Karnataka Elections 2018

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Then such actions should be labeled as such. As indiscretions and shenanigans. Doesn't make it aright just because somebody else did it before.
 
The problem is there is no precedent set. Can't say because X was done in case A, B , C same has to be done for D. Each case is unique and has to be taken on its own merits

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panzer008 said:
yea assuming... but since the Governor didnt offer them to form the Gov means they didnt have the numbers at the time.

Letting BJP form the Gov is currently the best case scenario BJP could have asked for... I dont think they will let this opportunity go... some how they will bring the half way mark within their reach
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Forget the BJP, is the decision in the best interests of the people ?

As yet we do not know the full criteria that went into making this decision
 
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Lord Nemesis said:
Party with largest number of seats in Goa was congress with 17. BJP has only 13 and neither had majority. Yet, BJP was invited to form govt based on their claim of having majority after including the independents and and then do floor test.
In Karnataka, Congress + JD(S) is the same situation now, but BJP is given the first opportunity.
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You need to Stake Claim to Form Govt ; Convenor for state Digvijay Singh didn't find time from his Goa Resort schedule to forge an alliance in Goa. He was heckled for same by madam for this.

BTW, BJP needs only 8 MLAs for Majority, another 3 remaining seats will go for by-elections later, out of them BJP in high probability will win two. BJP can destabilize Cong JDS alliance anytime because their requirement is only few MLAs, relatively speaking BJP can give a more stable Govt than JDS +Cong alliance. JDS Cong alliance letter doesn't have signatures of all 118 MLAs, so Governor can't be questioned.

There are many in JDS who don't align with Cong, In fact Sidhramaiah was X-JDS who is not liked by HD. Same thing is shared by many in Congress as well. Thus, JDS+Cong was going to be more unstable Govt. Many Lingayath MLAs of Cong are in open rebellion against Sidhramaiah, in fact Cong #2 DK Shivkumar is giving hints of defection to support BJP. He holds more Cash than 5 Gadkaris! There are many secret pre poll alliances with JDS MLAs by BJP according to leading Kannada daily. They may just abstain from Voting on Confidence motion and let Yeddy prove his Majority. Its not only Cong but JDS (now out of Power for 10 years) is also facing existential crisis, getting 8 MLAs should not be a problem.

BTW, Cong is offering CM chair and Ministers to keep BJP away from power, though they have double the number of MLAs than JDS, why? Its horse trading en masse!
BJP ready to pay 100cr for getting support. Funnily, Both are talking about ethics. Buta Singh, Bharadwaj etc are few Sycophant Governors, used by Cong previously in such scenarios. Congress has systematically derailed institutions to keep the Monarchy alive. They're just reaping what they have sown, anyone supporting Cong to oppose BJP is simply imbecile. Yes the 3rd front without Cong is the best way to stop Modi.

What was wrong with Cong Govt? Well Many in fact.. Lingayaths Minority status and Kannada Linguistic identity politics during Elections was a blunder. Undue minority appeasement in the garb of Secularism, insulting Hindus, corruption Allegations etc. State IAS officials were killed in spite of which he maintained an unapologetic Arrogance, which killed his chances of re-election. Not Controlling PFI activity in the state, political murders of RSS activists & passing Illogical KPME ACT affected Cong badly. It was more Anti Congress vote than pro BJP or pro JDS vote. The Indira Canteen Will soon be a Scam to be revealed if BJP comes to Power. Sidhramaiah just needs to be in a ruling alliance just to cover his tracks. He even lost MLA elections from his own Constituency.

Yeddy signed up for Lingayaths Separate religion when he was having his own party. Now he realizes his mistake, but nevertheless its Amit Shah who needs to be acknowledged for BJP victory. BJP has 36.5% vote share but 104 seats, Congress has 38% of total votes but 77 seats, that's pure political acumen and Shah has once again proved himself. Even Rahul G has consistently proven himself, but none of the Slaves will question him for losing elections.

This is the best chance for BJP to prove majority and give a good government. Otherwise reelection in 3 yrs is an unfortunate reality.
 
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tl;dr Congress did it first. Amit shah has big dick than rahul

you just cannot say Congress+ JDI is not going to be unstable so BJP should form first.You don't know the future. Hard facts matter. Now that BJP has set the precedent, you cannot fault future parties for adopting the same dirty playbook
 
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you just cannot say Congress+ JDI is not going to be unstable so BJP should form first.You don't know the future. Hard facts matter.
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Aka the stability reason. Sounds reasonable but the catch is its not the governors job to ensure stability. Our system isn't dependent on stability, its dependent on consent and that is a floor test in the present. Only one of the two parties can win that.

The future will take care of itself. If support is pulled later, then we deal with it. That is the system. At any time if support is missing, then govt has to go. It's a live system with no preset term

Now that BJP has set the precedent, you cannot fault future parties for adopting the same dirty playbook
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There is no precedent here as mentioned earlier. It's arbitrary taking into account the situation. Governor has discretion but not full discretion or complete carte blanche to do whatever
 
The governors themselves seem to be playing dirty politics. Forget the horse trading, the hypocrisy in the outcome is real here.
Congress say they will file a complaint with the Supreme Court but who knows even the SC appears to be inside the BJP/Centre's payroll. BJP just doing BJP things I guess. Otherwise there would've never been any problem with Congress/JDS forming the alliance. You already know what happened in other states like Goa, Meghalaya. BJP is forcing everything to be in their favour no matter what. This is where our so-called Democracy no longer holds any value. I might as well sell my soul to the devil.

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drkrack said:
anyone supporting Cong to oppose BJP is simply imbecile. Yes the 3rd front without Cong is the best way to stop Modi.
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That goes vice versa too. In fact, Anybody supporting either party is an imbecile already. But people in this country love to vote criminals and scoundrels into power as they can empathize with them. I just wish everyone of them suffers for those decisions and severely and not just a select few.
 
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BJP has formed the government?? WHAT THE ****!
Regardless of which community or religion you belong to, today is a black day for Democracy.
 
SC didn't stay the swearing in but the next hearing is on the 19th at 10:30am.

Really burnt the midnight oil. Started at 2am and concluded at 5am

https://www.bloombergquint.com/karn...nment-formation-in-karnataka-today#gs.Qb_Nk0o

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The number is 100 crows. Second time i heard that number in the week

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Problem is the buggers won't answer the phone :D
 
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iPwnz said:
Thanks for this link. It's regularly updated.

Shit is about to get real. I hope. The true colors of BJP is now known to the world.
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If congress does it, Congress is corrupt. If Bjp does it, tis channakya niti.
Its all about branding. Unfortunately Congress still hasnt brought its A game to the table. They still get good vote share, the problem is strategy and the timing. This time their campaign peaked far too early.
 
Party Monger said:
If congress does it, Congress is corrupt. If Bjp does it, tis channakya niti.
Its all about branding. Unfortunately Congress still hasnt brought its A game to the table. They still get good vote share, the problem is strategy and the timing. This time their campaign peaked far too early.
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Its quite funny. If Congress has put all the effort and strategy that they are putting now for this drama before the election, they would have been in a much better position.
 
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Congress developed cold feet and its local leaders were shown door for forming Govt.by party high command

So who will let go of opportunities to form govt..

Karnataka

Congress is second largest party and siddha and hdk hate each other and can’t stand each other,

BJP is single largest party hence asked to swear.

BJP lost many seats thanks to NOTA.

DID YOU BLR GUYS VOTE.?.?.[DOUBLEPOST=1526582178][/DOUBLEPOST]https://www.firstpost.com/politics/...dership-for-failure-to-form-govt-3332096.html[DOUBLEPOST=1526582241][/DOUBLEPOST]
Party Monger said:
If congress does it, Congress is corrupt. If Bjp does it, tis channakya niti.
Its all about branding. Unfortunately Congress still hasnt brought its A game to the table. They still get good vote share, the problem is strategy and the timing. This time their campaign peaked far too early.
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Vote share is via illegal immigrants and appeasement politics thanks to Tipu Jayanti.[DOUBLEPOST=1526582331][/DOUBLEPOST]
iPwnz said:
BJP has formed the government?? WHAT THE ****!
Regardless of which community or religion you belong to, today is a black day for Democracy.
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Where was democracy when hundred of punjabi brothers were burnt alive in 1984 riots?[DOUBLEPOST=1526582483][/DOUBLEPOST]@iPwnz
Person is known by company he keeps.

Aapiya Dhruv Rathi seating somewhere abroad and running these stupid videos which you aapiya’s love as if it’s bible gospel.
 
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http://www.thehindu.com/elections/k...ernment-what-happens-next/article23913978.ece

The Supreme Court on Thursday gave the Attorney General 48 hours to produce the two letters written by the newly sworn-in Karnataka Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa to the Governor staking his claim to form a government.

The top law officer has to procure the documents from the Governor and produce them before the court on May 18 at 10.30 a.m.

The letters, dated May 15 and May 16, are the major focus of the Governor’s invitation on May 16 evening to Mr. Yeddyurappa to form a government the next morning itself.

A three-judge Bench, led by Justice A.K. Sikri, wants to vet the contents of the letters - basically to check whether the Governor’s decision to invite Mr. Yeddyurappa was an informed one.

In other words, the court wants to check whether Mr.Yedyurappa gave sufficient material to the Governor for the latter to have reasonably felt that the BJP leader is the best option and not the post poll Congress-JD(S) combine.
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pratikb said:
Vote share is via illegal immigrants and appeasement politics thanks to Tipu Jayanti.[DOUBLEPOST=1526582331][/DOUBLEPOST]
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Achha, what about when Modi lowers GST On Khakhra From 12% to 5%, right before Gujarat elections?
Or when they stop Petrol price from rising 2 weeks before Karnataka elections and now sudden 2-4 Rs rise to compensate?
Isnt that appeasement politics? Oh wait, thats chanakya niti. lmao
 
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