Which city or place sucks the most?

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I cant bear this anymore......Stories, essays, on how India Sucks.....yet no one who is willing to change the situation:(
 
the rickshaw will ask you for their own return fares at late evenings saying they dont get bhaadaa. Thus we need to pay for our + their traveling. WTF??
Thats known as dbl fare here, kicks in after 11 pm, 10-11 is time & a half. Course once its 10pm they like to go dbl. Depends how desperate you or they are.

Catch them on an isolated stretch, he calls the price, do it on a busy road even late and your chances improve :)

Now its not our problem if they dont get bhadaa. The meters too run faster the auto speed lols. Same pune hadapsar manufactured meters are used in other parts of the state but they dont overtake their vehicles and charge the fare like anything but run just right, economically
Man , all i can say mumbai must be heaven if things always work economically. The only way you know things are ok is if you're familiar withthe route. If the meter is tampered with and you know the price ought not to be that high, just pay what you think is fair and take the guys's # down and threaten to report. I've found no argument from their side in this case. But you better be damn sure first ;)

There is no solution, outside working hours. If you legislate it can be ignored, if you enforce it reduces the number of ppl working and causes more inconvenience. There's these fixed stands here but only in the centre where they queu up and a cop takes your destination and sets the price. They usually fix it slightly higher maybe 10%.

There is a mathematical problem here similar to the travelling salesperson. What route shoud a rick driver stick with to make the most out of it :)

some of them only stick in a few heavily populates areas at certain times of the day and hope for the long trips so they are done quicker than many shorter trips.
 
RAJASTHAN...!!
The worst place I ever saw (not only saw ,spent 4 yrs of my life there)
PPl are very gud but I don`t know why they have prblms with every dilli wallas...!!
Well I had given my replies to every Rajasthani...!!
 
neoronin said:
No one has the right to blame their autowallahs except Chennaivaasis.

Haha, yeah they take it to another level unsurpassed by the crooks here :D

Another ball game all together.
 
Gowt1ham said:
I cant bear this anymore......Stories, essays, on how India Sucks.....yet no one who is willing to change the situation:(

are you >?? I'm in
 
Pune rocked (atleast for me) when I was in school. With the advent of MNC and co's people poured in from all over the country. Pune lost its tag of a Pensioner's Paradise. Now given the right circumstances this is bound to happen to any city. Period. I'm not defending Pune... but since I have stayed here since long I love it to its core be it whatever it is. The transport systems sucks; I agree.. municipality sucks; I agree... well since its my hometown there is no place like Pune for me. And it will be the same for all of you people and your hometowns. My point here is we should take in the good and leave the bad. What is good is up to each and everyone to decide and not for someone else to decide.

Peace :)
 
blr_p:
I agree with you but here is the scenario actually explained.
Yes the meters are tampered here in pune and so they run much fast than the auto speeds. And late evenings means not after 11pm but usually from 7pm onwards. After 12am it is understood we have to pay them night fare and it is fair too.:)
But already their meters zoom like a nitro boost and + they charge their own return fare. Imagine how much it hurts?:no:
Live eg: My bus halted at shivajinagar and i took auto at 7:30pm and went to Vanaj co. area, as per the meter it was some Rs 107 and + the auto driver is asking me for Rs 80 extra, why?? just coz he needs to get back to shivajinagar again and find/loot another passenger. And in place of 102 it should had cost me not more than 70 bucks. Swear if it was a mumbai rick.
Image i already paid 250 bucks for the volvo and again this 187 for no reason.:(. It almost costed me my return journey bus ticket.
And yes they do it everytime and IMO is same case with many people. Theres no nearby direct busstop to go at distant places and passengers have lugguage so they just cant keep changing bus routes esp the PMT bus, so these chaps take that advantage. :(
 
enginear said:
I completely agree with ronit.
Me myself and some of my relatives and friends studying there have similar complaints.
You are sounding a lamer or say noob in understanding these points.
Your are not chilldude as you are pointing to but a typical punekar who cant resist the blames.
Thats where you puneri lack..dont accept the reality and try to be great in your self world ignoring the offs & bads. I'm a proud mumbaikar and no issues if people have complaints about my city, i'm cool and everybody has his share of good and bad.
Dude go from shivajingr to any place like warje or kothrud or shanivarwada, the rickshaw will ask you for their own return fares at late evenings saying they dont get bhaadaa. Thus we need to pay for our + their traveling. WTF?? :@Now its not our problem if they dont get bhadaa. The meters too run faster the auto speed lols. Same pune hadapsar manufactured meters are used in other parts of the state but they dont overtake their vehicles and charge the fare like anything but run just right, economically:tongue:
Yes poona always compares itself with mumbai and other metros which it should not. First they should atleast improve their infrastructures. It should be unique than others.
Dont talk about the efforts to tackle swine flu dude, it was late when they used their slow brains. Havent your read the newspapers at that time??There were only blame games rather than any actions. But looks at other places how they handled the situation. And it sounds so childish that your comparing terrorism with diseases, you definitely need to grow.
Also are you are trying to say that the old man a puneri and other puneri people travelling were jerks? And you are too older than the old man to judge the city...haha!! Now you are yourself ruining your own people dude common wake up. Dont run from your words now.lolz dude.
Now inspite of getting so many proofs you are still ignoring everything... a pitiful act.
I would say if ever this city becomes virtual for a day i will redevelop and plan it properly and then bring it back to life. A reset or format is necessary.

If you still dont believe all this then i think you are a god sent angel riding on a white horse or a ferrari, never peeping out of your house or knowing whats going out in this world and you have got all facilities at your finger tips.
And why you asking someone to leave pune? I will rather say if you are so much in love with the city better dont enter other cities and complaint about it & be satisfied with what you have got.
P.S:
Mods you dont need to close this interesting thread just for this one city. If you do so it means you too are running from the truth. Argument is a part of discussion and just closing it is not the solution Accept the sharings and be cool all of you.:)

LOL! A 'new' member with only one post. :rofl: [I know I am saying this phrase again and again today,] but dude, seriously, how lame is that? Fight your own war, don't bring dummies to fight it for you!
Yes poona always compares itself with mumbai and other metros which it should not. First they should atleast improve their infrastructures. It should be unique than others.
First it's Pune not poona. And what's unique infrastructure? Have heard of unique numbers, what is unique infrastructure?

Havent your read the newspapers at that time??There were only blame games rather than any actions. But looks at other places how they handled the situation.
ORLY? Any examples of other cities handling it better?

Now inspite of getting so many proofs you are still ignoring everything... a pitiful act.
People know who's ignoring the facts and who's a pitiful act.
I will rather say if you are so much in love with the city better dont enter other cities and complaint about it & be satisfied with what you have got.

What? :S Dude, you are the one who's complaining, I am perfectly happy with my city.

Anyways, I am outta here, I am getting kinda bored with this and you know what, while fighting with you I just remembered that old saying 'Never fight with a ***, you both get dirty and...'
No offense to any animal. :rofl:
Bye,
Abhi.
 
enginear said:
Yes the meters are tampered here in pune and so they run much fast than the auto speeds. And late evenings means not after 11pm but usually from 7pm onwards. After 12am it is understood we have to pay them night fare and it is fair too.:)
After 12am(!), wow, you must have come from heaven :)
You need to acquaint yourself with the laws regarding fares & times to be able to argue.

enginear said:
But already their meters zoom like a nitro boost and + they charge their own return fare. Imagine how much it hurts?:no:
Live eg: My bus halted at shivajinagar and i took auto at 7:30pm and went to Vanaj co. area, as per the meter it was some Rs 107 and + the auto driver is asking me for Rs 80 extra, why?? just coz he needs to get back to shivajinagar again and find/loot another passenger. And in place of 102 it should had cost me not more than 70 bucks. Swear if it was a mumbai rick.
Two things how busy/dead is this Vanaj area ?

..and how many autos did you ask ?
Your Rs.107 instead of Rs.80 sounds a bit steep, almost a 30% markup, 10-20% is like the std markup here, but unless you do the trip very often its impossible to know whether the meter is jigged, illegal sure, but try proving it.

You'd need to know the exact distance and then you can figure it out as its a fixed amount per km, it works out to Rs.7/km in BLR but thats set to rise soon. When i think of it its trivial how they must do it just use a smaller gear to measure distance and bingo, kms are all of a sudden much shorter.

enginear said:
And yes they do it everytime and IMO is same case with many people. Theres no nearby direct busstop to go at distant places and passengers have lugguage so they just cant keep changing bus routes esp the PMT bus, so these chaps take that advantage. :(
yep sounds like they have a capitve market. Shortage always leads to a sellers market, this type of gouging goes on everywhere, try turning the tables if you can.

Are there any other places to get out at closer by, usually buses stop in several places before the terminus. If you get off at a busy area, your chances may be better.
 
Dude enginear... that rick guy looted you... If you were new to the city then its ok it happens all over India. But if lived in Pune and still shelled out money then u were looted... And to the people thinking that the return money is cumpolsary.. its only when you travel across the city from PMC to PCMC and at ungodly hours. If rickwallas are asking you return money at anytime before 11 PM leave and catch someother rick, and not at a rick stand for Godsakes they are all "mile hue"

Why are we talking abt we should be talking about cities :bleh:
 
@cool_dude and djmykey, don't bother replying and feeding the troll. Pune does not need to defended from some lame ass comments made by these guys.
and regarding the auto rickshaw thingie, most of the times the autowallas are clever enough to recognize a moron and loot him accordingly, so if the shoe fits, wear it :)
 
blr_p said:
After 12am(!), wow, you must have come from heaven :)
You need to acquaint yourself with the laws regarding fares & times to be able to argue.
i clearly mentioned that charging double is ok after 12 midnight. But they ask for dual fare from evening itself and in that area as i said it is the only mode of transport to distant places.

blr_p said:
Two things how busy/dead is this Vanaj area ?

..and how many autos did you ask ?
It is a busy zone as it meets to main national highway (mum-pune and pune-satara) and outbound transport trvels through this route. Atleast busy zone till 11pm atleast. And Rickwallas will surely find many passengers in vanaj or kothrud zone any time going to many parts of the city esp. deccan camp.

blr_p said:
Your Rs.107 instead of Rs.80 sounds a bit steep, almost a 30% markup, 10-20% is like the std markup here, but unless you do the trip very often its impossible to know whether the meter is jigged, illegal sure, but try proving it.

Have travelled often and even if they dont charge double still the default fare goes quite high. And there are some good autowallas too but rare to find whose meters are fair to the fare. Also i spoke to some good rickwallas and they agreed here meter tampering is on high and said people do know the exact fare so they refuse to pay more. Another important thing, many a times if we need to go at certain places they directly charge flat rates like 20 or 30 bucks and if we insist via meter rate they just refuse to go. This is insane as metered rates are low than those.

And i'm not new here and have lots of proper pune friends and they say this is all common here and we just need to be alert and informative. Yes true for a newbie but still insane for oldies and everyone.
I'm not saying it only happens here but experiencing here only. Dont know about other metros and towns. Hope all is well there.

Others who dont agree or whatever then atleast be polite in whether you accept or not. Dont argue using harsh or bad phrases esp. you Mr cool_dude. I complete & turn your own phrase Never fight with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig enjoys it! on you.

apollyon said:
@cool_dude and djmykey, don't bother replying and feeding the troll. Pune does not need to defended from some lame ass comments made by these guys.
and regarding the auto rickshaw thingie, most of the times the autowallas are clever enough to recognize a moron and loot him accordingly, so if the shoe fits, wear it.
As i said before you are all lucky people who are born and bot up in pune so you know the a-z here and never feel victim to anything like this. So why will u agree with all this. So in your case either the shoe is small or the ankle is up size and so you all are happy go lucky.
 
ronit said:
...lolZ:ohyeah:

pune sucks in following terms:-- My experience in past 28 months.

A neat guided complaint

Pathetic people all over-- No one will guide you properly. All seem selfish esp. shop owners. If a shop has no particular product he wont recommend or tell us similar shop where we can get it no matter what. We simply hear mujhe pata nahi or aisa koi shop idhar kahi nahi. Poona people think they r real rajas n maharajas. Not a single person will guide you or talk to you properly. They will either be very aggressive or ignorant or simply act Khadoos with you as if doing any ehsaan or upkaar on you. :no:

Today we were at JM road nr McDonalds and nearby there is CROCS shop, my uncles kid liked the shops look and he demanded for a snap off his cellphone and while taking the snap the croc person came out and started shouting and so the nearby watchman saying its not allowed and is illegal n etc etc..and were very harsh & said no shops will ever let you take their shop snaps. WTF? Crap n bullshit:S.

We can freely take snaps of any offices and even reknowned car showrooms then who the hell is this croc in front of them? In Mumbai or any other places we can freely take snaps of any shops and anything unless specified.

Odd bus services-- Bus frequency is worse than anywhere and so is their condition and bus fare. They charge high fares but just look at their maintenance, bus can breakdown suddenly for no reasons anywhere. No windows no proper seats and at times just go on a single DIM headlamp. And after 9:30pm very low bus frequency service to many areas of city even though you may see many people everywhere. Buses wont stop at busstops no matter ther are empty, until you wave hand or even that wont help at times.

To add--

Tin covering the engine which has been already detached from corners..u can also see the road and engine part of bus throgh it!!!

Lights inside the bus are also very dull(jst like 0 watt bulb!!).U will feel like,u have gone to some village side and sitting in Candle light!!

I think PMT buses has never gone through OILING of their engines especially BREAKS!!

Bcoze whenever driver applies breaks,u will get a forward jerk of 3-4 foots!!!!!

Have a SAFE & at on your own RISKABLE JOURNEY in PMT BUSES!!!!!!!!!:bleh:

Auto rickshaw-- Well what to say about these here? The meter goes on and on so fast, even fast than the autos speed. Where we can travel for say 12 bucks these auto meters will shelve your 17 bucks for sure. They charge you even for their own return journey--WTF. :@ and at times they simply charge you flat rates and wont take you by the meter ways.

BTW using same pune mfg meters in mumbai and they seem very economical---shame poona shame :tongue:

Traffic issue-- Unsolved and will remain unsolved for ages to come:-- They dont know how to tackle the traffic so the RTO keeps on changing the routes from time to time n now its one way in most parts. Still no outputs-- i pity seriously.:tongue:--poor pune-- Also if u wanna enjoy free side rides, then this is the perfect place. You can drive in any directions here ulta as i would say, so dont get amazed if suddenly any vehicle comes from front on left side lane.

Women reservations-- If you happen to travel in PMT buses then be ready to face embracing moments from poona women regarding seating rights.

They have full left side row reserved and wont allow any gents to seat there but r not ashamed to sit on any gents seats. It means the transport system is only designed for these ladies and not any man. If you seat there they will DEMAND you to get up and if you deny then they will do jabardasti and start giving bad words. Unke hi baap ka raj hai jaise..

A total injustice on man here.

Is this what is called pune?? Aurat ka gundaraj??

A real pollution FREE!! for all city-- If you have a clean surrounding and r missing some dirt then this is the place to visit and grab some kachra and dirt and what more, you will get much added bonus free of cost.

People in pune dont have money or simply dont regularly check their vehicles for PUCs but they do want BMWs and Audis to own. They dont deserve any such good things infact they should ride a bicycle. They are kanjoos and at times only for themselves they have abundant money to do aiyashiis.

A common man cant even walk on streets, roads or gullies freely without using a piece of cloth around his face just coz of this dangerous pollution.

Global warming is increasing due to a city like this.

Monster men-- Men here will keep staring on your moms, sis, girl friends, or any lady from head to toe. As if men here havent seen a women in recent centuries.

If that was enough then if a girl is standing for an auto/ bus or for any reasons, ongoing men no matter any pedestrian, or truckwalla, tempowalla etc. will especially park besides her and starts to shoot out all kinds of raunchy words to the poor girl, they may even say like 'Chalti kya?' or "for whom u r waiting, come lets go" all sorts of comments on her dresses, physics and what not....just cant speak any more. :ashamed:

It simply indicates that people here have no serious work to do but they do have their precious times for something like this. I pity thier own women- daughters, sis etc.

Kab sudhrenge??

Woooah... Seems like you have a LOT of problems with Pune. I have been living here since past 4 and half years and I just love it here. Although I disagree on most of the points you mentioned, I do agree with the traffic problems issue. But still every city has some or the other problem and for me these problems of Pune doesn't make it suck ;)

IMO, Mumbai sucks a hell lot.

1. TOO costly!

2. Crowdy Crowdy Crowdy Crowdy

3. Dirty

... can think many more

ronit said:
Road work is going at paud road and observing it since last july last year but even the contractor and the workers are unable to figure out what exactly they are upto:S they are just digging and filling and again same thing. The road is lost and now looks like a ghaati rasta. But in other cities same work is completed within max 15days and not more.

As far as the above statement is considered, show me any ONE city in WHOLE of India where such work can be completed in 15 days. Take the national holidays and Sundays additionally to the 15 days :ohyeah: ! I don deny that work there is quite slow but you are just being unrealistic here! Seems like you have a 'real' bad experience with Pune :P

enginear said:
As i said before you are all lucky people who are born and bot up in pune so you know the a-z here and never feel victim to anything like this. So why will u agree with all this. So in your case either the shoe is small or the ankle is up size and so you all are happy go lucky.

Dunno about those guys but at least I wasn't born in Pune but been here since just past 4 and half years and have been loving every day here! I have now made this city my permanent home and am proud to say that I too am a Punekar now! :)

P.S @ronit. Just read all of your posts in this thread and it seems to me that your created this thread not to talk about 'Which city sucks most?' but just to vent out your anger/irritation against Pune! :P
 
Any city or town where you are brought up will be a heaven since you are soo acquainted to it, no other place can match it

For me, Chennai is the best :)
Bangalore come close second as i find it so similar to Chennai in many ways, the language, food, people(sort of)
though i curse the traffic :P

I didn't like Hyderabad much in the short time i spent there(initial impressions), which is understandable, considering the getting-used-to factor was missing

and as one said, No one has the right to blame Autowallas except Chennaites

The most horrendous Auto experience can be had in chennai. I even told an autoguy that you people bring bad name to the city with outside folks
 
Spectre said:
For me, Chennai is the best :)
Bangalore come close second as i find it so similar to Chennai in many ways, the language, food, people(sort of)
though i curse the traffic :P
Thing that struck me about chennai is how wide your roads are !!

Very few like that here, whenever i see one its breathtaking.

Good to know that so far no one can beat chennai when it comes to autos :)
 
@amol_cool:

If i was to go against pune, shouldnt i had made a poll straightway rather than creating this thread??:P

I have been to Delhi, Amritsar, Jammu, Assam, Ahmadabad and Surat cities and IMO they all seem to be better esp Amritsar and and Surat. But still some people are talking -ve about Delhi so cant defend it as people say, everyone has his piece of cake-whether tasty or not.

To your another point i will say better visit the paud road area if you havent yet in past a yr and ask anybody there what construction exactly is going on the road and there you will get the answers.

Dude flyovers are well constructed within 2yrs span and here you can see in last 18months all senseless work going on in a small stretch as f they have no goals and just going on damaging the road and creating more problems to the public day by day. The original road was better and proper and had smooth traffic and management too.

And as for i said, 15days of work , i only compared this kind of road work in with another city and max it can be very well get completed within a month.

You said Mumbai sucks. :S

---It is costly in terms of property. We Mumbaikars have not made it costly but the city demand has. Financial capital of India if you dont know it.:D

---It is cheapest in terms of travellling--no doubt u have lots of options, cabbies, buses, ricks, trains), food, clothing and what not.:hap2:

---Yes it is crowdy coz it is home for everyone and we cant and dont want to restrict any outsiders here. Its a dream come true city. Everyone is welcome here. Still well managed and strict too.:cool2:

---It isnt dirty, you may have visited only the Rly. station adjoined zones i guess. Or say some low lying areas which are dirty. But it is common in other cities too isnt it?;)

Still no regrets, you may had a bad exp here. But i will certainly say all is well here. I dont need to defend my city. :clap:

I would had definitely written about the cities i have visited & mentioned here but with none of them i had any bad expe or say neither of them Sucked!!:)
 
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