71-90K New gaming PC for a golf simulator

[deepakvrao]

1. R9 7900 outperforms R7 9700X. Slightly higher single core performance is not worth considering unless 9700X is 25k or so, in which case, money saving can be a point

2. Your call. Check reviews by Gamers Nexus, Tom's Hardware, etc. Don't follow AIO market a lot as I will never buy them. Check for brands with 5 year warranty.

3. Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX still remains my choice although it is not white or silver.

4. MSI MAG A850GL White - https://www.pcstudio.in/product/msi-mag-a850gl-850-watt-pcie5-power-supply-white/ as suggested by @PunkX 75 looks great

5. Cheaper fish tank - https://mdcomputers.in/product/deepcool-cg-series-mid-tower-cabinet-r-cg580-whnda0-g-1

6. Extra fans - https://elitehubs.com/products/arctic-p12-max-120mm-cabinet-fan-white

https://www.pcstudio.in/product/arctic-p12-pwm-pst-argb-cabinet-fan-3-pack-white/

(Poor value for sure but you are paying for aesthetics at this point). Maybe consider for a traditional white case, not fish tank? I got my friend Lancool 216 white or can consider CM TD500 Mesh White.

1. R9 7000 is 5K more so likely worth it

2. Will do

3. OK. Will have to decide between 16K for black or 21K for white then

4. That is 850. Want to future proof with 1000w. Is ANTEC a BAD PSU?

5. and 6. THANKS

 

[PunkX 75]

4. That is 850. Want to future proof with 1000w. Is ANTEC a BAD PSU?

The PSU you listed isn't bad, at all. It's a tier-A unit. It's not the quality of the PSU in question here, it's spending on wattage you won't likely need, even for a 3080 Ti. I have a 750W with a 3080, and it works just fine. 1000W is unnecessary for the config you have in mind, even accounting for future upgrades (unless you will definitely be getting a 4090/5090).

 

[deepakvrao]

1. Because the 7900 has more cores/threads. Better for simulators/video editing.

2. It's fine for Aesthetics + performance. You can get it for 10k - https://computechstore.in/product/deepcool-ld360/?gQT=2

3. ASrock B650 PG Lightning. Great VRMs at a reasonable cost. Will easily handle a 7900. Only con is no onboard BT/WiFi - https://computechstore.in/product/asrock-b650-pg-lightning/

4. MSI MAG A850GL White - https://www.pcstudio.in/product/msi-mag-a850gl-850-watt-pcie5-power-supply-white/

5. Case & fans @OMEGA44-XT may be of better help.

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Thanks - will get the 7900 and the Deepcool 360

Will the Gigabyte b650 Aorus Elite a BAD unit or do you guys think it's only bad value? Then I'm willing to spend for the white aesthetics.

 

[PunkX 75]

The PSU you listed isn't bad, at all. It's a tier-A unit. It's not the quality of the PSU in question here, it's spending on wattage you won't likely need, even for a 3080 Ti. I have a 750W with a 3080, and it works just fine. 1000W is unnecessary for the config you have in mind, even accounting for future upgrades (unless you will definitely be getting a 4090/5090).

These calculators aren't exactly accurate but will give you a rough idea of how much of a waste 1000W will be.

 

[deepakvrao]

The PSU you listed isn't bad, at all. It's a tier-A unit. It's not the quality of the PSU in question here, it's spending on wattage you won't likely need, even for a 3080 Ti. I have a 750W with a 3080, and it works just fine. 1000W is unnecessary for the config you have in mind, even accounting for future upgrades (unless you will definitely be getting a 4090/5090).

In time I will likely upgrade the gpu and hence the buffer. Also why I want this cpu and system to be future proof for at least 4-5 years.

Really appreciate your help.

Is this a reliable website? PSU is much cheaper here.

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These calculators aren't exactly accurate but will give you a rough idea of how much of a waste 1000W will be.

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I had run a calculator but now realise that I had run it with the 9900x and the 9800x3d.

Edit: It still shows 900w

 

[PunkX 75]

In time I will likely upgrade the gpu and hence the buffer. Also why I want this cpu and system to be future proof for at least 4-5 years.

Really appreciate your help.

Is this a reliable website? PSU is much cheaper here.

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Yes, elitehubs is 100% legit.

 

[deepakvrao]

Newegg shows 900 watts and PCPartpicker shows 654 watts. This is nuts.

MSI is showing 900 and Bequiet is showing 814w.

In what you have shown as 543 watts, you have not added RAM, storage and cooler. Maybe thats the difference?

 

[bssunilreddy]

Thanks - will get the 7900 and the Deepcool 360

Will the Gigabyte b650 Aorus Elite a BAD unit or do you guys think it's only bad value? Then I'm willing to spend for the white aesthetics.

Asrock, Gigabyte & MSI are having good motherboards with good VRMs. Check with Hardware Unboxed videos from YT titled Best B650 boards from a list of 56 boards tested.

In time I will likely upgrade the gpu and hence the buffer. Also why I want this cpu and system to be future proof for at least 4-5 years.

Really appreciate your help.

Is this a reliable website? PSU is much cheaper here.

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I had run a calculator but now realise that I had run it with the 9900x and the 9800x3d.

Edit: It still shows 900w

Don't buy Antec PSU's man as I am telling by experience. Sometimes the on-line seller who sells you the Antec PSU is directly importing from Antec Hong Kong and selling it here where Antec India does not take responsibility in case of any RMA but tells you to ask the on-line seller instead. Now after they process the RMA they are not sending back any equivalent unit but sending an inferior unit as replacement. So go with Cooler Master, Corsair, Super Flower Leadex, Deepcool, MSI & NZXT. Check the PSU Cultist list once before going with the selection. Also don't ever go with any Gigabyte PSU's as these are sitting time-bombs.

Newegg shows 900 watts and PCPartpicker shows 654 watts. This is nuts.

MSI is showing 900 and Bequiet is showing 814w.

In what you have shown as 543 watts, you have not added RAM, storage and cooler. Maybe thats the difference?

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In Be Queit PSU Power Calculator its showing maximum wattage required is 849watts and is recommending 1000watts Gold PSU.
In MSI PSU Power Calculator its showing maximum wattage required is 967watts and is recommending 1000watts Gold PSU.
In Corsair Power Calculator its showing maximum wattage requires is 900watts and is recommending 1000watts Gold PSU.

In all above 3 calculators I added all above mentioned components along with fans that can be put in the mentioned Case.

 

[PunkX 75]

Asrock, Gigabyte & MSI are having good motherboards with good VRMs. Check with Hardware Unboxed videos from YT titled Best B650 boards from a list of 56 boards tested.

Don't buy Antec PSU's man as I am telling by experience. Sometimes the on-line seller who sells you the Antec PSU is directly importing from Antec Hong Kong and selling it here where Antec India does not take responsibility in case of any RMA but tells you to ask the on-line seller instead. Now after they process the RMA they are not sending back any equivalent unit but sending an inferior unit as replacement. So go with Cooler Master, Corsair, Super Flower Leadex, Deepcool, MSI & NZXT. Check the PSU Cultist list once before going with the selection. Also don't ever go with any Gigabyte PSU's as these are sitting time-bombs.

In Be Queit PSU Power Calculator its showing maximum wattage required is 849watts and is recommending 1000watts Gold PSU.
In MSI PSU Power Calculator its showing maximum wattage required is 967watts and is recommending 1000watts Gold PSU.
In Corsair Power Calculator its showing maximum wattage requires is 900watts and is recommending 1000watts Gold PSU.

In all above 3 calculators I added all above mentioned components along with fans that can be put in the mentioned Case.

I will have to disagree with the requirement. There is ZERO chance a 1000w will be required for running the above configuration. These calculators always add more than what actually is required (most of them). Even given the benefit of doubt, remember, that these figures show SUSTAINED and CONSTANT load from the wall, with everything running at 100% at full power at the same time, which is a very unrealistic scenario, for the most part. OP, there are several videos that you can refer to regarding actual PSU requirements under similar conditions. The rest is your call

Newegg shows 900 watts and PCPartpicker shows 654 watts. This is nuts.

MSI is showing 900 and Bequiet is showing 814w.

In what you have shown as 543 watts, you have not added RAM, storage and cooler. Maybe thats the difference?

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RAM, storage, and cooler will never add even 100w, let alone 300w extra. As I said, these calculators are known to overdo wattage by a gross margin at times, to push advertisements of their higher wattage, higher priced units.

For context, I have:

1. Run an FX 8350 + GTX 580 with a 400W unit for years, with no issues
2. Run an i7 2600K + R9290 with a 450W unit, with zero issues

I don't obviously recommend the aforementioned scenarios as a guideline, but it'll give you a clearer picture.

 

[OMEGA44-XT]

1. R9 7000 is 5K more so likely worth it

2. Will do

3. OK. Will have to decide between 16K for black or 21K for white then

4. That is 850. Want to future proof with 1000w. Is ANTEC a BAD PSU?

5. and 6. THANKS

Thanks - will get the 7900 and the Deepcool 360

Will the Gigabyte b650 Aorus Elite a BAD unit or do you guys think it's only bad value? Then I'm willing to spend for the white aesthetics.

Will you buy a 5080 or 5090 like GPU that is power hungry? If yes, can invest in 1000W PSU. My 750W PSU can handle my 295W GPU easily. The power draw from wall of my i5 12400 + 7900GRE (OC) is like 450-500W while gaming (i have a tool to measure it at the plug point), so I still have a good headroom for an even more powerful GPU & CPU. 850W PSU is overkill for most gamers, 750W is what I generally recommend.

MSI calculator shows 735W for my rig. They are just propping up the numbers to make more money.

That white Aorus mobo is just a bad value, that's all. Prioritizing aesthetics does mean taking a hit on the value. Considering the parts you are considering, I won't be surprised if I can fit in a 7950X / 9800X3D easily instead for the same budget & I will pick that over aesthetics.

 

[bssunilreddy]

Will you buy a 5080 or 5090 like GPU that is power hungry? If yes, can invest in 1000W PSU. My 750W PSU can handle my 295W GPU easily. The power draw from wall of my i5 12400 + 7900GRE (OC) is like 450-500W while gaming (i have a tool to measure it at the plug point), so I still have a good headroom for an even more powerful GPU & CPU. 850W PSU is overkill for most gamers, 750W is what I generally recommend.

MSI calculator shows 735W for my rig. They are just propping up the numbers to make more money.

That white Aorus mobo is just a bad value, that's all. Prioritizing aesthetics does mean taking a hit on the value. Considering the parts you are considering, I won't be surprised if I can fit in a 7950X / 9800X3D easily instead for the same budget & I will pick that over aesthetics.

Well said. Prioritizing aesthetics over quality or value means OPs parts might turn up kaput in a matter of years. I also think 750w is enough for 3080Ti or if OP wants headroom then 850w. Not more than this is required because as you said if OP is trying to run 5080 or 5090 then he might need 1000w PSU. No to buying any Gigabyte PSU's. They are ticking time bombs.

 

[deepakvrao]

Well said. Prioritizing aesthetics over quality or value means OPs parts might turn up kaput in a matter of years. I also think 750w is enough for 3080Ti or if OP wants headroom then 850w. Not more than this is required because as you said if OP is trying to run 5080 or 5090 then he might need 1000w PSU. No to buying any Gigabyte PSU's. They are ticking time bombs.

I am willing to spend more for aesthetics with quality, which means a good quality but bad value component. Not aesthetics over quality. So I want buy a bad MB just because it looks good. Hence the repeated question as to whether the Gigabyte Aorus ICE bord is a bad board or only a bad value?

 

[OMEGA44-XT]

Well said. Prioritizing aesthetics over quality or value means OPs parts might turn up kaput in a matter of years. I also think 750w is enough for 3080Ti or if OP wants headroom then 850w. Not more than this is required because as you said if OP is trying to run 5080 or 5090 then he might need 1000w PSU. No to buying any Gigabyte PSU's. They are ticking time bombs.

By kaput if you mean it might develop issues, then likely no if OP chooses good quality ones.

I am willing to spend more for aesthetics with quality, which means a good quality but bad value component. Not aesthetics over quality. So I want buy a bad MB just because it looks good. Hence the repeated question as to whether the Gigabyte Aorus ICE bord is a bad board or only a bad value?

Hardware Unboxed has a B650 mobo test video. It may or may not have that particular model, but Aorus mobos are generally good, just overpriced.

 

[deepakvrao]

By kaput if you mean it might develop issues, then likely no if OP chooses good quality ones.


Hardware Unboxed has a B650 mobo test video. It may or may not have that particular model, but Aorus mobos are generally good, just overpriced.

Checked the PSU Tier and the Antek is Tier A. Took a while to get the updated list. And keeping in mind future upgrades I'll likely go with it.

So

7900x
b650 Elite Aorus Ice
Antek C8 argb
Antek 1000w white PSU
Deepcool LD 360

Really appreciate all the help guys. You guys spent a lot of time helping out an old duffer. WIll come back when I have more issues if I do though.

Thanks @OMEGA44-XT @PunkX 75 @bssunilreddy

 

[PunkX 75]

Checked the PSU Tier and the Antek is Tier A. Took a while to get the updated list. And keeping in mind future upgrades I'll likely go with it.

So

7900x
b650 Elite Aorus Ice
Antek C8 argb
Antek 1000w white PSU
Deepcool LD 360

Really appreciate all the help guys. You guys spent a lot of time helping out an old duffer. WIll come back when I have more issues if I do though.

Thanks @OMEGA44-XT @PunkX 75 @bssunilreddy

Use this updated list for PSU guides in the future - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...RB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1719706335#gid=1719706335

 

[deepakvrao]

Use this updated list for PSU guides in the future - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...RB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1719706335#gid=1719706335

Thanks. Finally planning ddr5 6000mhx cl30. Any advantage in getting faster ram?

 

[bssunilreddy]

Thanks. Finally planning ddr5 6000mhx cl30. Any advantage in getting faster ram?

The main advantage of getting faster DDR5 RAM is significantly increased data transfer speeds, resulting in better performance for memory-intensive tasks like gaming, video editing, 3D rendering, and multitasking, allowing you to process large amounts of data quicker, leading to smoother and faster overall system operation compared to slower DDR4 RAM; this is particularly beneficial for users with high-end CPUs that can fully utilize the increased bandwidth of DDR5.

 

[PunkX 75]

Thanks. Finally planning ddr5 6000mhx cl30. Any advantage in getting faster ram?

6000 MT/s CL30 is the sweet spot for AMD systems. Faster won't make much of a difference. You'll have to sacrifice on timings, which isn't worth the trade-off.