The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings - Discussion Thread

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Phew! Completed the game this afternoon. I'm at loss of words as to how amazing this adventure turned out to be. I will stop comparing it to Skyrim now, since I feel it has a different theme and in my opinion, completely decimates Skyrim.

That being said, I'm glad this is another game, which lived up to it's kick-ass trailers. The last game which did this was Assassin's Creed II. To be honest, I never thought I would connect with this game, given the fact that I knew jack about the first game. And being a story driven title, this put me in a state of quandary. Anyway, I'll just try to sum up my thoughts on this game and not post a review, as you already have hordes of them.

The Witcher 2 is quite possibly, the best action/RPG I have played till date. Everything about this game reeks of high quality production values. Right down from the storyline, visual presentation, to the very last bit of dialogues uttered. It's fascinating how CDPR were so creative to bring these characters to life from the words available in a graphic novel. For once, the storyline is not about you being the only hope to save a planet, or even a person for that matter. This is about Geralt of Rivia and his quest to regain his memory, whilst clearing his name from being branded as a kingslayer, very early on in the game. This is where your escapade begins and you just wish it never ends.

The Enhanced edition has made every effort to add new content and make the game accessible to the everyone. On my first attempt, I was utterly confused with the gameplay. The use of signs, character builiding and combat was sort of difficult. But now that I have a fair grasp of the RPG elements and having played the tutorial level, a lot of the gameplay elements made sense. I went back to watching the gameplay of the first Witcher and found an immense amount of improvement in the sequel. CDPR worked upon their flaws and made it more refined. If you spend enough time with this game, almost every aspect of it will feel really simple and basic. Be it crafting, alchemy, character building tree, potion consumption, inventory management etc. everything is self-explanatory.

As I have stated before, the developers have taken the time and pain to explain every detail of the quest in your journal entries. And you know what, it's written in a narrtive form, by Dandelion, one of the game's character. This is one game where you really feel the need to know all the NPCs history. Some of your game's choices even depend on you knowing their past. None of them are more than a page long, most of all, not boring at all. This game has truly defined the words 'character development' and it's not just for Geralt, it's for every single person. You'll actually bond with some of them, develop a sense of love or hatred, find some extremely amusing and some inspiring. The point is, this game actually has the power to unleash your feelings towards the characters and influence your decisions.

Ah! "Decisions, choices". I never thought these words had meaning, in video games, till I had played Mass Effect saga. But The Witcher 2, not only takes these words seriously, it manages to change the events of an entire chapter of the game. This is something I have never witnessed. While I'm told both paths are equally splendid, I have to say, this is a great way to bring players back to the game, even after it's completion. Coming back to the choices, I love how there is no moral ground you stand on. There is no paragon or renegade meter, no good or bad, no moral or amoral sides to your character. You don't have to worry about Geralt turning into the devil's accomplice or kissing the angel's feet. It's completely your call. You decide if a person is lying or telling the truth, you decide if killing someone off or letting go is the best option, you decide if you just don't want to give a dam; it's your choice. But always remember, like in the real world, your actions will always have consequences. Good or bad, you'll have to live with it. That's what I f*ckin' love about this game. There are certain characters who will be so convincing in their speech and expressions, that can't help but empathise with them and that's when you make a choice and BAM, he/she turns out to be a back-stabber. Surprised? Don't be, that's how this game works. You just have to go with your gut feeling on some, while research/informed choice on the other.

This is a mature game, so expect mature content. Nothing is forced in this title. You have the option to make something happen, or not. Acts of violence is very hard-hitting in this game. You'll really feel the pain for a character's death. There are lot of other controversial subjects which are reflected in this game, like Rape or Incest. Although, not explicitly depicted, it's implied. Remember, this could influence your decision. Sex, nudity, abusive language, you name it, this game has it. I'm amazed at how strongly CDPR has treated the women in this game. While most games just tend to use them as eye candy and sexual objects, this game has some of that, but also makes an attempt to present the stronger side for them. Ves, Triss, Saskia etc. They are all presented in a very bold and independent form. For the voyeur folk, shift to YouTube, if this is your sole purpose of playing the game.

I'll end this by saying, this game was a brilliant adventure and I hope CDPR all the luck for their next project. These guys have an immense potential. For the people who haven't tried this game, you need to, right now. So I'm definitely waiting with bated breath for the announcement of Witcher 3.

Triss: We are in a Forest.
Roche: The question is whose forest is it?
Triss: Iorveth maybe! I know more about this tract of land than you think, for e.g. I know you took over this land from Aedirn a few years earlier for Foltest.

[then the Iorveth cut-scene ensues]

Basically, there a lot of hints that the various rulers of the north are forever in turmoil. Something that plays them into the hands of the Nilfgaardians.

So is it related to the division of Aedrin by Henselt and Nilfgaardians? Can you confirm if there was no personal or ulterior motive behind this plotting on Roche's end?

I'll try to complete Ioverth's path and see if I can find some answers. I have to ask, on you first play-through:

What did you do with Letho? Let him go or kill him? What about the Dragon and Sile?
 
Brilliant write up Ethan !
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I ve played for around 6-7 hours and I can already feel the epicness of the game!
 
I usually play as a mage in every Rpg, but I really like the sword play in this game, so swordsman it is!
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Whats your total play through time Ethan??
 
I'm not really sure Ram. I took a lot of time to go through everything & never bothered looking at the time, as I never knew when it passed by. If I had to take a rough guess, I'd say around 24 hours.
 
So is it related to the division of Aedrin by Henselt and Nilfgaardians? Can you confirm if there was no personal or ulterior motive behind this plotting on Roche's end?
I'll try to complete Ioverth's path and see if I can find some answers. I have to ask, on you first play-through:
What did you do with Letho? Let him go or kill him? What about the Dragon and Sile?
Basically if you can play the first game I would recommend you do so, it will give you a much better recap of events, but the gist of the first game is --
Geralt has lost his memory, he has been deputed by the surviving Witcher's who all disperse around the land in search for the answer why all of a sudden people have gotten instigated to the point they attack the Witcher stronghold Kaer Moren. If you notice in the game, there is book titled 'MONSTRUM: A PORTRAYAL OF WITCHERS', this book explains it all. Towards the end of The Witcher as the plot is concluded and the fires of revolt against Foltest are quelled, the Order of the Flaming Rose [vehement opposer's of Magic, Witchers and NON-HUMANS] is weakened and takes refuge in Redenia under the blessings of the sovereign King Radovid. The Scoia'tel are purged from Vyzima and return to their natural habitats around the fringe areas where they can raid caravans and traders with impunity and rebuild their strength. In the final cut-scene as Geralt walks away with his reward [though no the wiser about his amnesia] given by Foltest, he notices a movement in the shadows before a mysterious assassin bursts out finishes the guard and makes a move towards Foltest and almost kills the King, before Geralt kills him with a feint, as the assassin slowly ebbs away in a pool of his own blood, the camera moves towards his eyes and they are just like a Witcher's.
Now Aedirn had a really weak king in the form of Demavend, the Lodge of Sorceresses [illegally formed] wanted to see Aedirn broken up as a neutral territory where mages ,witches and other magical acolytes can study in peace and push the limits of the Arcane. Now Letho presents himself as a willing tool to do this wet work, but soon after wrapping up this contract starts a dangerous game of cats-paw against all these parties and from here onwards The Witcher 2 picks up.
Basically at the end of The Witcher 2, the Northern kingdoms are weakened and the Nilfgaard Army begins it march North to avenge its roll-back at the Battle of Brenna.
If you want a more detailed answer Sire, I would not mind putting it forth.
A brilliant write up by you. Really sums up the game up in earnest.
Hmmm... for those answers I will tell you, I let Letho live, because I realised the real threat was Nilfgaard and now again he owes me for letting him go, so hopefully in the next iteration you might encounter him again and can recruit him through this alibi. Also Witchers are much reduced in number in the world, it is very rare for two Witcher's to duel. I did kill him in my initial play-through.
Next, for the dragon I recommend that you play the Iorveth story arc, it will give you a better option and reveal quite a lot. Apart from that you cannot do much in the Roche path. I basically let it live.
Finally for Sile, I let her live. By the way, who did you assist --
  • Help Roche tear up Keadweni camp?
  • Rescue Triss from the Nilfgaardian camp?
May your sword stay sharp, Witcher!!
 
If you want a more detailed answer Sire, I would not mind putting it forth.

That was a nice gist of the events of the first game. However, my query still holds for Roche and Henselt.

Hmmm... for those answers I will tell you, I let Letho live, because I realised the real threat was Nilfgaard and now again he owes me for letting him go, so hopefully in the next iteration you might encounter him again and can recruit him through this alibi. Also Witchers are much reduced in number in the world, it is very rare for two Witcher's to duel. I did kill him in my initial play-through.

Next, for the dragon I recommend that you play the Iorveth story arc, it will give you a better option and reveal quite a lot. Apart from that you cannot do much in the Roche path. I basically let it live.

Dam it! I wanted to let Letho go as well. Since the Witcher's kind is slowly fading away, it would have been better if I would have let him live. I have a save backed up, just in case. So I can easily revert, if it impacts the next game. But I really wanted to face him and see how difficult he was. He turned out to be a poor challenge, as opposed to his first encounter. I suppose it was the character level up and the area being wide enough for attacks, proved to be an advantage.

Finally for Sile, I let her live. By the way, who did you assist --
  • Help Roche tear up Keadweni camp?
  • Rescue Triss from the Nilfgaardian camp?

May your sword stay sharp, Witcher!!

Helped Roche tear up the Kaedweni camp? Do you mean the part where we go to save Anais from Dethmold's clutches? Yes. I did that, instead of going to save Triss.
 
#[member='Ethan_Hunt'] Sire, here are the answers I missed out.
However, my query still holds for Roche and Henselt.
No I doubt Roche plotted anything against Kaedwen on a personal account as it is mentioned he started the incursion after the First Battle of Vergen and Sabrina is denounced and executed by Henselt [whilst she cursed him]. But after Henselt and Dethmold killed the men of the Blue Stripes in cold blood and raped Ves, I think he became unhinged and became engrossed on a personal vendetta as fate had cruelly singled him out it seems -- "born a whore-son, rising through the ranks. becoming the kings most trusted soldier eventually loosing his king, watches his country tottering and finally loosing his men and maybe his love. [I think Roche has it in for Ves]."
As I went only once down Roche's story arc, I had him kill Henselt. It felt very satisfying as he was the biggest bastard who I feel was without an ounce of morality, ready to kill Geralt just because 'there should be no loose tounges'.
Dam it! I wanted to let Letho go as well. Since the Witcher's kind is slowly fading away, it would have been better if I would have let him live. I have a save backed up, just in case. So I can easily revert, if it impacts the next game. But I really wanted to face him and see how difficult he was. He turned out to be a poor challenge, as opposed to his first encounter. I suppose it was the character level up and the area being wide enough for attacks, proved to be an advantage.
A very true assessment, as Letho cannot touch you as easily as he did so in the enclosed environs of the bath. The added opportunity to toss bombs on him, sealed his fate.
Helped Roche tear up the Kaedweni camp? Do you mean the part where we go to save Anais from Dethmold's clutches? Yes. I did that, instead of going to save Triss.
Great choice, in the end Letho does drag her out of the Nilfgaard camp on his own will, I think as a final act of support to Geralt as he and Serrit and Auckes were unable to contain Yennefer. So for that and futures sake I decided to let Letho live.
Just installed the game on my Windows XP RIG, installs fully and starts patching process direct to The Enhanced Edition. Seems have to wait for the gaming RIG to get internet for further comments.
Will keep you posted. May your sword stay sharp, Witcher!!
 
Your spoiler tags didn't work Alpha. Try to copy-paste the special text on a notepad and then re-post it.

No I doubt Roche plotted anything against Kaedwen on a personal account as it is mentioned he started the incursion after the First Battle of Vergen and Sabrina is denounced and executed by Henselt [whilst she cursed him]. But after Henselt and Dethmold killed the men of the Blue Stripes in cold blood and raped Ves, I think he became unhinged and became engrossed on a personal vendetta as fate had cruelly singled him out it seems -- "born a whore-son, rising through the ranks. becoming the kings most trusted soldier eventually loosing his king, watches his country tottering and finally loosing his men and maybe his love. [I think Roche has it in for Ves]."

But that plotting happens before the Blue Stripes soldiers are killed right? I mean Roche has a meeting with the other "noble" conspirators at that cliff house, right before Geralt barges in. There's a disagreement between Roche and the nobles and they leave. Geralt queries Roche on how did he come by conspiring against Henselt. Roche then goes onto explain how the plotting had started way back, with Foltest, when he was alive. I just read up online and saw that video again. So I think I get it now.

As I went only once down Roche's story arc, I had him kill Henselt. It felt very satisfying as he was the biggest bastard who I feel was without an ounce of morality, ready to kill Geralt just because 'there should be no loose tounges'.

Trust me. The moment I queried about Ves's rape and the way that prick replied, I just waited for a choice to appear "Kick Henselt's royal arse" and I'd click on it without hesitation and gut the son of a b**ch myself. But I guess Roche had to stab him, since it was his men that got massacred. I still think he deserved a worse death, much like Deathmold, with his balls cut off and throat slit.

A very true assessment, as Letho cannot touch you as easily as he did so in the enclosed environs of the bath. The added opportunity to toss bombs on him, sealed his fate.

I had Igni maxed out. So I just blasted him with wave after wave of fire balls and used Quen when needed.

Great choice, in the end Letho does drag her out of the Nilfgaard camp on his own will, I think as a final act of support to Geralt as he and Serrit and Auckes were unable to contain Yennefer. So for that and futures sake I decided to let Letho live.

Between rescuing Triss and a helpless child, it was an easy decision. Rescuing Anais seemed more satisfactory.

Just installed the game on my Windows XP RIG, installs fully and starts patching process direct to The Enhanced Edition. Seems have to wait for the gaming RIG to get internet for further comments.

Will keep you posted. May your sword stay sharp, Witcher!!

Excellent! So we at least know that it's not the patches. Were able to apply the older patches too?
 
I'm confused. Downloading the enhanced edition? Block the Internet connection. Run the manual patching process.
 
I'm confused. Downloading the enhanced edition? Block the Internet connection. Run the manual patching process.

Better yet, I will place the Enhanced Edition files in the download folder and let it run its course, re-download the faulty patch .bin's and continue from there on. Cheerio!!
 
Okie doke! Good luck man. After all this drama, it would be good to have the game working. In the mean time, I have loaded the chapter 1 save file. Time to experience Iorveth's path.
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Okie doke! Good luck man. After all this drama, it would be good to have the game working. In the mean time, I have loaded the chapter 1 save file. Time to experience Iorveth's path.
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Yes fingers are crossed at this end too. This trouble shooting will firmly establish the OS ka fault.
 
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Out of all the women in the game, I found Saskia to be the most mesmerizing and graceful female. Too bad, Roche's path hardly paid much devotion to her story. I hope Ioverth's won't disappoint.
 
Dammit, out of space on the hard-drive, shifted all my pre-downloaded files onto the XP RIG, now a query.
Does the Enhanced Edition make the Witcher 2's file size 15GB [original install] +15GB [Enhanced Edition] = ~30GB. If this is the size, I am out of action till mid May. Damn you MTNL.
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Out of all the women in the game, I found Saskia to be the most mesmerizing and graceful female. Too bad, Roche's path hardly paid much devotion to her story. I hope Ioverth's won't disappoint.
Oh!! You will learn a lot about the Dragonslayer in this story arc.
 
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Out of all the women in the game, I found Saskia to be the most mesmerizing and graceful female. Too bad, Roche's path hardly paid much devotion to her story. I hope Ioverth's won't disappoint.

yess! tell something about her or post some intense screenshots please.I think it will take sometime to reach there.
 
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