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'Unfair' expectations
A major concern among trainees is the uniform syllabus across roles with vast salary differences. Previously, hiring exams were tailored to job positions. System engineers — who earn around Rs 20,000 per month — had simpler exams compared to specialist programmers, who earn nearly Rs 70,000 per month.
Now, system engineers must pass the same tough exams designed for high-paying specialist roles, leading many to question the fairness of the system.
 
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'Unfair' expectations
A major concern among trainees is the uniform syllabus across roles with vast salary differences. Previously, hiring exams were tailored to job positions. System engineers — who earn around Rs 20,000 per month — had simpler exams compared to specialist programmers, who earn nearly Rs 70,000 per month.
Now, system engineers must pass the same tough exams designed for high-paying specialist roles, leading many to question the fairness of the system.
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Esp. a co. judging a candidates talent and expertise merely on the basis of some trash aptitude test as if they are conducting some entrance test for admission to their pvt. crap university.
I have always been against such baseless bs tests unless the role actually requires serious analytical base but yet judgements on aptitude tests is literally a kiddish approach.

I have exhibited this live in one of my ex-cos. in the past where for a few positions the co. wasn't at all able to secure any candidature been 8+ months.
It was only when I started interviewing candidates and selected 5 within 4 weeks purely on the basis of their live technical kb and approach and not judging them by any apti and excel exams as the role doesn't requires such tests to be passed.
And my decision paid off as they were the right candidates for the job. Just imagine in these 7-8 months how many truly deserving candidates lost this opportunity?
And daily thousands and lacs of such candidates get rejected globally due to such wrongful hiring approach.

Every position requires a slightly different approach. But dumb co.s care less and end of the day hire dumbass people mostly then spend heavily to groom them/training par etc only to learn that few of them either leave or abscond and join elsewhere.
 
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'Unfair' expectations
A major concern among trainees is the uniform syllabus across roles with vast salary differences. Previously, hiring exams were tailored to job positions. System engineers — who earn around Rs 20,000 per month — had simpler exams compared to specialist programmers, who earn nearly Rs 70,000 per month.
Now, system engineers must pass the same tough exams designed for high-paying specialist roles, leading many to question the fairness of the system.
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Back in 2021 when tech job market was in frenzy, infy asked codeforces c/d level questions in online assessment for off-campus hiring process, it's high headed clown company.
 
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Back in 2021 when tech job market was in frenzy, infy asked codeforces c/d level questions in online assessment for off-campus hiring process, it's high headed clown company.
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Some famous clown headed cos. list-
TCS
Infosys
WIpro
HCL
Reliance
Persistent
Cognizant
Techmahindra
IBM
Accenture
 
Back in 2011 to 2013, my wife joined Infosys as Senior Database Analyst after showing a fake exp of 3 years and used to get 40k per month. They used to call her in the middle of the night by telling her that onsite members have called and since our night means their day right, that's why. She used to work from 9am-6pm every day then again sometimes from 2am-5am in the mornings.
My wife's team has 4 members where 3 members work hard but 1 male member does not attend regularly by saying that his paternal grand mother died & maternal grand mother died. Team Leader nor Manager cared about that guy or asked about him though they used to make other 3 work day & night for the projects to end before dead line. Infosys is a shitty company.

She got spondylitis problem just for 2 years of IT job after which she joined in Govt Job. Even now she is getting pain in her lower back and ribs. Yesterday she went to Chennai for a visit to Vijaya Hospital and the doctor told her not to drink Coffee anymore.

My sister used to work in Patni Computers from 2000 to 2010 and their salary to work hours are indeed superb.
 

Bill Gates Insists the 3-Day Work Week Is Coming—And AI Is the Key to Making It Happen!​


Bill Gates is convinced that AI will soon make the 3-day workweek a reality. He sees it as a major shift, one that could redefine productivity and free up more time for everyone. But while the idea sounds promising, the road to this future won’t be easy.

Source: https://indiandefencereview.com/bil...coming-and-ai-is-the-key-to-making-it-happen/
 
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Bill Gates Insists the 3-Day Work Week Is Coming—And AI Is the Key to Making It Happen!​


Bill Gates is convinced that AI will soon make the 3-day workweek a reality. He sees it as a major shift, one that could redefine productivity and free up more time for everyone. But while the idea sounds promising, the road to this future won’t be easy.

Source: https://indiandefencereview.com/bil...coming-and-ai-is-the-key-to-making-it-happen/
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Don't get mislead by taking such things as positive news. Tech sector is going to face big lay-offs, such statements are only preparing grounds for it.

Don't you think that No company in it's right mind would pay in full for half the work? Won't there be a more disadvantaged geography where people would be ready to take over the work at a much lower price and work longer hours?
 
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‘If I Ask A Chennai Guy To Go To Delhi And Work, He Says Bye’: L&T Boss Says Indians Are Unwilling To Move For Work

Trending News: L&T chairman SN Subrahmanyan remarked that while migration of workers is a common scenario in most parts of the world, Indians do not want to move.
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Facing labor shortage due to welfare schemes: L&T Chairman

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Says, IT engineers have reluctance to relocate, labors are not available because of govt.'s welfare schemes...!!!
If poor labor's contribution to nation building is so critical, why not pay them accordingly ?
These guys can't even pay higher amount than govt. welfare to poor people?
Should they re-learn to pay lesser bribes to infra-projects and more salary to deserving labors ?, points raised here needs more serious clarity it seems...
 
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‘If I Ask A Chennai Guy To Go To Delhi And Work, He Says Bye’: L&T Boss Says Indians Are Unwilling To Move For Work

Trending News: L&T chairman SN Subrahmanyan remarked that while migration of workers is a common scenario in most parts of the world, Indians do not want to move.
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Facing labor shortage due to welfare schemes: L&T Chairman

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Says, IT engineers have reluctance to relocate, labors are not available because of govt.'s welfare schemes...!!!
If poor labor's contribution to nation building is so critical, why not pay them accordingly ?
These guys can't even pay higher amount than govt. welfare to poor people?
Should they re-learn to pay lesser bribes to infra-projects and more salary to deserving labors ?, points raised here needs more serious clarity it seems...
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When we had Covid and lost jobs/businesses how many of us continued paying drivers and household help ? Running a company is another thing . Did the govt provide any relief to companies , middle class ? How many factories /businesses were shut down , went into NPA ?
Skilled labour is short these days and is in demand . Skilled labour get paid more than an average IT employee , have no taxes to sort out or pay auditors .
I will have to agree with the L& T CEO on this . In the past I had taken up jobs for the sake of travel , exposure and experience . These days that seems to be lacking . Rather the focus is on the pay and how much an employee can make for himself or herself .
Unfortunately , since the middle class are not the vote bank , the govt ,politicians focus on the vote bank and the welfare schemes do hurt the nation and the rest of them who have to bear with vote bank politics .
 
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Did the govt provide any relief to companies , middle class ?
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In fact, govts exploited Covid19 situation to drastically water down labor compensation and rights. Unlike decades back, collective uproars regarding labor rights are almost non-existent these days.
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I will have to agree with the L& T CEO on this . In the past I had taken up jobs for the sake of travel , exposure and experience . These days that seems to be lacking . Rather the focus is on the pay and how much an employee can make for himself or herself .
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There is nothing much to learn than bad life quality if one travel within India. People are still even fighting with their life and resources to reach developed countries for the sake of travel , exposure and experience.
Focus should be on pay and how much an employee can make for themselves, otherwise what is the point in the grind ? This is just like how corporations are for profit, making arguments in the name of nation building by paying pennies to labor class ? Let labor set their worth too, for once.
Damn sure Covid19 taught some life lessons to those poor people about value of their life and life quality.
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Unfortunately , since the middle class are not the vote bank , the govt ,politicians focus on the vote bank and the welfare schemes do hurt the nation and the rest of them who have to bear with vote bank politics .
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Everybody thinks they are middle-class, there needs to be a definition on actually who are middle class in India.
Corrupt system ignored huge population of 'labor class' people, welfare system during votes effectively is the only way to correct this.
L&T and similar companies paying enough for labors to move with their own discretion than treating them like cattle walking on streets and fell dying during Covid19 times may help.
Agree with schemes like 'ladli behen' is nonsense which should not have any place anywhere, schemes like that was purely exploited for votes by all parties. Now that voting is over, SC suddenly took note of that !
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SC warns Maharashtra to pay land dues for Ladki Bahin scheme | Pune News - Times of India

Supreme Court warns Maharashtra to provide reasonable compensation for land acquired for Ladki Bahin scheme. Maharashtra government proposes Rs 37.42 crore, landowner claims it is insufficient. Decision awaited.
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That too, regarding totally unrelated court case, how conveniently nonsensical...!
 
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Unlike decades back, collective uproars regarding labor rights are almost non-existent these days.
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Fyi, all the labour laws/rights in India currently only protects the "elite formal labour" employed in cushy govt/psu jobs which is hardly 10% of the entire labour force & it is this section which protests the most whenever any govt try to introduce some rational reform into existing labour laws.

P.S. Another fyi, It takes a board meeting chaired by the CMD of a psu to fire an entry scale employee in officer grade for insubordination/dereliction of duty. Imagine the same happening in Infosys/TCS/Accenture etc, a board meeting chaired by CMD to fire a 4lpa campus placement hired software developer.
 
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That is right.
Most pvt. infra, construction industries exploit helplessness of uneducated labor (how can they have a stable life if they are living like gypsies wandering and working for these corpns), those from the most poverty ridden and underdeveloped part of society.
 
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Most pvt. infra, construction industries exploit helplessness of uneducated labor (how can they have a stable life if they are living like gypsies wandering and working for these corpns), those from the most poverty ridden and underdeveloped part of society.
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My point was that all the labour laws currently present do not cover such uneducated labour in "informal sector" which is what constitutes the majority of the labour force & one of the main reason for them being in informal sector is because formal sector has too rigid labour laws making companies/businesses forced to hire labour via contractors/sub-contractors who in turn further outsource it eventually resulting in task being done by informal sector. Yes all those labour you see in infra projects being build under major brand names/corps are mostly working under informal sector. In fact that is also one of the main reason why many businesses in India choose to remain "small"/informal because once the no. of direct employees in any business exceed 19 the rigid labour laws kick in so they mostly use outsourced labour via contractors.
 
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Agree with you regarding organized and govt. / semi-govt unionized labor.
Was just trying to convey this L&T guy does not have a valid point where most underprivileged labor work.

btw, if one read that comment from SC, they are talking about a very weird case about acres of land acquired decades back, how dozens of crores in compensation to that erred party is not enough considering today's market value. Bringing in their comments about freebies to poor does not suit that given situation at all. Looks totally out of place and confusing. They should have made that comment where it is well placed and deserved.
 
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