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Superbad said:
certificate from a Arvind kejriwal?
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...nformation-under-RTI/articleshow/29834610.cms

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LOL Try harder man. Copy the trending pics by BJPtards and post them all here. Thats all you can do. How original. Half of these are actually bogus.
 
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Superbad said:
i see you get hurt by posting these pictures?
so as per @Party Monger times of india is a BJP agent (BJPTard) CNN IBN is a BJP agent(bjptard).

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Times of India, and the mass media isn't a BJP or a Congress Agent.

Those are business running for profils. Their revenues come from big corporates. They must appease these Ambanis of the world. So when big daddy is attacked by the AAP, and he wants his cronies to stay in power, the newspapers dish out crap (mis quotes, out of context quotes, anna ko dhoka type stuff, and blatant lies (like in the case of Somnath Bharti) to impact the possibilty of the cronies being displaced by an alternative which doesn't propagate big daddy's business. An alternative which is willing to actually let markets be free.

This is not just in India. Most global democracies are highjacked by corporates where they sponsor both major alternatives in front of people. Thats exactly why you see governments bailing out Investment Banks who cause economic crises, and not the people who suffered because of mis-selling and ridiculous credit appraisal of loans, besides the cheap money given by the government/Central bank combo.

You have to look at things from a larger perspective before you start going to the extent of pasting morphed images circulated by the BJP propaganda machinery. At least engage meaningfully.

Regards,
Prakash
 
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Neotheone said:
Times of India, and the mass media isn't a BJP or a Congress Agent.

Those are business running for profils. Their revenues come from big corporates. They must appease these Ambanis of the world. So when big daddy is attacked by the AAP, and he wants his cronies to stay in power, the newspapers dish out crap (mis quotes, out of context quotes, anna ko dhoka type stuff, and blatant lies (like in the case of Somnath Bharti) to impact the possibilty of the cronies being displaced by an alternative which doesn't propagate big daddy's business. An alternative which is willing to actually let markets be free.

This is not just in India. Most global democracies are highjacked by corporates where they sponsor both major alternatives in front of people. Thats exactly why you see governments bailing out Investment Banks who cause economic crises, and not the people who suffered because of mis-selling and ridiculous credit appraisal of loans, besides the cheap money given by the government/Central bank combo.

You have to look at things from a larger perspective before you start going to the extent of pasting morphed images circulated by the BJP propaganda machinery. At least engage meaningfully.

Regards,
Prakash
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This would have sounded 10 times more awesome when coming from "the one" rather than Prakash. :P

Just j/k man. Awesome response and it should be common sense for anyone to understand this. We need more sensible people in this thread.
 
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red-devil said:
Kejriwal resigned and there's no activity in this thread?? C'mon guys!:D
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He had to resign else on Monday once elecion date is declared no job can be done and these MLA like binny and other will say AK doing nothing and fooling people.He did right thing.Now he will go for lok sabha surely.
 
I don't know who is the B-Team and all of that stuff but what's gonna happen with Delhi now? President's rule? Elections?

Can Kejriwal sustain the momentum that he'll gain into the LS elections? That must be a bit of a worry for Feku!
 
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Scared? That moron sent them a copy of the bill a day before and wanted everyone to clear the Lokpal Bill today. His "my way or high-way" attitude is pathetic!

Looks like no-one posted this news here: http://articles.economictimes.india...gulatory-commission-power-tariff-bses-discoms

I would really like people to see the thoughts of people here who support this move.

P.S: I had a lot of hopes from AAP and man, have they disappointed me. This guy Kejriwal is no less a politician than politicians from other parties!
 
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red-devil said:
I don't know who is the B-Team and all of that stuff but what's gonna happen with Delhi now? President's rule? Elections?
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Presidents rule until next assembly elections which will co-incide with the Lok Sabha elections.

Can Kejriwal sustain the momentum that he'll gain into the LS elections? That must be a bit of a worry for Feku!
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Infact, even thinking from AAP point of view, this is a big mistake. They could have used some more additional time to impress the public by passing a few more populist schemes, launching Corruption Investigation charges against 5-10 more companies, do some more drama etc. Can't see this helping them in LS elections, at all.[DOUBLEPOST=1392407625][/DOUBLEPOST]In related news, Lokayukta Bill passed unanimously in Odisha: http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...ta-bill-passed-in-assembly/article5689747.ece
No media coverage, no nautanki!
 
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No media coverage, but still shares a news article from one of the top media houses in India. And moreover it is the Lokayukta bill, not the Janlokpal bill that is demanded by AAP. Big difference. The former is a crippled version that is only meant to pacify the public frustrated with corruption.
 
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No media coverage, but still shares a news article from one of the top media houses in India. And moreover it is the Lokayukta bill, not the Janlokpal bill that is demanded by AAP. Big difference. The former is a crippled version that is only meant to pacify the public frustrated with corruption.
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Care to elaborate on the differences between Lokayukta and Lokpal?
 
blkrb0t said:
No media coverage, but still shares a news article from one of the top media houses in India. And moreover it is the Lokayukta bill, not the Janlokpal bill that is demanded by AAP. Big difference. The former is a crippled version that is only meant to pacify the public frustrated with corruption.
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I think the passing of any Bill is news enough and ought to be shared. No nautanki I think covers it!

And about the part in bold: You can say it doesn't suit xyz scenario or doesn't cover abc issues but I don't think saying "it is not what is demanded by AAP" is correct. It's surely not the case of whatever is "demanded" by AAP should be accepted all across the country.

On a side note: (and not targeted any of the members here)
This sort of "sole custodianship for cleansing the country of corruption" and "holier than thou" attitude among its members and supporters is what I don't like about AAP.
 
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Every now and then Kejriwal puts everything on the line. And it makes lot of people uncomfortable. Because first he does what most people don't dare to. Take on the Central Govt. by defying orders against fasts. Then he achieves what most of us don't even dream of achieving. Becoming CM of a state from scratch. Then he gives all of that away in a flash and reboots. His sacrifices are bigger than the ambitions of the opposition leaders in the assembly.

People call it running away from responsibility. Well if giving up power when you are not allowed to function constitutes as running away from responsibility, then Manmohan Singh is the most responsible person on the planet. Kaam bhi nahin kiya, Resign bhi nahin!

Kejriwal is not running away from responsibility. We are. True Democracy is supposed to be chaotic. He upheld his commitment to his version of Lokpal. He didn't drown the trust people invested in him in the cocktail of power. He didn't let the voice of people die out by compromising on the promises he made. And now he is seeking a fresh mandate to fulfil the promises. What's wrong with that?

Lincoln said long time back. Most men can stand adversity. But If you want to test a man's character. Give him power.
May be that's why Sonia told Rahul, Power is poison. For people who are ready to compromise to stay in power. Power is indeed Poison. And this statement is a sad reflection on the person who said it.
In the quest for power Indian Political Class got so used to compromises that they forgot that Power is also the rate of doing work.
So every time there comes a person who wants to work. Be it Jaipal Reddy to Dinesh Trivedi to Kejriwal. They have to be stonewalled.

It's one thing for BJP/Congress to pass a convenient Lokpal in the Parliament for Public Posturing. It's quite another to let a law with teeth being tabled in Delhi Assembly. The picture of Harshvardhan and Lovely said it all.

Congress supporting Kejriwal was a Chakravyu. Congress was hoping for the govt. to fall organically. First Binny, then some others. But Kejriwal pulled the plug on the right issue leaving both the parties exposed on their commitment to Lokpal!

Basically Kejriwal has the cake and he ate it too!
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red-devil said:
On a side note: (and not targeted any of the members here)
This sort of "sole custodianship for cleansing the country of corruption" and "holier than thou" attitude among its members and supporters is what I don't like about AAP.
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Why? Does it make you uncomfortable that they aren't ready to make compromises, when in fact those who voted them to power did so because they believed that will deliver on them?

They haven't said one word stating that they are the sole custodians, unless you consider speaking against BJP and Congress as such. That is a false dichotomy conclusion; pretty common too.

AAP is taking a more active role in everything they want to do, putting everything on the line. I don't agree with some of their actions, but from a larger perspective, I think they are doing the right thing.

I will criticize them for individual actions that I think are bad, but I'll also support them for the larger cause they're willing to dedicate themselves to. I don't ever think BJP or Congress will ever tackle corruption or stop major criminals from attaining power. AAP can do that.
 
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If you have seen the delhi loksabha discussion live on tv, then you would know what actually happened.
For any bill to be passed, a copy should be sent to all the members and a time duration is needed to understand the bill.
After this there would be a debate on the bill and voting decides whether the bill is to be passed or not.
Like @Pat said, AK submitted the draft copy a day before, when It should be sent at least 2 days before for the people to read and discuss. (Was this deliberate and part of his resignation plan is a question?)
AK wanted was a direct debate and approval for the bill.
The speaker asked everyone whether they were OK with the introduction of the bill.
Obviously all members except the 27 AAP members, voted against, as it was not introduced according to the procedure.
Then AK resigns saying that BJP and Congress did not support.Am not sure why he resigned, when he was fighting for the bill for so long, why could not he wait a little more?
He is acting like a Drama Queen :P
 
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