Problem is, we are buying water from tankers and these water tanker operators fill the tank from anywhere - any dirty lake or anywhere they don't have to pay money to steal water from. So there's mud in the water. I've even put a sediment filter at inlet of my flat but even that doesn't filter out the fine mud coming from the overhead tank. Unless the society cleans both overhead and underground tanks of mud, we will always get mud in water. By now there's probably a foot of mud in the society tanks along with frogs and other water organisms.
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River water contains silt, but that does not make it bad. If you don't want silt then you need a 40 micron filter installed where the water enters the house. You will need to change those filters on a regular basis.
Yep
Think I posted a video about this some time ago with raw river water. Half an hour later all the mud had settled. It really works. Though I think its overkill for municipal or even tanker water
Dosage better be right or he is going to end up bleaching all his clothes. Stick to vanish, per bucket. Safer and less hassle.
NO ABSOLUTELY Do NOT do this. You will be making your tank water salty (in the sense of adding sodium chloride) for no good reason and that will corrode anything metallic it comes in contact with
Your dishwasher has a water softener built in that works by ion exchange and adding salt is to recharge it. That is the purpose of the salt. The bigger version is the Kent water softener.
There are chemicals that can reduce the hardness. I was experimenting with it and the hardness test was coming up blank. As in no hardness. This was from that Calgon patent from 1933
Why are you fixated on hard water? that is not the cause of the smell. Bacteria is the cause.
Has to be 40 microns. The 150-micron cheap ones you find everywhere won't catch anything. They are for farms I think.
Write to your landlord and ask him to bring it up at the next association meeting
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I think those filters will greatly reduce water flow. I'd love to replace my 150 micron one with 40 if compatible size available.
Yes. It's magical. We have been using it from many decades now. Not an overkill for municipal water, you'll be amazed to see how much silt it finds even in clear municipal water.
Oh I see
TBH, I'm not actually fixated on this very issue. But I have always been curious about finding a cheap and reliable method that can convert loads of hard water into soft water.
Like @lockhrt999 said, the smaller microns we go, the less water comes out. Water is not 24 hrs, just 25mins and in that 25 mins the tank barely fills half way if it's empty. I feel like removing the 150 micron filter and just allowing the water to come in as is.
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How much is loads of water? Kent does water softeners that can manage a whole house
I don't have a problem with the mud in my washer. The water isn't muddy unless the tank is almost empty.
Yeah, the whole house. 500 to 1000 liters daily for the whole family. Gotta check what commercial solution water bottlers use.
Kaleen Bhaiya
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RO system. In my office, there are calcium spots on the water taps meant for washing hands in the washroom. For drinking purpose they have this small RO kiosk whose TDS has been adjusted to 93ppm. But a company can afford to make up those expenses. At an individual level it gets quite costly.
The KENT RO for entire house is the solution. You need to replace the cartridge containing beads every 2-3 years with adding common salt whenever the water changes its taste. I had it as an option but since I live in a rented space, it didn't make much sense in investing such an amount.
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Is this what soap stains look like?
Not fibers but similar like in this reddit post 2nd pic on the pant.
Edit: after dissolving the detergent powder in warm water i havent seen such stains. Guess I'l have to shift to using liquid detergent after the 2-3 Kgs of my current detergent get utilised.
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Life without a heater in the machine. Or a preference for cold water washing
By fibres, I think he meant lint left on the clothes after the wash. Does that happen with you at all?
I've seen people here complain the clothes were linty after a wash in this or that top loader. Is that the case for you and have you any solution?
What detergent is it?
In spite of more water used in a top loader, it still does not dissolve during the wash cycle duration means your water temperature isn't high enough. So it gets trapped within the folds of the clothes and just stays there due to poor wash action and then leaves this stain.
And I don't think you're overloading and/or overdosing.
That should work if your water temperature is lower than required for powder
Ensure it rinses out well. I always recommend two rinses but people seem to use just one to save time which is not smart.
Larger granules with top load detergent compared to front load and given more water should not be an issue if the water temperature is high enough
Interesting observation. I found Surf cleans well in the front loader. My ideal and favourite detergent. Why that does not hold for the top load variant is a pity.
A few years ago someone was asking how to clean bedsheets with blood stains. Not a problem with Surf on a warm wash. The trick is to use a detergent with enzymes which Surf for the machine or Ariel and Tide have. At the time he was thinking it was about wash action. Not so. Wash action is secondary. It's the protein enzyme that specifically removes blood which is a protein stain.
Can't say whether Ariel or Tide clean better than Surf, about the same with more foaming from Ariel and Tide. The extra foam might be an advantage in a top loader which is why you think they clean better than Surf which typically foams less in a front loader.
You can test if Tide has some bleach. Put 5gm (teaspoon amount) in a thermos flask and add boiling water slowly halfway. Hold the flask up to your ear and then listen for a fizz.
If you hear any like from any carbonated drink then it has bleach. But my tests showed that the Tide for front loaders did not contain any. As is the case with detergents sold in India which are detergents for washing colours rather than whites and so contain optical brighteners that work in place of the older blueing.
To understand what I mean try the same experiment with 5gm of Vanish and see what happens
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Yes, there's no fizzing sound with Tide and hot water. But the test cleared one thing. When i added boiling water to the detergent, there was that disgusting smell if you keep clothes in detergent water for too long. Looks like that smell comes from detergent itself and not the clothes. So time to change the detergent i guess.
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I've some times cooked detergent in a pot. What happened was the perfume became really overpowering and needed to get out of the room and let it air out.
Not disgusting though. I've not had that with any detergent I've tested in a thermos flask.
Are you sure the Tide you're getting is genuine? this should not happen with Tide
I buy from DMart. Should be genuine.
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Can you link to which Tide it is?
Will be useful for future reference. My guess is the perfume used breaks down into not so good smelling byproducts
@blr_p it's this Tide Plus
Tide Plus Double Power Detergent Washing Powder Jasmine & Rose 6kg + 2kg FREE https://amzn.eu/d/hU2rw1i
Tide Plus Double Power Detergent Washing Powder Jasmine & Rose 6kg + 2kg FREE https://amzn.eu/d/hU2rw1i
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Seems only a handful of people had this problem. The rest of the comments are all positive and say good smell.
Check out this Amazon review of Tide Plus Double Power Detergent Washing Powder Jasmine & Rose 6kg + 2kg FREE
Smell is very bad
www.amazon.in
That makes me wonder how are you storing it. I suspect exposure to air is breaking down the perfume molecules.
Smaller airtight containers are best. With 8kg a go that would be 8 containers or 5 if you went with the smaller bag.
When I buy Surf in bulk, it comes in a box with 1kg bags. Another thing I noticed is the wash temperature matters. Usually, on warm or hotter there is not much smell when the clothes come out.
Once I decided to do a cold wash (no heating just tap temperature water) and the clothes smelt weird, I could smell the detergent on them. Not stinking just unusual. Had the usual two rinses but still, I could smell something on the clothes. The first & last time I ever tried washing at that temperature.
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chyawanprash
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I am sure the issue is in his water.
@blr_p , I'm storing it wrapped in airtight plastic bags. Unlike Surf, this product doesn't have individual packets. Open the packet and there's 8 kgs of powder in plain sight. I don't have a 8kg container for detergent. So i only opened a 1inch hole in the packing and close it with cellophane tape to make it airtight. Then i put the entire package in another plastic bag and put that plastic bag in a plastic bin with lid. I bought it because it was cheap but never again. I can't smell any fragrance from it. Smells like regular detergent.
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Then it won't matter if he changes the detergent? there will still be this smell problem
Let him confirm it with the next detergent. Too bad he won't go with surf. I bet there would be zero problems. He's already confirmed it dissolved better than P&G brands.
I can't figure out what in his water can do this to detergent.
For instance, why would the smell appear instantly when adding boiling water during testing the detergent?
The "do not soak longer than 'x' duration due to bacteria" theory is out now as bacteria require time to multiply.
The fragrance they used has a limited shelf life and has faded with time. 8kg is easily over a year's supply.
This I believe now is the issue. The fragrance molecules break down into unpleasant smelling byproducts.
This is why you cannot smell any fragrance and is why boiling water or soaking beyond a certain duration makes things smell bad
Also why people are saying the smaller packs are genuine and the larger amount is fake. They get through the smaller amount faster than the perfume has time to break down
Provided you did not see clumps over time as you poured it out of that one-inch hole the detergent will still be viable for cleaning.
Even if you stored this Tide properly i bet it would start to smell funny as its perfume would break down on its own given enough time.
Surf is more practical
Check out this Amazon review of Surf Excel Matic Powder Top Load 6kg +500ml liquid
Nice product
www.amazon.in
Or there is Amazon's store brand Presto whose OEM seems to be the same people who make Syclone based in Cal
This Presto goes almost three hundred less than the equivalent weight of Surf
You get what you pay for
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