MH-BJP Govt dictate : Marathi movies on prime time :P

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Perfect, I expected this question coming, Here is My take.

Sanskrit (I have studied for 5yrs) wasn't ever a popular spoken Language in India, I guess it was solely a language of scholars and survived in ancient seats of learning. It has reached a situation where it cannot die further. It is survived by the extensive religious texts and preaching (a form of literature) and a minuscule of population in South Karnataka who still converse in Sanskrit on daily Basis (Maddur , Shimoga District). So when a language dies a natural death it is the literature written in that language keeps it alive or at least for the record. Literature was the only form of linguistic creativity those days, no movies etc, so this language is survived by its literature even in difficult times like this for any Indian language.

Yes , Hindi too is facing this problem so are many other regional languages. Hindi due to a shear mass of population speaking it , makes it less vulnerable. I agree that god knows what Hindi Movies are representing, Neither here nor there. Other than innovative marketing strategies I hardly see anything new in terms of content and story telling in newer Hindi Movies. Actually newer experiments are much easily seen in regional movies, so the question of perceived standard of bollywood cinema doesn't hold any water. especially when majority of blockbusters are shameless rip offs.


Now how would I go about saving a language ? Govt is Partly right, and partly wrong in this affirmative action.

First , is it right to leave commercial viability and free economy to dictate what we chose to save ?
If you leave it for commercial forces then, more than half of the remaining Forests will be destroyed in no time and Tigers will become an endangered species. Maintaining Forests and saving tigers for the future generations is our priority though the money is being spent from the exchequer , though it is commercially a loss making venture. Will you just stop spending on parents medical bills just because it is commercially illogical and investing it somewhere else yields you better results ? So we should come out of the superiority of commercial viability to dictate terms - it is again unduly emphasized criterion ( probably from Management Gurus) for matters like art and literature. Reading a literature for a professional is never going to be logically justified, & we are the victims of too much objectivity & "what I will get from all this " attitude popularized by western niche marketing principles.

Second, The language should reinvent themselves,
should come up with newer innovations, that makes adoption easier. Some amount of affirmative action is needed from the people and government in this regard. You should make it easier to type in Qwerty keyboards, include popular words, though foreign to the native vocabulary so that daily conversation shouldn't be exhaustive. Why English is excelling because, yearly thousands of new words are added its dictionary. Adoption , Updating and user friendliness are a key issue here.

Third, We should be proud of our language and cultural heritage,
if there are Black spots in our history, let me assure you nobody has a clean history ! We should insist on representing in our local language at international forums without feeling bad about not knowing English. Is Italian or a French feel inferior for not knowing English ? why should Indians be ? Come out of this Colonial Mentality, we are no more a British Colony ! Then only the Companies will be forced to make Next Mac OS version with option of Marathi, If Pizza Hut Can be forced to make Tandoori Pizzas and Serve Biryani it is not impossible to achieve. Stop giving undue importance to English. There are convent primary schools in Bangalore who will fine the kids speaking in Kannada inside the premises , even during lunch break ! Such moves should be opposed by all , Kannadigas & Non Kannadigas alike.

Fourth , Linguistic division of states,
Whether it was right or wrong ; we will have to live with it, The local language should be given utmost importance and it is a duty of every resident of the Local area to preserve its linguistic heritage, irrespective of the Fact that language is your mother tongue or not . Let us be united about it.
1. So Please Dear Marathi Manoos, open your arms and show a gesture of outsider friendliness to those truckloads (I don't mean only people from Bihar & UP outsiders in general ) who have come here to earn their livelihood, at the end , it is the Maharashtrian culture which is getting rich by imbibing better customs and traditions in others into your own culture. It is English which is getting richer and stronger day by day with influx of foreign words in its vocabulary. Embracing outsiders whole heartedly will not only enriches your culture but financial gains too.

2. Now truckload of Bhayyajis (I don't mean only people from Bihar & UP outsiders in general ); it is your turn to revert it back ! Had your native states been good enough for you, you wouldn't have migrated in the first place, there is something better here. These local people have welcomed you and allowed you to piece fully earn your daily bread (without forcing you to learn the local language), in spite of knowing that it will dilute their majority on local language and culture. As the next generation Maharashtrians it is your duty to save the local language and culture as much as the duty of Maharashtrians, you cannot have only the comforts without responsibilities. If you have that much respect for a culture and a language because its a birthplace for you or your fathers (native state I mean) , Have some respect and responsibility towards a culture and language which is going to be the birth place for your kid. If you are unable to adopt in spite of max efforts, show the right direction to your future generations. If you genuinely respect your mother tongue, you will respect others mother tongue too, especially if you are residing in that region. For Ex Shettys and Kamath, Pie s etc, they are as Maharashtrian as anybody else though their native language is Tulu or Konkani Respectively.

Had a non Marathi speaking Population came in support of Marathi movies , a small procession holding placards to save Marathi cinema, a token or a gesture of "Marathi Talkies Bharo" , We could have wiped the careers of hate monger politicians , presstitutes and pseudo intellectual writers alike. A clear example could have been set, for rest of India to follow. A clear opportunity missed.

I have numbered them arbitrarily as one and two ; somebody shouldn't conclude that Marathis should open their arms first and outsiders will respond equally later etc.

First understand, it is lack of our unity to speak and practice certain language and culture in designated region , leads to superiority of English language or western culture. If we are united in giving utmost importance the local language and culture, without any force , Nobody can force their language or culture on us. English becomes a common medium because we lack unity. Dear History Pundits, don't make the same mistakes , learn and don't repeat history.

Fifth, In spite of all above measures if a language dies a natural death , let it RIP.
At least we tried our best. Probably we might evolve into some other technology in future where everyone can converse in his own native language still everybody listens and understands in his own language. Who knows what future holds ; probably we may not need a language as a medium of communication itself, probably universal gestures and smileys may take over !


Sorry if it seems long & boring or preaching like, but I couldn't justify not expressing. Especially after those silly verbal fights between my fellow Indians !

So, Marathi movies being so important to our art and culture (!!!!!) needs protection as against Sanskrit for all its contribution our art and literature as it was used by elites (whom we may not like though they are long dead?). Moreover Marathi (protection required) is not as popular as hindi (no protection required) nor as unpopular as Sanskrit (no protection required).

Why should we have protectionism in place when the only contribution it makes a rift between communities. Appreciation of art or culture cannot be forced. An effort must be made to encourage art and culture. Quick fixes like these are only gimmicks.
 
^I am pretty sure its heading right direction. In order to save Marathi Language and Culture it was needed to be done. I hope they invite some Marathi singer who sings Marathi songs in Marathi. That will help save the language.
 
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it been the same way. since long. even when sena was not in power.
No. Earlier, they used to create ruckus, now they officially block events from taking place.
why do you think pakistan cricket team is not allowed to play in mumbai?
Umm... because Pakistani cricketers are terrorists?
In that way, I can claim that all Marathis as racists and intolerant.
anyways you are mixing two different things.
No. It has always been intolerance towards everything that is non-Marathi.
there is always delhi available for the next "aman ki asha" concert.
Why Delhi? Is it not in India?
 
Umm... because Pakistani cricketers are terrorists?
In that way, I can claim that all Marathis as racists and intolerant.

No. It has always been intolerance towards everything that is non-Marathi.

Yeah. But that would've caused huge outrage & outrages don't bring votes! Plus who in their right mind would shutdown the biggest moneymaking industry in their state?

if mumbai has been intolerant towards anything non marathi, they wont have it easy, to setup shop here, let alone grow later into a biggest money making industry nor would any non-marathis flourished in the city or state.
 
if mumbai has been intolerant towards anything non marathi, they wont have it easy, to setup shop here, let alone grow later into a biggest money making industry nor would any non-marathis flourished in the city or state.
The film industry in Mumbai is much older than appeasement politics in MH.
 
if mumbai has been intolerant towards anything non marathi, they wont have it easy, to setup shop here, let alone grow later into a biggest money making industry nor would any non-marathis flourished in the city or state.
By this assumption,can it be implied that Japan and other countries never resurrected from World War.
Life always moves on after atrocities
As for atrocity, this article sums up a better version 2008 attacks on Uttar Pradeshi and Bihari migrants in Maharashtra
The references in the bottom of the article gives an actual glimpse of cheap politics the country as a whole saw in the name of Marathi sentiments

To name a few:
  1. ^ Jump up to:a b "Can't beat them in exams, so beat them up: MNS". The Economic Times (India). 20 October 2008. Retrieved 21 October2008.
  2. Jump up^ "Raj Thackeray a mental case, ban MNS: Lalu". The Indian Express. 20 October 2008. Archived from the original on 22 October 2008. Retrieved 21 October 2008.
  3. Jump up^ "MNS attack: Bihar boy dies, CM announces ex-gratia". The Indian Express. Retrieved 23 October 2008.
As mentioned in an earlier post about Samyukta Maharashtra Movement (SMM) ,please have an insight of what history says about Mumbai before concluding origins or claiming son of soil theory.
Marathi nationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Movement for Maharashtra State[edit]
Main article: Samyukta Maharashtra Samiti
After the Independence of India in 1947, regional administrative divisions from the colonial era were gradually changed and states following linguistic borders were created. The States Reorganisation Act of 1956 created states along linguistic lines. States of Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Kerala were created on 1 November 1956 for Telugu, Tamil, Kannada and Malayalam languages respectively. However, despite being the fourth largest spoken language in India, no Marathi-speaking state was created. Bombay Presidency remained a bi-lingual state shared by Marathis and Gujaratis. Marathi-speaking population remained divided between the Bombay Presidency and regions of Hyderabad State. Moreover, the Marathi-majority district of Belgaum was removed fromBombay Presidency and added to the newly formed Kannada-speaking state of Karnataka, which remains a disputed issue till date.

A massive popular struggle was launched for the creation of a state for the Marathi-speaking people under the name Samyukta Maharashtra Samiti (roughly translated as United Maharashtra Committee). The Gujarati politicians of Bombay Presidency demanded that in case of a separation, the city of Bombay (now Mumbai), a native of marathi people and Marathi people-majority area surrounded by Maharashtra, should be transferred to Gujarat. In January 1960, a peaceful demonstration of the Samiti was fired by the police at Flora Fountain in Mumbai, on the order of the Gurarati Chief Minister of Bombay Presidency, Morarji Desai. 105 people were killed in the firing. This subsequently led hate between marathi and Gujarati and led to the division of the presidency into two linguistic states, and two states of Gujarat and Maharashtra were formed on 1 May 1960. Bombay (now Mumbai) was included in Maharashtra and became the state capital.[11] In addition, Marathi-speaking regions of Hyderabad State were amalgamated with Maharashtra, making it the third largest state in India. Flora Fountain was subsequently renamed Hutatma Chowk or "Martyr's Crossroads" in the memory of the demonstrators who were killed.
The bold captions starts the phase where Mr. Bal Thackeray started the politic gimmick.
And now a new party plays the same to make sure the wounds do not heal.
Marathi sentiments and Marathi people are both juggled for the past 5 decades.
The sense of reasoning is lost for the many I have seen which prompt them to make statements like these.
there is always delhi available for the next "aman ki asha" concert.
People have not forgotten the hypocritical ideologies of the so called Marathi fighters. A fight that started with the Gujaratis, then the South Indians and now North Indians.
Just to make sure the saga continues and vote bank topics stay hot
No Marathi for Raj Thackeray's son?
A couple of years ago, when Raj's son sought admission to Podar College in Matunga and opted for German as a second language bypassing Marathi, partyworkers put up the defence that Amit had opted for German as it was "a scoring subject".
So my dear friend, please move on and learn to reason.
 
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After the Independence of India in 1947, regional administrative divisions from the colonial era were gradually changed and states following linguistic borders were created. The States Reorganisation Act of 1956 created states along linguistic lines. States of Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Kerala were created on 1 November 1956 for Telugu, Tamil, Kannada and Malayalam languages respectively. However, despite being the fourth largest spoken language in India, no Marathi-speaking state was created. Bombay Presidency remained a bi-lingual state shared by Marathis and Gujaratis. Marathi-speaking population remained divided between the Bombay Presidency and regions of Hyderabad State. Moreover, the Marathi-majority district of Belgaum was removed fromBombay Presidency and added to the newly formed Kannada-speaking state of Karnataka, which remains a disputed issue till date.

A massive popular struggle was launched for the creation of a state for the Marathi-speaking people under the name Samyukta Maharashtra Samiti (roughly translated as United Maharashtra Committee). The Gujarati politicians of Bombay Presidency demanded that in case of a separation, the city of Bombay (now Mumbai), a native of marathi people and Marathi people-majority area surrounded by Maharashtra, should be transferred to Gujarat. In January 1960, a peaceful demonstration of the Samiti was fired by the police at Flora Fountain in Mumbai, on the order of the Gurarati Chief Minister of Bombay Presidency, Morarji Desai. 105 people were killed in the firing. This subsequently led hate between marathi and Gujarati and led to the division of the presidency into two linguistic states, and two states of Gujarat and Maharashtra were formed on 1 May 1960. Bombay (now Mumbai) was included in Maharashtra and became the state capital.[11] In addition, Marathi-speaking regions of Hyderabad State were amalgamated with Maharashtra, making it the third largest state in India. Flora Fountain was subsequently renamed Hutatma Chowk or "Martyr's Crossroads" in the memory of the demonstrators who were killed.

the text in bold created tension.

The bold captions starts the phase where Mr. Bal Thackeray started the politic gimmick.
if you are in agreement that people of mumbai , or the shiv sena was the racist kind for the marathis in maharashtra. please read up these.

https://twitter.com/tarunarazdan/status/269779633577263105

https://twitter.com/SamridhiTrisal/status/269776306722463744

https://twitter.com/p_adic_Saurav/status/269784849601163264

https://twitter.com/pawandurani/status/269783355845906432

https://twitter.com/manishaima/status/269777086561009664

https://twitter.com/Panun_Kashmir/status/269773916371816448

https://twitter.com/SleazeMaster/status/269772379826294784

https://twitter.com/rahulpandita/status/269771565980332035

https://twitter.com/AkshayAmbardar/status/269770615374901248

https://twitter.com/p_adic_Saurav/status/269784308653359107

https://twitter.com/rainaamit/status/269766386606280704

https://twitter.com/Sharnarthee/status/269785909413691393

https://twitter.com/AtulPatwari/status/269780243177406464


https://twitter.com/phand00/status/269779589885227009

https://twitter.com/tarunarazdan/status/269783591309938688

as for nothing in news reports to put the other side of story, since i doubt you would be able to read what the marathi news papers were to say about it.

but i have read, similar stories elsewhere
North East states
Biharis have sought work in many states that form part of North East India. There were significant communities in Assam, Nagaland, and Manipur. Biharis who come to work as labourers are frequently and especially targeted in Assam by ULFA militants. There is a fear amongst the local population that Bihari migrants will dominate and annihilate the regional culture and the language. As with all migrations in history, this has created tensions with the local population, which has resulted in large scale violence. In 2000 and 2003, anti-Bihari violence led to the deaths of up to 200 people,[6] and created 10,000 internal refugees.[31][32][33] Similar violent incidents have also taken place recently in Manipur and Assam.[6][34][35] According to K P S Gill waves of xenophobic violence have swept across Assam repeatedly since 1979, targeting Bangladeshis, Bengalis, Biharis and Marwaris.[36]

i would have agreed , if the mah govt decides to ban screening of bhojpuri movies in theatres to be a case of racist discrimination, profiling , but the current ruling is nowhere discriminatory.
 
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LOL.
I think you are already blowing up the racist version of Shiv Sena as all these Twitter post indicate religious racism with affinity to the religious Kashmiri Pandits which was always an agenda of the party.

i would have agreed , if the mah govt decides to ban screening of bhojpuri movies in theatres to be a case of racist discrimination, profiling , but the current ruling is nowhere discriminatory.
Please take some time to read this articleI2008 attacks on Uttar Pradeshi and Bihari migrants in Maharashtra
In the night, 150 suspected MNS activists ransacked Pratap talkies in Thane, pulled out the print of the Bhojpuri film "Saiyan se Solah Singaar" and burned it because Bhojpuri is the regional language spoken in the states of Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. The rioters also damaged the theatre and destroyed the seats. A similar incident was reported in Nashik.[49]
The next day in Mumbai, two motorcycle-borne MNS supporters hurled bottles at Amitabh Bachchan's bungalow at Juhu.
  1. "Violence in Mumbai, theatres attacked in Thane, Nashik".The Tribune (India). 4 February 2008. Archived from the original on 9 April 2008. Retrieved 4 April 2008.
And as for present Govt. banning bhojpuri movies, that will be a grave mistake as Mr. Raj has already faced the wrath of a hate speech 3 days prior state elections with only 1 seat won
 
LOL.
I think you are already blowing up the racist version of Shiv Sena as all these Twitter post indicate religious racism with affinity to the religious Kashmiri Pandits which was always an agenda of the party.
please enlighten how helping the kashmiri pundits is racism.

and do let me know which race or religion those bihari or other migrants belong to.
 
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