In real time u have the option of sneaking in a stealth attack during a front attack. Controlling ur economy while in the front of attack. There is no pause for u to think or time for u to act. U wait one sec and u might lose ur economy / army. That is the urgency i am talking about. The "micro" management is actually controlling all that at a time and planning you next move. Might be one of the reasons Starcraft is more famous than turn based games. I dont say these games are bad. I have seen a friend play Civ. Loved it - really amazing game. But was not for my playstyle.
Total War: Shogun 2 - Discussion Thread
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#ALPHA17 dude if i continued listing all the details the review would extend to 14 pages
but i have to argue that micromanagement is overdone in shogun 2. try to play as one of the clans on another island other than the primary objective kyoto.. then you will see how much of a hindrance it is.. the max i could occupy was 12 provinces.. although not my best effort it gets quite tedious.. that is why empire earth got monotonous..
but i have to argue that micromanagement is overdone in shogun 2. try to play as one of the clans on another island other than the primary objective kyoto.. then you will see how much of a hindrance it is.. the max i could occupy was 12 provinces.. although not my best effort it gets quite tedious.. that is why empire earth got monotonous..
#ALPHA17 dude if i continued listing all the details the review would extend to 14 pages
but i have to argue that micromanagement is overdone in shogun 2. try to play as one of the clans on another island other than the primary objective kyoto.. then you will see how much of a hindrance it is.. the max i could occupy was 12 provinces.. although not my best effort it gets quite tedious.. that is why empire earth got monotonous..
I think you mean Empire: Total War.
Also I agree the navy battles are very quirky and the unit AI is worse than a schizophrenic rabid dog, attack and the unit starts running away to put some range [for no apparent reason]. Also if you try micromanaging a navy ballet, watch your ships take broadside after broadside while you can do squat to the opponent. This makes using the transport function very risky as well as is a tactical quagmire. I think I will have to invest more time with this. Cheers!!
P.S. -- on a side note I need a favour. There is a member #rakesh_ic he wants a tube of TuniQ TX-2, can you help. He is based in Hyderabad.
rakesh_ic
ex-Mod
Check if you have 'skirmish mode' enabled for these units. Some units like Bow Ashigaru have Skirmish mode setting. They will run away when attacked in melee and regroup at a safe distance.
Regarding the naval battles, what difficulty are you playing at or are you talking about multiplayer? I play at the normal difficulty(Singleplayer only) and find that the naval battles are way too easy. I invariably end up capturing 60-70% of the enemy ships in almost every battle. So much so that now I'm thinking of scuppering some fleets since they have become such a huge drain on the revenue.
jc36lect3r
Skilled
Shogun 2 on sale in Steam today at 75% less.
oh..ok.. sry dude, I just assumed you were talking about Shogun 2. BTW, I also played Empire: Total War but only the American Independence campaign. That was what made me a fan of Total War series. I would recommend you get Shogun 2, a lot of stuff is improved from Empire.
Edit:
Just saw that you were the one who wrote the amazing review on Shogun 2 over at E. Well, you obviously know more about the game than me
Which clan are you playing as? I am/was playing as Shimazu and they start from the southernmost island's southernmost tip. When I stopped playing I had reached the territory next to Kyoto and was controlling 14 territories in all. I only stopped playing because of ME3 and will get back to Shogun 2 as soon I'm done with ME3. But, I'm having trouble figuring out why you say that holding islands is a pain. What exactly is the problem? Are having trouble generating enough revenue?
Do not know the details but my order [placed on 11[sup]th[/sup] March], still reads the CoD is 699/-.
I think it might be a pre-order ploy, will inquire with the flipkart.com call centre chaps about the deal and post back.
How do we order on STEAM, is it a direct credit card based transaction?
Please guide this n00b on online STEAM purchases. Thank you.
jc36lect3r
Skilled
Create an account in Steam, it's free. Login using that account and add the game to your cart. Check out the game using your Credit Card and the game gets instantly added to your Steam library. Simplicity itself.
THIS. Goddamnit!! As amazing as Flipkart is, they have this really stupid habit of suddenly hiking prices!! They did the same thing LANoire and now with this. At least they could have mentioned that the 699 price was a limited time offer! Now, it makes sense to wait for the Steam summer sale instead.
@#[member='ALPHA17'], you could've got Shogun 2 + all DLCs for $12(or was it $15?) during the Christmas sale. I bought just few days before that during the Thanksgiving sale for $18. It included ALL DLCs except off course FoTS.
@#[member='ALPHA17']: Also, since FoTS is also a steamworks title, you will have to create a Steam id anyway. So, just keep an eye on steam for a nice discount on Shogun 2.
I already have a STEAM ID Sire, ALPHA17I.
Thanks for the help, but I do not have a fast enough internet connection to download the 21GB setup, otherwise I would have requested my father to purchase the same for me. OR is it that when I want to setup the game, I do not have to download the 21GB [installer], I just need STEAM updates? because as I mentioned it takes ages to download and install the damn thing.
Cheers!! and thanks for the help.
Thanks prettt, but as I said downloading 21GB of data on a MTNL connection is not my cup of tea and also I prefer the physical discs, so just might wait it out for the Total War: Shogun 2 GOTY pack to release.
rakesh_ic
ex-Mod
I think u can instead buy the retail disk. I am sure u can get the updates through steam if the game is added there.
Though not sure.. wait for others to comment on this
oh..ok.. sry dude, I just assumed you were talking about Shogun 2. BTW, I also played Empire: Total War but only the American Independence campaign. That was what made me a fan of Total War series. I would recommend you get Shogun 2, a lot of stuff is improved from Empire.
Edit:
Just saw that you were the one who wrote the amazing review on Shogun 2 over at E. Well, you obviously know more about the game than me, but I was just having some trouble trying to understand the source of your complaint.
Which clan are you playing as? I am/was playing as Shimazu and they start from the southernmost island's southernmost tip. When I stopped playing I had reached the territory next to Kyoto and was controlling 14 territories in all. I only stopped playing because of ME3 and will get back to Shogun 2 as soon I'm done with ME3. But, I'm having trouble figuring out why you say that holding islands is a pain. What exactly is the problem? Are having trouble generating enough revenue?
Thanks a lot man
#[font=arial, sans-serif][/font][font=arial, sans-serif]ALPHA17[/font]
If you want to try something hard play as shimazu on normal..
i generally play short campaign.. 25 years and kyoto is the aim..