What exactly is Government of India doing?
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NotMyRealName
Untill you are examined by an ENT specialist, please don't use any ear drops. The condition of your tympanic membrane needs to be seen first.
BTW after writing at least 10 emails to various Indian media over last 2/3 months, Times of India finally published an article on valved masks and how they can spread the infection.
I don't need any appreciation from Indian media or it's medical fraternity, but this little piece of information was crucial and they kept on ignoring my emails for months.
I literally requested them to make it anonymous or use the name of any Indian physician in need of public recognition.
BTW after writing at least 10 emails to various Indian media over last 2/3 months, Times of India finally published an article on valved masks and how they can spread the infection.
I don't need any appreciation from Indian media or it's medical fraternity, but this little piece of information was crucial and they kept on ignoring my emails for months.
I literally requested them to make it anonymous or use the name of any Indian physician in need of public recognition.
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Even if the govt. now suggests not to use valved masks, there's no practical way they can stop people from using them. I see maybe 10% of people using valved ones.
Very few are using surgical or N95-type masks these days. A friend told me breathing through those is much easier than the surgical ones. Duhhhh, if the air is coming through easier then what about the virus. Also, maybe they think they can save money by rewashing the cloth ones indefinitely. Thing is, good branded reusable masks mention a washing limit like 30 light hand washes on the packaging. The cheap ones have no such warning/advice.
This is one of the good brands.
Very few are using surgical or N95-type masks these days. A friend told me breathing through those is much easier than the surgical ones. Duhhhh, if the air is coming through easier then what about the virus. Also, maybe they think they can save money by rewashing the cloth ones indefinitely. Thing is, good branded reusable masks mention a washing limit like 30 light hand washes on the packaging. The cheap ones have no such warning/advice.
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This is one of the good brands.
rdst_1
Juggernaut
Actually that's not the issue with valved masks as these are usually one way valves. They help in exhaling and not inhaling. So a valved N95 mask will work pretty well in saving you from the virus. However, the main use of masks is advised so that infected people, especially asymptomatic carriers don't spread the virus and that's where valve masks will fail.
Yes. The rashes on the scalp and around the ears started back in mid April. And the chest rashes appeared a month thereafter. The scalp rashes i didn't worry as much because she's got an extremely bad dandruff problem which happened 2 to 3 times few years back too and the same dandruff problem is now back, so i thought the rashes were due to dandruff, but the chest rashes look very annoying.
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Yes, that's what i meant. Asymptomatics using valved masks could be the reason for community tx even if 100% are wearing 'masks'.
in the second part I was talking about people using cloth type non-valved masks vs surgical/n95s because they're easier to breathe through and cheaper overall.
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I'm also wondering about particle size after reading the wildcraft mask claiming 0.3 micron filtration when an individual n-cov virion is about 0.1 micron. Read the following but i'm not sure about anything.
How large is a corona virus virion compared to the MP10-2.5?
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psyph3r
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This is why wearing masks is useless, especially most if not all of the ones sold locally, they only offer a false sense of security.
Half of the ones people wear are made out of the cloth bag material.
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Even the medical stores are selling crap single layer 'surgical' ones. I doubt they will even stop bacteria forget viruses.
As mentioned by red dragon earlier, true surgical masks are tied, not with elastic bands. You can quickly tell which of the cute(?) mask wearing chicks are nurses depending on if they're tied or elastic!
For most people wearing masks is to avoid being fined by the police...
Here's how to get immunity to covid-19.
First go get some SARS!
As mentioned by red dragon earlier, true surgical masks are tied, not with elastic bands. You can quickly tell which of the cute(?) mask wearing chicks are nurses depending on if they're tied or elastic!
For most people wearing masks is to avoid being fined by the police...
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Here's how to get immunity to covid-19.
First go get some SARS!
Yes, the valves are one way for one and only one purpose only. It prevents the moisture from accumulating inside. Of course it provides EQUAL protection to the non valved one for the person wearing them. But it's meant to be worn in a ward / CCU where 100 percent of the patients are infected.
Both types of N95 and higher masks give 99 percent protection from the virus( with perfect seal and about 95 percent with usual gaps between skin and mask margins, hence the name ) so there's 1 percent chance of the virus to enter even with 100 percent effective seal.
Now, if someone in wearing a valved mask and unfortunately inhales the virus, he/ she will exhale the virus unfiltered ( in theory with a higher concentration of viral load, compared to the inhaled air)
This simple fact took 2 months for the bullheads to understand.
This is one of the commonest cause of nosocomial transmission of covid 19.
Regarding the size each virion can vary from 50-200 nano-metre in diameter but a mask does not act like a simple sieve and virus can not fly around alone,they are basically RNA threads, completely dependent on other particles to move.
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are you using this one? Does it give good comfort? Anyone using the jockey mask? https://www.jockey.in/black-unisex-face-mask-pack-of-2-fm02
Have we come to the conclusion that cloth based masks are completely useless? In that case it will render all the cloth based masks useless, WC, Godrej (which is just another WC) and probably 98% of the masks being sold.
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No, but a friend has and he says it's pretty decent.
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Health Ministry warns against use of N95 masks with valves - CNBC TV18
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And now, of all places, Kerala is the only one actually (mildly) admitting to community tx.
Rest of the country, including bombay, delhi etc. remain stuck in head-in-the-sand denial.
Some nice new innovations being developed
www.extremetech.com
India coronavirus: How Kerala's Covid 'success story' came undone
In May, India's Kerala state seemed to have curbed the virus. Now it's surging. What went wrong?
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Rest of the country, including bombay, delhi etc. remain stuck in head-in-the-sand denial.
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Some nice new innovations being developed
MIT Researchers Prototype Reusable N95 Mask - ExtremeTech
Even in a world swimming in consumer goods, six months into a global pandemic we are still short of certain types of Personal Protective Equipment, especially N95-quality respirators. A team at MIT has come up with a design it hopes could ease the shortage.
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Oracle
Didn't read the judgement did you ?
Skills are useless if the people that need them don't get them
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Yeah the ford foundation found that out recently. But in india we've been treating people since May with it. It's effective with early treatment. Within 7 days of onset of symptoms. Later than that things get iffy
Earlier studies that did not distinguish this point found HCQ to be ineffective. This the MSM made a big deal out of.
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yeah yeah, you only post opposition nonsense. Still crying about migrants ? lol after these buggers started to come back because they had no jobs.
What's happening in Delhi is exactly what the court case pointed out.
Why did the central govt have to take over testing ? because the AAP party is not people's movement. They screwed up big time and deserve to be called out for it.
Health is a state subject in case you didn't know.
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Does not mention how advanced the disease was with these patients ? mild infections will make a full recovery.This sounds really scary. Hope this does not turn out to be the case.
Scientists warn of potential wave of COVID-linked brain damage
Scientists warned on Wednesday of a potential wave of coronavirus-related brain damage as new evidence suggested COVID-19 can lead to severe neurological complications, including inflammation, psychosis and delirium.mobile.reuters.com
The leftie liberal likes to scare monger. I've been calling this out since April
What does he say ? NON ICU WILL MAKE A FULL RECOVERY
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Do we have a vaccine available by end of the year as per this article in TOI? WHO mentioned that they will not have a vaccine until atleast next year but here it is mentioned that the vaccine will be available for around Rs.1000 by end of the year.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
Coronavirus vaccine update: ‘Expect Covid vaccine to be available by year-end’ | India News - Times of India
India News: With all eyes on the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine candidate, its Pune-based manufacturing partner Serum Institute plans to make one billion doses of the.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
saidu
Forerunner
On your notes on GST and CA, I was trying to file my ITR2 and realized that I would need a CA for ITR2 this year !!! I have filed ITR2 till last year and an average educated Indian cannot file an ITR2 anymore this year owing to its complications. Next year, I expect this to be havoc thanks to new regime and old regime !
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Do we have a vaccine available by end of the year as per this article in TOI? WHO mentioned that they will not have a vaccine until atleast next year but here it is mentioned that the vaccine will be available for around Rs.1000 by end of the year.
Coronavirus vaccine update: ‘Expect Covid vaccine to be available by year-end’ | India News - Times of India
India News: With all eyes on the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine candidate, its Pune-based manufacturing partner Serum Institute plans to make one billion doses of the.
The reality is that there will probably never be a covid-19 vaccine and even if one does come out it's efficacy would/should be suspect. Coronaviruses are very difficult to vaccinate against, SARS has been around since 2003 and MERS 2012. Lots of R&D yet no vaccine yet. It will take a completely revolutionary leap from current medical technology to develop an effective one, and that in itself will change the world in terms of how disease is treated and handled. Who knows, maybe that revolution is around the corner, but with current methods of vaccine development, it looks unlikely.
Why do i say the efficacy should be suspect? Govts. around the world are under a lot of pressure to release a vaccine, sometimes the placebo effect is enough to give hope to billions of people to survive. Just knowing there is a 'vaccine' is enough for many people to keep living and the world to keep turning. The US has about 4 strains of the flu, and each year they vaccinate for the predominant one. But even then they claim it has just around 50% efficacy and effectiveness (probably even less in reality). Coronaviruses and rhinoviruses are incredibly hard to vaccinate against, and we should be taking any vaccine breaking news with a good pinch of salt.
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Look at the bright side, they've created jobs for so many CAs !
Immediate and long-term consequences of COVID-19 infections for the development of neurological disease - PMC
Increasing evidence suggests that infection with Sars-CoV-2 causes neurological deficits in a substantial proportion of affected patients. While these symptoms arise acutely during the course of infection, less is known about the possible long-term ...
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Pulmonary fibrosis secondary to COVID-19: a call to arms? - PMC
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People are worried about long-term consequences of patients who have/had developed significant ARDS.
And NO vaccine at least for next couple of years. Sure there will be vaccines before that, but those will be declared ineffective ( people will rejoice and praise modern science for the amazing discovery etc.etc.) after few months.
If you want to understand what`s going on in the name of vaccine, you should first know the basics of immunology and vaccination (not difficult at all, rather interesting) I will urge you guys to go through the basics. Then you will realize, what exactly is going on ( some major vaccine manufacturers are taking it slow and keeping it a secret, some other are just creating hype after deciding adeno virus as vaccine vectors, it is basically nothing, adeno vector was tried for HIV vaccine, for malaria vaccine and probably hundreds in between, it is not even the first baby step towards a vaccine)
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Don't even bother responding or replying to the troll. He seems to have crawled back out from under the woodwork, with the usual nonsensical posts as usual.
We're nowhere even near the stage of understanding long-term damage from covid-19. How someone can make concrete claims about icu etc. is hilarious.
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Here's something to read if you're really bored and depressed and will make you laugh like a maniac!
Edit: i'm not claiming either side of the 5g story is right. it's too soon to tell. High-frequency, ultra-short wavelength RF signals could be harmful even if non-ionizing. There needs to be more research into this, without lobbies or vested interests interfering.
Edit2: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6765906/
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Eat papad everyone!
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Karnataka trying Chinese method of sealing flat.
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Union Minister launches 'papad' amid crisis, says ‘it can help develop antibodies against Covid-19’
The Union Minister said the 'papad' has been manufactured under the Aatm Nirbhar Bharat Abhiyan and claimed that it will be very helpful in fighting Covid-19.
Karnataka trying Chinese method of sealing flat.
Bengaluru: Civic officials seal apartment door with metal sheets after domestic help tested positive
The Bruhat Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike (BBMP) came under severe criticism after its officials sealed an apartment door with metal sheets after a domestic help working at the flat was tested COVID-19 positive. The BBMP officials removed the temporary sealing after facing a backlash on social...
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