Reliance Jio Rollout

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Here's my review of the phone and the network

Background :
I have changed upto 5 ISPs in last 8 years and had a pathetic experiance with each one of them. I work in online marketing and having a reliable internet connection is a must for my work, apart from that I am a regular consumer of entertainment. I don't even remember when I last enjoyed a great game of uncharted 2 and left 4 dead multiplayer. I didn't even got a chance to try GTA V multiplayer and streaming services were a dream.

Since many years I have been eyeing on reliance jio for its extraordinary promises and have very high expectations. But ever so extending deadline was making me very sad and frustated. until recently when I got to know about its closed public beta. I am very very greatful for Vaibhav for giving me this oppurtunity to be able to get to this network early on and relieving from my worries and frustation in past. :)

Buying Experiance :
As soon as I got invite in my email, I prepared the documents and got ready for getting the SIM card. I went to reliance digital express nearby my home and asked about the phone and sim. They confiremed that the Sim is available and were more than happy to sell the same to me.
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There was slight problem with their network which was preventing them to registering the phone/sim. so they just processed the bill offline and asked me to come in the evening to collect the sim, I was probebly the first customer to get the Jio SIM from them as the store manager was constantly in touch with his superiors for directions. He took CAF and Docs and promised me to give the SIM by evening.

I took the LYF phone and left with goodbye.
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By evening he got the SIM and completed the registering process, he told me the sim will take upto 5 days to activate so to be patient.

Activation Process :
I was very paranoid for this period of 3 days and was constantly wondering if its ever gonna activate or not. I was not getting any network and didn't received any SMS from Jio telling about televerification. thankfully after 3 days I received an SMS and called 1977 to complete the televerification.

After enabling the data I was redirected to some login page. I registered to my jio app as told by vaibhav and was able to access recharges from there. I activated EMP MiFi 25 GB Plan from there and in no time I was online.

The Network :
Initially the sppeds I got were very low (by jio standards) and the reason was poor coverage at my home.
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to completly check the connection I went to rooftop and the speeds were quiet satisfactory
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Sometimes during odd times the speeds drop to 0.5 Mbps levels for 1-2 hours, my assumption tells that this might be due to incompetent LYF phone (more on that later) but I had LTE with WiFi hotspot 24x7 so this could be due to that. I have decided to use jio as my primary internet and to achive maximum efficiency I kept the phone at roof with wifi hotspot and my asus repeater in the 1st floor to broadcast the wifi to all my devices. this way I get 16 mbps consistently throughout my home. The coverage outside is excellent too and never had <-101dBm around the city.

The battery consumption in the phone was more than the rate of charging thats why we had to give some charging breaks despite being connected to 10W wall charger all the time. we used to keep the phone over ICE to have thermals in check :P
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I also tried the SIM on my friend's phone which worked great for DATA but no VoLTE, Also since then I have now got Huawei E5573s-606 MiFi hotspot and using the SIM on the MiFi device now. which is working great, although the signal is less than that of phone but quiet satisfied with the device until my repeater arrives.

While download speeds are decent, upload speeds are inversely proportional to the quality of download. this could be due to TDD LTE. As latency is good I didn't had any problem in gaming, but uploading videos and photos are like before If reliance is listioning please improve the upload this is the weakest point in the network.

Calling :
VoLTE is excellent for calling and almost as par with Skype in terms of calling. defenitely huge improvement from GSM calling. I had loved CDMA quality before but now this is the best. I haven't tried calling much but there were no drops even in low coverage area (in my home)

Other Issues :
I had received several calls from reliance employees asking for feedback and also they were wondering if everything's alright citing my unusual usage. In excitement I had used >100 GB data in last few days :P

I had explained the situation and they were ok with it and told me to contact them in case of any issues.
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Experiance with Jio Apps:

JioPlay - This is the primary app I now use for watching television while out. I couldn't belive that the streaming is live and the HD quality is excellent there were few bugs here and there and the only bottleneck was the incompetent device I was using. There was no lag in streaming or changing channels.

JioBeats - I was using saavan for music streaming earlier and not satisfied with the library of jiobeats, but the ability to download songs/playlist without premium account comes handy. as I am already paying for saavan I decied to skip this.

JioMoney - Have used it for a online transaction and p2p transaction and it was an Ok wallet app, nothing fancy to talk about, but there were no bugs while transactions.

JioOndemand - I am trying to use the service on ipad/pc but not working. anyone who is able to use please guide me. I didn't liked the quality here but the library is decent and streaming is uninterrupted.

JioDrive - haven't used as I am already loaded with skydrive and dropbox. mainly use cloud drives for sharing photos and backing up important data. I might use JioDrive in future to mirror one of my important data folder. but the upload speeds are pathatic.

haven't tried JioXpressnews or JioMags yet so can't comment on them

Handset :
Lastly the Handset LYF Flame 1, is patheticly incompetent
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It has been downgrade for me from redmi 1s! if it wasn't for the SIM I wouldn't have touched the phone even if I got for free.

The Screen is shit, the battery life is shit and lags like hell. Both slots support 4G though so that's a plus. Also the gloss back plate is very nice I got a silicon cover free with it for which I ain't complaining. It would be upgrade from only feature phone and at its price range there are many good options. But very few support VoLTE and 4G.

I like the camera though.

Thank You :)
 
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1)I am already using it with my iphone, so no, you wont be stuck with the LYF phone.

2) Damn, I couldve saved 800 bucks. That one comes with a low end mediatek proccy, MT6735M, and yet supports full LTE with VoLTE on both sims. Thats impressive, as thats probably the first phone with MT6735 I have encountered with VoLTE support.
 
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1)I am already using it with my iphone, so no, you wont be stuck with the LYF phone.
What I meant is if the phone is so shit that it @max_demon would take it for free, wouldn't one be stuck with the phone. Obviously one can think of this as a 1800 a month 100GB plan.

Btw, is everyone on the 25GB EMP Plan? @max_demon I assumed you recharged at least 5 times for that 100GB usage? I see the VoLTE doesn't work for you but does for @ruiner21 . That is strange.
 
After commercial launch, you wont have to buy the handset.

When did he say VoLTE doesnt work for him?? :/

Edit : Ok, checked the post again, about his friends phone.

VoLTE doesnt work for me on other android phone too, dont have many handsets to test this out, but my other android works fine with data and no calls.

Whereas, the iphone 6 works absolutely fantastic with Jio, including calls (after the carrier update).
 
I love the concept of testing the product at customers expense. Guinea pigs who pay up for that. Its a win-win (obviously, otherwise no one will fall for this). They get their testers while their partners move their mobile phones (which is unlikely to sell even 100 units otherwise) in this competitive market, the users get 100GB of download data.

PS:: No offense meant to anyone but thats my observation
 
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I love the concept of testing the product at customers expense. Guinea pigs who pay up for that. Its a win-win (obviously, otherwise no one will fall for this). They get their testers while their partners move their mobile phones (which is unlikely to sell even 100 units otherwise) in this competitive market, the users get 100GB of download data.

PS:: No offense meant to anyone but thats my observation
Thats the price for desperation ....
I would have paid the same if I had no better options. I remember a few years back BSNL came up with a 6months UL 3G offer for Rs4200/- And that time carrier unlocked 3G dongles were selling like hot cakes on TE. I had one hanging out of my living room window 24/7 connected to a 10" ASUS notebook being used as my download rig at that time. And I downloaded like crazy.

JIO's testing strategy is bit odd to me. Just hope they pull it well and there is a strong player in the market. Having to buy the handset for the SIM is reasonable for someone who can use that much download.
If I am not mistaken this is kind of UL downloads with no FUP?? If that is the case then its only till the news gets out in the market. Youngsters will flock to buy this then.
 
If I am not mistaken this is kind of UL downloads with no FUP?? If that is the case then its only till the news gets out in the market. Youngsters will flock to buy this then.
In the current age, I am thinking how many of us really need the 1800 pm deal of UL 100 GB. We all have a decent ISP at home (note that Jio is only available in urban circles for now - so dont give me gyan on what happens at rural regions).
We are buying just because we are finding the deal lucrative. Now how many of us will keep that second sim active after the deal on a lyf phone (people with iPhone doesnt have an extra sim tray)?
Some of us bought here might be genuinely keeping that sim, but what about the rest?
 
In the current age, I am thinking how many of us really need the 1800 pm deal of UL 100 GB. We all have a decent ISP at home (note that Jio is only available in urban circles for now - so dont give me gyan on what happens at rural regions).
We are buying just because we are finding the deal lucrative. Now how many of us will keep that second sim active after the deal on a lyf phone (people with iPhone doesnt have an extra sim tray)?
Some of us bought here might be genuinely keeping that sim, but what about the rest?
I share your skepticism on people buying lyf phones for the sim but...

Not all of us have decent ISP due to availability, politics and other things. Airtel has been rolling out FTTH 3kms from my house for a year but doesn't care about me demanding FTTH for a year now. They are ready to give freebies but pull it any time. ACT cannot come in cause my building has Hathway. The Hathway guy says he cannot give Hathway BB because its too costly, so he provides Yashtel on plans which make even Airtel shine.
This is at least better than a colleague who pays nearly the same for half the speed and lesser data.

Additionally, if the reason to buy the sim is data, everyone would buy a mifi device rather than think of using it for calling. So my guess is most people will keep the sim, depending on the data packages Jio has.

But the activation process in Jio is so bad that IMO they might not even meet their 3 month testing goal and launch by Oct. They might even push for December, extending/discounting the network charges to the customers acting as guinea pigs.[DOUBLEPOST=1463127423][/DOUBLEPOST]
Whereas, the iphone 6 works absolutely fantastic with Jio, including calls (after the carrier update).
Just to clarify, you are on the 25GB emp plan and tried to use the sim with iphone 6 but that dint work until, Jio pushed an update to your phone?
 
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No, I absolutely understand if people are buying the sim because they need the sim and not just for use and throw. Which is what we need to do.

But if its for data, then I think adding an additional 1800 to your existing bill for a month can give you the same data benefits (I am being very generic here) as what you are buying Jio for. Besides, what if Jio doesnt work as you want it to be is a question that you cant even get an answer from the CC as its experimental and the roll out is yet to happen.

This is the sole reason I am kinda appreciative about their approach. Sell the mobile/sim with heavy data plan thats still in experimental phase. No one can question this since they dint make any promises :)
 
But the activation process in Jio is so bad that IMO they might not even meet their 3 month testing goal and launch by Oct. They might even push for December, extending/discounting the network charges to the customers acting as guinea pigs.[DOUBLEPOST=1463127423][/DOUBLEPOST]
Just to clarify, you are on the 25GB emp plan and tried to use the sim with iphone 6 but that dint work until, Jio pushed an update to your phone?

The activation process was largely automatic for us. We were asked to create an order on the portal. That had all the details one would fill in CAF. after order we had to go to the Jio center with the order number and ID proofs. they would just punch in the order and take a print out of the CAF form with all the details. Take photo of CAF, ID proofs and upload to system. Some of us got SIM activation msg as soon as we left the Center! I think they will have the same systems at their dedicated Jio centers.
 
Does the Huawei MIFI support Band 5 , RCOM upcoming 4g
Planning to buy a MIFI but with all 3 bands of LTE

the model which I have does not support band 5, but instead Huawei E5573s-320 supports it. (the Airtel MiFi device is E5573s-606 supporting band 7, 1, 3, 28, 40 )
ModelSupported Bands
Huawei E5573s-320- FDD Band 1/3/5/7/8/20 (800/850/1800/2100/2600MHz)

- WCDMA Band 850/900/2100MHz
Huawei E5573s-856- TDD Band 40/41

- FDD Band 1/3

- WCDMA Band 1/8
Huawei E5573s-852- TDD LTE Band 38/39/40/41

- FDD LTE Band 3/7

- TD-SCDMA B34/39
Huawei E5573s-606- LTE-FDD 2600(7)/2100(1)/1800(B3)/700(B28)MHZ

- LTE-TDD Band 40 (2300MHz)

- DC-HSPA+/HSPA+/HSPA/UMTS 2100/900/850 MHz
Huawei E5573s-607- FDD Band 5 (850MHz) & TDD Band 40 (2300MHz)
Huawei E5573s-156- LTE-FDD 1800(3)/2600(B7)/800(B20)MHZ

- LTE-TDD Band 38 (2600MHz)

- DC-HSPA+/HSPA+/HSPA/UMTS 2100/900/850 MHz
Huawei E5573s-508- LTE-FDD 1700(4)/2600(B7)/700(B13)MHZ
 
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@rakesh_ic Not everybody has access to good internet services. Here in Nagpur, internet services are very very poor.

@sharktale1212 Yes I got a carrier update and then calls worked fine after a reboot. Before that, I wasnt able to make calls from the iphone. Dont know why I didnt get the carrier update when I first used the sim in the iphone.
 
Btw, is everyone on the 25GB EMP Plan? @max_demon I assumed you recharged at least 5 times for that 100GB usage? I see the VoLTE doesn't work for you but does for @ruiner21 . That is strange.
I checked the lenovo K3 Note supports band 40 but no VoLTE perhaps thats the reason why it didn't worked on my friend's cell phone. and yes I put EMP 25GB plan in queue to get 100GB. there is no actual limit on how many times I can recharge though. it just keeps on working on high speed data. there's no FUP. for the 4G we can use.


They get their testers while their partners move their mobile phones (which is unlikely to sell even 100 units otherwise) in this competitive market, the users get 100GB of download data.
yes I see as 1800 pm unlimited 4G plan. which is actually quiet VFM and reasonable, I had been paying 2.1k pm for just 1/2mbps UL connection earlier. the coverage is decent for 4G too.