Problem with a PS3 purchased from Imtiaz786

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Just saw all these notifications. Will go through and reply as soon as possible.

From the quick read-through, I'm completely okay shipping the PS3 back to him. Had offered Imtiaz that as an option amongst all, but he was unwilling.

Will read through the thread properly and post here.

@imtiaz786 please hold off on shipping anything. I want to resolve this quickly as well, but let's not do anything in haste that'll just add to the issue.

Getting back to you asap. Will be in meetings the whole day, so might only be able to respond in the night.
 
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@imtiaz786, I'm ready to ship your console back. I find that to be the best solution since you are not agreeing to the real price your console should fetch. We're not here to unfairly 'profit' from our sales.
Approximate calculation for price difference:
1. Cost of an absolutely mint/close to mint PS3 with Dual Shock 3 controller and all accessories (out of warranty and without ODE): Rs. 11,000 - 13,000
2. Appropriate cost of your PS3, excluding the Cobra ODE: Rs. 8,000 - 9,000
3. Cost of the Cobra ODE with half warranty gone: ~Rs. 3,000

Again, I've admitted where I fell short on this deal, so please do not bring that up again.

I'll send you my account details so you can return my money and I'll send you back the console. I'll ensure that I pack it well and will take photographs of the PS3, packing etc. and share with you when shipping.

Once the console is shipped, I'll send you a scan/photo of the receipt of the shipping charges (something I had requested from you, but never received). We can then split the cost.

Once you have the PS3, you can perhaps re-open your sales thread (I'm hoping with an appropriate price tag).

I apologise from my end for complicating your sale.

Thanks @m-jeri @Crazy_Eddy @rakesh_ic for helping us reach a resolution. I've learned a lesson here, and I sincerely hope @imtiaz786 has too.

Regards,
Prakhar
 
Imtiaz786 was banned from different forum for same mistake like this making again and again...
I would advice OP to send the console back and get the money full refund first before shipping as he has bad habit for making half payment first ...
And also leave appreciate feedback so future buyer can know the outcome...
 
Imtiaz786 was banned from different forum for same mistake like this making again and again...
I would advice OP to send the console back and get the money full refund first before shipping as he has bad habit for making half payment first ...
And also leave appreciate feedback so future buyer can know the outcome...
No need for your advice as mods are there and if buyer wants than i can refund him and please stay out of it as we dont need you suggestion as you are also a black listed guy and you dont respect mods where as i respect mods and i will do whatever they say.....And if i had any ill intention than i would have used different name and ip address so please stay out of it and look at here first.....https://www.techenclave.com/communi...ease-check-before-dealing.56990/#post-1932374[DOUBLEPOST=1411473775][/DOUBLEPOST]Ok i will refund 16k to you and there are two condition since i am refunding you should change the feedback and as i wont sell it anymore so wont open sale thread.... and you have to pay for return shipping as i am refunding and most importantly ps3 should be in OFW 4.55 because if you have updated it than i wont accept return since update 4.60 requires Swap Disc method which is irritating....
 
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If you have good intention then you have not lied in first place about console condition..
And you also create dupe account on erodov claiming to be imtiaz brother so don't say you have good intention..
I refunded all member in 2 hour by imps and also didn't ask for any return...
Just stop writing useless post as op clearly has mention that he want refund...
 
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If you have good intention then you have not lied in first place about console condition..
And you also create dupe account on erodov claiming to be imtiaz brother so don't say you have good intention..
I refunded all member in 2 hour by imps and also didn't ask for any return...
Just stop writing useless post as op clearly has mention that he want refund...
Bro if you want you can ask invader as i have asked his permission before making the account......ok...
And its by mistake i wrote 5/5 because its was working nicely and i thought the working condition was awesome which still is now....not like you selling fake stuffs as my ps3 and everything is original....where as you knew you stuff was not worth Rs.100 so intead of paying return shipping you opted for no return where as my deal is 16k and for me 16k is not much since you know me i paid you Rs.4000 without asking you to make a sale thread for that TX 750 SMPS which i bought from you remember you gave me your Axix Bank Account No....And i paid you in a flash as you were to ship the psu immediately but you shipped it after 2 days......And what you think about yourself......i see you always putting Ghee on fire and create negative enviroment where as you should give good suggestion to juniors.....You dont respect mods so what should one expect from you.......Khud doosra ko cheat karte ho aur bhaashan dene chale Apni sakal aaina per dekh uske baad batao.....

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And haa ask invader that the account which i made in Erodov he knew or not???.......And for you kind information TECH ENCLAVE is waay better than Erodov and there is heaven and hell difference......And scamsters and frauds are more in Erodov and they banned me not because i cheated anyone they banned me because i was cheated(And mods here in Tech Enclave if you want proof i can give you if you want for that my recent account in Erodov is banned because of what i said)
And mods please tell him(@manucitc) not to post his useless suggestions.......As i am doing what you have suggested so please tell him to stay out of it......
 
@manucitc

Appreciate your inputs but please refrain from posting in this thread. I hope you can understand this thread is just for the dispute between @prakhargr8 & @imtiaz786

@imtiaz786

The buyer is not responsible for this debacle. You are. You posted the wrong information and got paid. And how is that now he needs to pay for complete shipping return back?
Is that decent? Would you have done that? Please avoid more issues and do a equal 50~50 split of the shipping and return the buyers money.

Do not give more reasons regarding how you feel about that. I am yet to see one iota of consideration of your part to the buyer, who paid you his 17000INR for your used electronic item.
 
@manucitc

Appreciate your inputs but please refrain from posting in this thread. I hope you can understand this thread is just for the dispute between @prakhargr8 & @imtiaz786

@imtiaz786

The buyer is not responsible for this debacle. You are. You posted the wrong information and got paid. And how is that now he needs to pay for complete shipping return back?
Is that decent? Would you have done that? Please avoid more issues and do a equal 50~50 split of the shipping and return the buyers money.

Do not give more reasons regarding how you feel about that. I am yet to see one iota of consideration of your part to the buyer, who paid you his 17000INR for your used electronic item.
Ok sir if you say than i will pay 16k + 50/50 on shipping
And sir i need to know if the ps3 is on 4.55 or not because if its on 4.55 i will refund or else i wont as i gave him in 4.55 and above that firmware needs swap disc and to use it i dont have bluray burner and ps3 will be a paper weight for me so its a request to the buyer to make a video and show me that my ps3 is power on and is still on ofw 4.55 because i want to be sure and if he has updated it than sorry i wont refund....and topic ends here....
 
No need for your advice as mods are there and if buyer wants than i can refund him and please stay out of it as we dont need you suggestion as you are also a black listed guy and you dont respect mods where as i respect mods and i will do whatever they say.....And if i had any ill intention than i would have used different name and ip address so please stay out of it and look at here first.....https://www.techenclave.com/communi...ease-check-before-dealing.56990/#post-1932374[DOUBLEPOST=1411473775][/DOUBLEPOST]Ok i will refund 16k to you and there are two condition since i am refunding you should change the feedback and as i wont sell it anymore so wont open sale thread.... and you have to pay for return shipping as i am refunding and most importantly ps3 should be in OFW 4.55 because if you have updated it than i wont accept return since update 4.60 requires Swap Disc method which is irritating....

Imtiaz, I cannot believe you're still trying to cheat me. I paid for the shipping when you sent the PS3, and you never showed me the receipt.

You're telling me that you lose Rs. 500 and I lose Rs. 1500 on this deal? Dude, please have some courtesy and send me back my 17k.
Sending back shipping charges, I'll split with you 50-50.

Also, please refrain from sending me childish messages on WhatsApp. "Do you behaving like a kid since 16k is not a big deal for me."?
I've asked you multiple times to keep all conversation here on the thread, so please do not message me anywhere other than TE.

Anyway, don't worry about your PS3. I've not updated it and will send you a video and as many photographs as you want. I've barely even switched it on - only to make sure it was functional after I saw the condition.

I'll inbox you my account details. Once I have the entire amount, I'll ship it.

Prakhar
 
@imtiaz786

You need to refund the 17k + 50% of the shipping costs at actuals once @prakhargr8 has posted the videos and photos of the ps3 firmware version in this thread itself. If required he can send to you however also. There should not be anymore arguments or discussions about this.

And why are you saying that you will only refund 16k instead of 17k to the buyer?. He paid you 17000INR. you pay him that amount. If you are the stand up guy you claim to be avoid giving the buyer more headache. Return his money and end this ordeal amicably.
 
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@imtiaz786

You need to refund the 17k + 50% of the shipping costs at actuals once @prakhargr8 has posted the videos and photos of the ps3 firmware version in this thread itself. If required he can send to you however also. There should not be anymore arguments or discussions about this.

And why are you saying that you will only refund 16k instead of 17k to the buyer?. He paid you 17000INR. you pay him that amount. If you are the stand up guy you claim to be avoid giving the buyer more headache. Return his money and end this ordeal amicably.
Sir i sold it for 16k and 1k for shipping......And sorry i cant pay everything as he paid me 16k for the console so i will pay 16k thats is because i know it was my fault to mention 5/5 but he should also have asked for pics which he didnt so dont put everything on me......
And what do you mean by this "If required he can send to you however also""
 
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Imtiaz, I cannot believe you're still trying to cheat me. I paid for the shipping when you sent the PS3, and you never showed me the receipt.

You're telling me that you lose Rs. 500 and I lose Rs. 1500 on this deal? Dude, please have some courtesy and send me back my 17k.
Sending back shipping charges, I'll split with you 50-50.

Also, please refrain from sending me childish messages on WhatsApp. "Do you behaving like a kid since 16k is not a big deal for me."?
I've asked you multiple times to keep all conversation here on the thread, so please do not message me anywhere other than TE.

Anyway, don't worry about your PS3. I've not updated it and will send you a video and as many photographs as you want. I've barely even switched it on - only to make sure it was functional after I saw the condition.

I'll inbox you my account details. Once I have the entire amount, I'll ship it.

Prakhar
You paid me 16k for the console and you will get 16k why i will pay the shipping and i sold you something and you didnt like it and want a refund so you have to bear one way shipping and i will pay shipping only for one way and you have to pay one way thats it as @m-jeri said it was my fault as well as your fault so you also have to pay one way shipping as i have given you a fair deal....And most importantly you have to remove the feedback as i am refunding you as no deal no feedback and that you have to promise....As you told me that you will remove it if i accept your condition....

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Just now got a very very awesome offer from a local buyer that he will buy my ps3 so i am more than happy to refund as he called me through olx just now and ready to pay very very good price for it ......Thanks mods its better to refund........so i want to be 10000% sure that he has not updated it or else cobra mod will be of no use.....So play show the cobra browser after turning on the ps3 in your video......
 
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@imtiaz786

So the buyer paid you 16000INR for the PS3 and 1000INR for the shipping from you to him. Now he is shipping the item back to you due to the item being in nowhere near the awesome 5/5 condition you claimed.
And you wont pay the buyer his FULL 17000INR he paid you for the item?? What sort of logic is that?

Who gave false information of the item? You or the buyer? Who has been duped and given headache? You or the buyer? This is NOT some scrap market where you are out to make money. Here average joe's spend
their own hard earned money/parents money to buy used electronic stuff. Show the buyer some courtesy. If you see yourself taking a loss, its not due to the buyer. Its due to you only.

if anyone who is reading this post thinks otherwise please post here.

@imtiaz786

I kindly request you to see the reason and pay the buyer his 17000INR . The amount he paid you in good trust. And split the return shipping to you in 50~50 at actual. Pay him the money and he will ship the item as soon as he received the money. Just as you did for him. Don't say you don't trust him now or anything. Thats how the procedure works. This is not a business where you get to make money. As you said, you already got a buyer. Then let this one go happily.

@prakhargr8

you are requested to post the necessary videos and pictures as soon as you can to expedite this process and send him the account details.
 
@imtiaz786

So the buyer paid you 16000INR for the PS3 and 1000INR for the shipping from you to him. Now he is shipping the item back to you due to the item being in nowhere near the awesome 5/5 condition you claimed.
And you wont pay the buyer his FULL 17000INR he paid you for the item?? What sort of logic is that?

Who gave false information of the item? You or the buyer? Who has been duped and given headache? You or the buyer? This is NOT some scrap market where you are out to make money. Here average joe's spend
their own hard earned money/parents money to buy used electronic stuff. Show the buyer some courtesy. If you see yourself taking a loss, its not due to the buyer. Its due to you only.

if anyone who is reading this post thinks otherwise please post here.

@imtiaz786

I kindly request you to see the reason and pay the buyer his 17000INR . The amount he paid you in good trust. And split the return shipping to you in 50~50 at actual. Pay him the money and he will ship the item as soon as he received the money. Just as you did for him. Don't say you don't trust him now or anything. Thats how the procedure works. This is not a business where you get to make money. As you said, you already got a buyer. Then let this one go happily.

@prakhargr8

you are requested to post the necessary videos and pictures as soon as you can to expedite this process and send him the account details.
Sir can i say one thing??? They way you explain the situation so nicely that i am bound to do as you said whats true......Hats off to you and listen guys this the way to treat members and do the this voluntary job of moderator and Sir @m-jeri i am/has become a fan of you why you know?? Because you explained the situation so nicely than i am now feeling embarrassed because it was my fault but sir please believe me as it was working nicely so i gave 5/5 not thinking about the condition as overall........
And for explaining the situation so nicely i salute you....
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And for you i will be paying the buyer the return shipping as well.....that makes it 18k ok...........
 
@imtiaz786

I don't think being sarcastic is the best thing for you to do now. Perhaps another time you can engage in that. You need to arrive at a solution to the buyer. Its very simple.

No one else is finding any of your logic as rational. Your only issue now is you are taking a loss because of the mess you created. You are trying to deflect that. Its kinda obvious.

I request again, to be what you always say in the forums. As you are a very honest member who respects others. Respect the buyer here then.
 
@imtiaz786

I don't think being sarcastic is the best thing for you to do now. Perhaps another time you can engage in that. You need to arrive at a solution to the buyer. Its very simple.

No one else is finding any of your logic as rational. Your only issue now is you are taking a loss because of the mess you created. You are trying to deflect that. Its kinda obvious.

I request again, to be what you always say in the forums. As you are a very honest member who respects others. Respect the buyer here then.
That is why i saying that you handled the situation so well and i felt just because of you and now no need i will pay everything ok tell him no need for his 50/50 return shipping i will pay everything and bro what loss you are taking about as i am ready to bear it but just need the confirmation from him that it is not updated above 4.55 thats it and i promise i wont repeat it....[DOUBLEPOST=1411487694][/DOUBLEPOST]
@m-jeri imtiaz is asking OP to remove the negative feedback. Is that within the rules?
Bro i have accepted my fault and now i am paying him for everything so i think its upto the buyer and i am just requesting.......
 
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I request you not to post anything on this thread before a settlement is reached and a follow up actions are made for that. Otherwise this thread keeps spiraling off topic.
Please avoid that. The staff, there are far more capable people than me - people that add value :D, will take the decision one step at a time. I am sure they want this issue to be solved amicably to both.

@imtiaz786

I am holding on to your word on that. You need to pay 17000 INR with 50% of the return shipping at actual. You are not required to transfer him not even an extra rupee that he is not entitled to.

@prakhargr8

Please post the necessary screen shots and videos here as soon as you can. Once that is done PM him your account details.
 
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