card at similar price by nvidia n amd. I will always buy nvidia, just because i can do more than gaming if i want, like running local ai, edit videos, running video upscalling software etc. so suppose even if nvidia is little behind raster performance i will still buy nvidia. Because AMD gpu is a piece of bricks other than gaming, also they are quite poor in terms of PCB design, mosfet and memory cooling... Brands themselves cut costs because they know the sales would be low..
I honestly think the price of 9070 should be at 30-35k rs and 9070xt at 40-45k rs. If they really want to make sales in india (or anywhere else to a normal person, not youtuber/reviewer)
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el_diablo
Explorer
And you think nvidia prices are right for the gaming performance, features and use cases you listed ?
9070 XT has 5070 Ti level performance for nearly 15-20k less. OP asked for an AMD gpu price so its good to assume he doesn't want to do productivity tasks.
I agree with you on this but nvidia pricing is more shitier than AMD.
PS: I have a 5070 Ti but i still sometimes regret of buying it over a 9070 XT.
The highlighted part is the only (somewhat) sensible sentence in this entire statement, and I mean that very loosely.
The rest of it just sounds like a fanboy rage-rant, with no organized dissection of pros and cons.
CasualGamer91
Forerunner
Nvidia price are justifiable..they are being generous to sell a 5070 at 60k including GST. DLSs works really good, runs cooler, eats less power.
You never own a amd GPU dude, stop being delusional. Amd gpu sucks, runs hotter, undervolting is also unstable. Gpu board manufacturer do cost cut heavily on amd graphics card like asus, zotac, gigabyte, msi. Everybody knows stock will not going to be cleared unless there's chip shortage..
Let the market speak for itself
This is sarcasm… right?.. right?
el_diablo
Explorer
Inflation adjusted core config across Nvidia series by Gamers Nexus. "Generous" pricing for a xx50 card at the price of a xx70 card.
Dude, I run both a Nvidia and an Amd gpu. I run cad, adobe and other 3d software on my Amd card. It all works just fine.
If you want to buy Nvidia because you have had good experiences with it sure go for it. Jensen does need more money. He only has the one leather jacket.
But my man, where are you hearing about bad pcb design on the amd cards? Buildzoid has a full series on how amd's power delivery is load-balanced on the Vegas using simple engineering rather than any sort of active monitoring system that was in the 20 series nvidia. Think of it like Nasa making a super fancy and expensive pen that can work in zero G vs just using a pencil.
Plus the 50 series founders board design is pretty bad. You've heard about the nvidia cards' power connectors melting, right? Plus it was very easily avoidable with a second connector or just not making the 12v 2x6 as one common bus with no possible way to load balance it. (though that is more of an atx specification stupidity)
This also goes back. They used to put fuses in the cards so that its easy to repair.
Then there is the fact that board manufacturers like Gigabyte, Asus, Asrock design their own pcb. Nvidia and Amd give a "reference" design which tells the manufacturers what is required to run it at minimum. Then board partners can go higher or lower and do their own design. You cant say that they cut costs with Amd and not with Nvidia when things like the 7900xtx aqua exist. Besides, GN spoke about how Nvidia squeezes its partners. How Evga would make 4$ profit on a 600$ graphics card.
And this is not to say that Amd is awesome and Nvidia is shit. No.
All companies have both good products and shit products.
Darth Vader
Galvanizer
AMD need to do what they did with Ryzen if they want to persuade Nvidia fanbois to their side, instead they already given up. AMD don't even have an answer to 2 year old RTX 4090, how are they gonna catchup if they leave that segment entirely to leather jacket. If this continues, Leather jacket will rebrand 5060 cards as RTX6080 next iteration with 8X fake frames for 1500 USD and you'll have eat that because no competition.
I personally would like to see AMD offer something on all price segments so we can get better VFM Nvidia cards not lies from Leather jacket.
I personally would like to see AMD offer something on all price segments so we can get better VFM Nvidia cards not lies from Leather jacket.
AMD RX 9070 vBIOS flash offers up-to 20% performance boost — modders claim OC beats 9070 XT
Close enough, welcome back, Vega 56.
Before anyone jumps in with "but doesn't the 9070 XT have more physical shaders?"
My guess is that the 9070 XT's architecture isn't making proper use of all its shaders.
Also, the BIOS flash seems to allow the 9070 to OC higher than the XT's base clock by around 200 MHz, which is making up for the hardware gap.
Case in point - the 3080 can be OC'd to match a stock 3080 Ti (I can personally attest)
I remember the Fury closed the gap with the Fury X similarly.
It's nice to see some old-school vBIOS performance modding again after a long time
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Slightly OT. Anyone knows if this is better than the sapphire pulse? I've been waiting for the pulse to drop to 70.
Yeah sapphire pulse is the basic, entry level card. This is considered a better model than pulse.
YeAhx
Galvanizer
FSR 3.1 is very close to DLSS now and they keep updating and improving it, If I play on an nvidia card obviously I would still be running DLSS but for AMD cards FSR is a godsend and remember it still runs on all GPUs so if DLSS in a particular game is causing you issues (ghosting/trails, artifacts etc.) then FSR saves the day.
As for the pricing AMD's might seem higher because its NVIDIA who won't keep pricing at an expected level. They really don't care because they aren't profiting much from consumers, their main profits come from data center sector.
If I read correctly the vbios flash allows for unlocking OC limits set by AMD to that of RX 9070XT which leads to higher overclocking potential, it doesn't unlock "cores" as those are still faulty (what made the card into a 9070 as opposed to its XT variant).AMD RX 9070 vBIOS flash offers up-to 20% performance boost — modders claim OC beats 9070 XT
Close enough, welcome back, Vega 56.www.tomshardware.com
Before anyone jumps in with "but doesn't the 9070 XT have more physical shaders?"
My guess is that the 9070 XT's architecture isn't making proper use of all its shaders.
Also, the BIOS flash seems to allow the 9070 to OC higher than the XT's base clock by around 200 MHz, which is making up for the hardware gap.
Case in point - the 3080 can be OC'd to match a stock 3080 Ti (I can personally attest)
I remember the Fury closed the gap with the Fury X similarly.
It's nice to see some old-school vBIOS performance modding again after a long time
OMEGA44-XT
Innovator
FSR4 is better than DLSS 3 but still inferior to DLSS4. Bigger problem is backward compatibility of FSR4. If AMD keeps it restricted to Radeon 9000, devs will not adopt it. Nvidia has made DLSS version upgrades much simpler now, game devs don't even have to update the game to support DLSS4 & it works on even RTX 20 series. This is a huge win for Nvidia & definitely a big miss for AMD.
But sadly Nvidia GPUs are overpriced now, so there's that.
But sadly Nvidia GPUs are overpriced now, so there's that.
jaswanth2703
Contributor
My mind was blown after seeing this videos. What a downgrade after 10xx series onwards.
CasualGamer91
Forerunner
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I am aware of the vbios flash. But never achieved stability at lower voltages at desired frequency on an AMD gpu. Probably they use lower quality silicons. Which is highly likely, since they cant sell them well
I just want the 9070 non xt for the crazy good efficiency it has to round off my already super efficient cpu setup. I'm using a 4060 recently which is similar levels of efficiency. A 5080 would have been great if not crippled by the measly 16gigs. Blackwell is absolute snoozefest from green team. Red team at least delivered on what they promised with the whole rdna lineup. Awaiting to see where they take it with UDNA... Intel disappointed with least amount of commitment, there aren't still any B series cards officialy available here, the top and lower end battlemage are likely axed.
Wait out a bit more, the prices will drop but not much. I'm patiently awaiting steel legend 9070 msrp to pop up. (Wont pay above 50)
Wait out a bit more, the prices will drop but not much. I'm patiently awaiting steel legend 9070 msrp to pop up. (Wont pay above 50)
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