Joggers! Your source of energy/strength?

dipen01 said:
Should one start runninf flatout from the first day itself ?

What should starters do ?
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Nope thats really wrong. I remember this occasion, a hot shot just simply whizzed by me, I was doing about 4th round(total 8) and body was in nice pace. Had never seen that guy before jogging and could immediately make out that he is amateur. Nevertheless got back him in next 0.8 km and overtook him. By then he was so much exhausted that he even couldn't do decent fast walking. So:

1. Start with slow pace.
2. First 10 mins, you should coax your body in continuing.
3. Afterward you would feel the urge to speed up, but thats very dangerous, if you do that you wont hit the track next day, so don't do it.
4. Always keep energy for slowing doing and cooling down your body, you shouldn't hit shower or sit down immediately after a long track. You should slow down and eventually you would feel your heart slowing from large thumping to regular beating.

If you take a break, then in that case start slowly again. In case I do about 6.6km on average, however if have taken a break, then the first run would be half of what I would do.

Also, you need to wait for results, it's minimum 1 month.

~LT
 
I used to run 30mins in the Morning at 5 or so and 20-30 mins after 9 pm :P I generally love to listen soft music while starting coupled with some rock /pop type..

My Gear : Ipod Shuffle + Bundled earphone

Songs I like to hear while Jogging : -

1. Linkin Park

2. Insomniac

3. Blues

4. Some Hindi tracks

5. 50 Cent

If you want to boost up your strength and endurance .. I would recommend slow running for long period of time..and after that 2-5 Mins of vigorous running :ohyeah: If you are bulky start with brisk walk and end with low jogg.

That will do the job.. ;)
 
nukeu666 said:
i stick to upbeat stuff like power metal and kylie minogue
it saw me thru during the marathon last year
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Yeah man! It becomes really difficult to complete the run without music, I had tough time completing the pune track.

~LT
 
linuxtechie said:
Nope thats really wrong. I remember this occasion, a hot shot just simply whizzed by me, I was doing about 4th round(total 8) and body was in nice pace. Had never seen that guy before jogging and could immediately make out that he is amateur. Nevertheless got back him in next 0.8 km and overtook him. By then he was so much exhausted that he even couldn't do decent fast walking.
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You are assuming his objectives were same as yours. What you are doing and suggesting is good for losing calories if you dont have the willingness to push yourself for a sprint, building resistance and strengthening your anaerobic respiration for running marathons.

However if you want to build agility, speed and strength in leg muscles then the best workout is running flat out. But yes even that should should start with a warm up of say 200m light jog and few minutes of stretching in summers, and even more in winters.

After each sprint of about 60, 100 or 200m you should walk the same distance to cool down your msucles. (you do for example 100X4 in splits, not just one 100m sprint and go home smiling)

Needless to say sprinting also burns fat at a higher rate during and even AFTER you finish doing it. Without going much into science I would say that it changes your metabolic rate to cope with your intense training session you just had.

So what I want to say is, that maybe the guy was looking to sprint and not jog, without commenting on how he went about it.

@dipen01 - if you want to sprint then you can do flat out. Just follow the 'warm up-sprint-cool down' regime. Initially take longer rests and run shorter distances. Then gradually increase your distance to 100 or 200m and still take similar rest between splits.
 
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Thanx Kumar, Linux, Renegade..

My primary motive is burning calories :bleh:

Speed and Strenght are secondary :)

I guess i am gonna surely start from tomorrow..:D I normally take bath at 6 so i guess i am gonna have to leave by 5 ;)

Slow running and walking tomorrow...

Damn.. Just found another excuse, i dont have sports shoes.... :(
 
:lol: get one then. That brings me to another point. Always make sure that your shoes are properly cushioned if you are going to run on a hard surface. Jerks can damage your knees in the long run. Also they should not be flat, instead a bit curved at the heels and toes.
 
Aces170 said:
No music,

I fast jog on weekends at 10 in the morning with the full blast of the sun, the only thing on my mind the next place where I will get something to drink.... Actually the humidity here in Mumbai is good for that purpose makes you sweat like anything.... increases the speed at which fat is burned
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Not true.

Just because you sweat more doesnt mean you burn more fat. You just feel like that. Do you mean to say if I perform a very intensive workout in an air conditioned gym, I am not burning enough calories compared to if I workout outside ? It's not true at all.

by your logic, people in tropical countries should be thin and people from Scandinavian countries should be fat.

But see Tongans. 70% of Tongan women aged 15-85 are obese. Tonga and nearby Nauru have the world’s fattest populations.
Renegade said:
:lol: get one then. That brings me to another point. Always make sure that your shoes are properly cushioned if you are going to run on a hard surface. Jerks can damage your knees in the long run. Also they should not be flat, instead a bit curved at the heels and toes.
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Shoes depends on your feet structure.

I have been researching a lot about this recently as I need to buy a good pair of running shoes and I have flat feet.

How To Choose The Right Running Shoes for Overpronators

I am an overponator. My feet roll inwards while walking/running.

Best Running Shoes for Flat Feet

Running Shoe Guide - How Do I Choose The Right Shoes?

How to Buy Running Shoes

How to Choose Running Shoes

Selecting Running Shoes

Go through these links. They are very useful. When spending 2-3k on a pair of shoes make sure you get one which is best for your feet.

I have suffered a lot by using wrong type of shoes. Hope you dont make the same mistake.

BTW, when it comes to music, Dream Theater gives me a high when I listen to it. It works best when I am struggling on the cycle or treadmill or something.

Especially "honor Thy Father" from the album Train of Thought. "Stream of Consciousness" from the same album is also wonderful.

Almost all the songs from the album "Images and Words". Especially Learning to Live.

Sometimes Metallica also works for me. Especially from S&M.
 
dipen01 said:
^^
Thanx Kumar, Linux, Renegade..

My primary motive is burning calories :bleh:

Speed and Strenght are secondary :)

I guess i am gonna surely start from tomorrow..:D I normally take bath at 6 so i guess i am gonna have to leave by 5 ;)

Slow running and walking tomorrow...

Damn.. Just found another excuse, i dont have sports shoes.... :(
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For fat burning, make sure your heart rate is not too high .About 70% of your MAX heart rate.

If you are unfit, it might be about 140 or so. If your heart rate is above that, no problems, but in that case, you are actually in the cardiovascular zone rather than the fat burning zone.

So, whatever you do, make sure you are breathing hard but not so hard that you are almost panting. You should have a good rhythm going.
 
Nice research there Nikhil :D

Yeah i definitely need to get shoes at the earliest..

I havent stretched myself in long time as in i dunno my limit.. So i guess i will just go step by step.. Initially walking - slow running - Small sprint - walking.. I can vary the proportions once i start feeling comfortable ;)

Damn shoesss... Sigh..
 
guys how do you mark your jogging track on google\g maps ??

i prefer jogging\running between 5-6 in the morning just before sunrise..and even the streets are empty :P

i usually carry my pod+ep 630 loaded with the latest "a state of trance episode "

or some nice progressive trance muzik.

trance gives me that feeling to keep on running ...:)
 
Renegade said:
You are assuming his objectives were same as yours. What you are doing and suggesting is good for losing calories if you dont have the willingness to push yourself for a sprint, building resistance and strengthening your anaerobic respiration for running marathons.

However if you want to build agility, speed and strength in leg muscles then the best workout is running flat out. But yes even that should should start with a warm up of say 200m light jog and few minutes of stretching in summers, and even more in winters.

After each sprint of about 60, 100 or 200m you should walk the same distance to cool down your msucles. (you do for example 100X4 in splits, not just one 100m sprint and go home smiling)

Needless to say sprinting also burns fat at a higher rate during and even AFTER you finish doing it. Without going much into science I would say that it changes your metabolic rate to cope with your intense training session you just had.

So what I want to say is, that maybe the guy was looking to sprint and not jog, without commenting on how he went about it.

@dipen01 - if you want to sprint then you can do flat out. Just follow the 'warm up-sprint-cool down' regime. Initially take longer rests and run shorter distances. Then gradually increase your distance to 100 or 200m and still take similar rest between splits.
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Very well agreed, but you don't start with sprint objective from the day first, it has to be gradual increase, always the objective in any athletic sport is to start and maintain, instead of busting out after the first attempt. Never saw that guy after that. Hell, I don't see many off them. All I see at time of jogging are old people doing there pleasure walk.

Sprinting or Jogging is something that you do on a regular basis, not just once in a blue moon.

~LT
 
Renegade said:
:lol: get one then. That brings me to another point. Always make sure that your shoes are properly cushioned if you are going to run on a hard surface. Jerks can damage your knees in the long run. Also they should not be flat, instead a bit curved at the heels and toes.
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Yeah this one is an important advice. Esp. in my area where that damned builder :@ has covered every inch with concrete.

~LT
 
dipen01 said:
Nice research there Nikhil :D

Yeah i definitely need to get shoes at the earliest..

I havent stretched myself in long time as in i dunno my limit.. So i guess i will just go step by step.. Initially walking - slow running - Small sprint - walking.. I can vary the proportions once i start feeling comfortable ;)

Damn shoesss... Sigh..
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Whatever you do, aim to do it for 20-30 mins continuously. Walking, slow jogging, whatever. Dont push yourself and tire yourself out in 10-15 mins.
 
Im trying to jog since like I remember. But I cant get my lazy ass to run at all. Actually there is a lack of a decent place to run even in my place. Its all built up and no good roads also so that we could run. There is a single highway filled with crazy drivers so am scared of the highway. So on second thoughts am thinking of a treadmill.
 
Starting out can seem imposing, a Personal Fitness Trainer at the Karate Dojo where I work out gave me very good advice. If running for more than 15 mins or so seems a daunting task, then start out with smaller chunks and build up.

Let me explain because this worked for me and I am up to 4 mile runs.
Run for 5-7 mins (whatever you can manage) then walk for a min. then again run for 5-7 and again walk for 1 min. This way you can break it down into manageable sections.
Then, when you are ready, you can start increasing the amount of time to 7-10 mins when you are feeling stronger, and decreasing your min rest to 30 secs.
Slowly you will be able to increase your time to running without a break.

Once you are more comfortable with running it is advised that you exercise for at least a total of 20 mins, to get your heart rate up.. but 30 mins is considered better.

It is VERY important that you warm up and stretch both before and after you run.

Taking a vitamin supplement like L-Glutamine, will help rebuild the worked-out muscles and will help with any soreness. (I take this in general, as I work out a lot, it's great)

Glucosamine will help with joints, and cartilage, so if you have bad knees or anything, this is great.

Make sure you drink plenty of water, and replace the electrolytes after you work out. I usually take a product called Gu before I run or work out. It is an energy gel and recovery supplement and is taken about 15 mins before you work out. Also I buy after work out drinks bottles or powders that I mix with water. Make sure that you are getting low sugar products, too many of these products have sugar in them and are not that great.

These products can really help with the initial recovery time while you are building stamina.

I agree sprints can be good for stamina... but if you want to burn calories, then more running and less sprints. HOWEVER I think it is good to actually do both.
Run for your allotted distance/time and at the end, do a few sprints..
Also large flights of stairs are excellent for this type of work out, running up and down stairs as a part of a running program will really help build stamina and endurance... but mostly it will burn a lot of calories too.
 
PiXeLpUsHeR said:
Starting out can seem imposing, a Personal Fitness Trainer at the Karate Dojo where I work out gave me very good advice. If running for more than 15 mins or so seems a daunting task, then start out with smaller chunks and build up.

Let me explain because this worked for me and I am up to 4 mile runs.
Run for 5-7 mins (whatever you can manage) then walk for a min. then again run for 5-7 and again walk for 1 min. This way you can break it down into manageable sections.
Then, when you are ready, you can start increasing the amount of time to 7-10 mins when you are feeling stronger, and decreasing your min rest to 30 secs.
Slowly you will be able to increase your time to running without a break.

Once you are more comfortable with running it is advised that you exercise for at least a total of 20 mins, to get your heart rate up.. but 30 mins is considered better.

It is VERY important that you warm up and stretch both before and after you run.

Taking a vitamin supplement like L-Glutamine, will help rebuild the worked-out muscles and will help with any soreness. (I take this in general, as I work out a lot, it's great)

Glucosamine will help with joints, and cartilage, so if you have bad knees or anything, this is great.

Make sure you drink plenty of water, and replace the electrolytes after you work out. I usually take a product called Gu before I run or work out. It is an energy gel and recovery supplement and is taken about 15 mins before you work out. Also I buy after work out drinks bottles or powders that I mix with water. Make sure that you are getting low sugar products, too many of these products have sugar in them and are not that great.

These products can really help with the initial recovery time while you are building stamina.

I agree sprints can be good for stamina... but if you want to burn calories, then more running and less sprints. HOWEVER I think it is good to actually do both.
Run for your allotted distance/time and at the end, do a few sprints..
Also large flights of stairs are excellent for this type of work out, running up and down stairs as a part of a running program will really help build stamina and endurance... but mostly it will burn a lot of calories too.
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Excellent peice of advice, I hope there are no side effects with those meds. Will google myself, though, please do share your views as well.

~LT
 
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