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@becool773 the above advice of getting 5600h with 3050ti for 70k is best bet.

See if you have any old laptop broken or a tablet ( not sure ifnthey take that) something and exchange it .

Hp victus btw is not so great with thermals either as I know because I own one but it is also not to that bad overall.
 
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HP Pavilion laptops are bad as well. Dell is not good either, but that is the case with all budget laptops. Jarrod reviewed HP pavilion gaming, check that.

4600H vs 5600H doesn't matter for gaming much. The jump in GPU will overcompensate & Jarrod has good fps number & comparisons with other laptops. I see no reason for a gamer to pick 5600H + 1650 laptop over 4600H + 5600M.

2.5" drives can be HDD or SSD. Jarrod was talking about M.2 SSD slots & that 2nd M.2 slot will be unusable with 2.5" drive installed.

FK has wrong specs at times, so 14.96" is a typo, such panel size is not made by any panel manufacturer. People have confirmed that it is a 120Hz panel that too with freesync in 60-120Hz range (search in google what freesync is, watch some videos, nice to have feature).

Dual channel RAM (2 sticks of RAM) provide some performance advantage over a single stick, noticeable with game fps. Again Jarrod has a video on that, look it up (single channel vs dual channel RAM).

I attached 2nd video to specifically address the thermals. Also recommended using a cooling pad or laptop stand. Disable CPU turbo boost, if needed. You are buying a budget gaming laptop, it will have some issues, heck more expensive laptops also have some sacrifices. No perfect laptop. Beware, you will have to spend time optimizing it. If this seems like a pain, get 1650 or 5500M Victus & live with that.

Ideally, I will recommend increasing the budget to 72k for HP Victus with R5 5600H + 3050Ti + 8GB RAM & adding 2nd 8GB RAM later. Else, live with that Dell G15 SE, keep its temps in check, enjoy gaming on it.

Also, I will blindly not trust any salesmen, most are liars. Some might be good, but yet to experience one, I mean it is their job.
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Bro ordering this g15 se for someone right now. It has m.2 nvme slot x2? But in the yt videos that i have checked, including the ones posted by you, the ssd size is smaller, basically half the size of the m.2nvme can you help on this?
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@becool773 the above advice of getting 5600h with 3050ti for 70k is best bet.

See if you have any old laptop broken or a tablet ( not sure ifnthey take that) something and exchange it .

Hp victus btw is not so great with thermals either as I know because I own one but it is also not to that bad overall.
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Can you recommend a model/oem with 5600h+3050ti?
 
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Bro ordering this g15 se for someone right now. It has m.2 nvme slot x2? But in the yt videos that i have checked, including the ones posted by you, the ssd size is smaller, basically half the size of the m.2nvme can you help on this?

Can you recommend a model/oem with 5600h+3050ti?
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@OMEGA44-XT mention. HP victus .
Just check on internet they have several one is 5600h plus 3050ti but I think it is usually about 80k ...I did saw once on sale for 72k though.
 
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Bro ordering this g15 se for someone right now. It has m.2 nvme slot x2? But in the yt videos that i have checked, including the ones posted by you, the ssd size is smaller, basically half the size of the m.2nvme can you help on this?

Can you recommend a model/oem with 5600h+3050ti?
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See the video carefully, it has screw slot for normal 2280 size M2 SSD, but 2242 size one is indeed installed.

Victus R5 5600H + 3050Ti for 72k
https://www.amazon.in/HP-Processor-16-1-inch-Graphics-16-e0350ax/dp/B09RX2S3C8/

Dell G15 5515 with R5 5600H + 3050 for 68k
https://www.flipkart.com/dell-ryzen...-hz-g15-5515-gaming-laptop/p/itmb14d1cbc2f2fe

Add 2nd 8GB RAM stick to either option. Try to use someone's CC to get 5% cashback.

3050 & 3050Ti goes up to 80W only, so won't go as hot as 95W or 110W 3060 of Victus of G15 in Jarrod's review. As shown in video, use a good cooling pad, like Deepcool Multicore X6 or IMO just a good stand like Portronics my buddy lite. I have both of those cooling solutions & both have same thermals, like just 1-2C lower on cooling pad, that too I had to keep a 1cm thick book between the laptop & pad. So the laptop stand will suffice.
 
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@becool773 the above advice of getting 5600h with 3050ti for 70k is best bet.

See if you have any old laptop broken or a tablet ( not sure ifnthey take that) something and exchange it .

Hp victus btw is not so great with thermals either as I know because I own one but it is also not to that bad overall.
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Which Victus model do you own?
 
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Hp victus has 144hz display too.
Very good price imo.
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Not different from Dell's 120Hz one. Both are like 65-70% sRGB poor response time panels, real world response times of 15ms or so. Those 100% sRGB 144Hz panels that list 3ms response time actually hit real-world response times of 7-8ms avg.
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You should be able to give a better idea of thermals. I assume that laptop's CPU goes up to 35W avg & GPU up to 80W avg while gaming, right? You using a cooling pad or some thick book to raise back of the laptop?
 
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Not different from Dell's 120Hz one. Both are like 65-70% sRGB poor response time panels, real world response times of 15ms or so. Those 100% sRGB 144Hz panels that list 3ms response time actually hit real-world response times of 7-8ms avg.

You should be able to give a better idea of thermals. I assume that laptop's CPU goes up to 35W avg & GPU up to 80W avg while gaming, right? You using a cooling pad or some thick book to raise back of the laptop?
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I already did in one of my post above.

The thermals are not too good tbh but does just does not cross the danger line.. When gaming games like NIoh on HD setting can go to 86-88C and RE3 goes to about between 75C-80C.

I am using a cooling pad and it well lifted up.

Also I am working from quite a pleasant weather place. I believe in city with very hot weather...you will definitely need a AC otherwise this laptop will not be able to handle.
Having said that lot of my friends say no gaming laptop will be able to handle the heat without AC anyways so just pointing out to HP victus model will be unfair.
 
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See the video carefully, it has screw slot for normal 2280 size M2 SSD, but 2242 size one is indeed installed.

Victus R5 5600H + 3050Ti for 72k
https://www.amazon.in/HP-Processor-16-1-inch-Graphics-16-e0350ax/dp/B09RX2S3C8/

Dell G15 5515 with R5 5600H + 3050 for 68k
https://www.flipkart.com/dell-ryzen...-hz-g15-5515-gaming-laptop/p/itmb14d1cbc2f2fe

Add 2nd 8GB RAM stick to either option. Try to use someone's CC to get 5% cashback.

3050 & 3050Ti goes up to 80W only, so won't go as hot as 95W or 110W 3060 of Victus of G15 in Jarrod's review. As shown in video, use a good cooling pad, like Deepcool Multicore X6 or IMO just a good stand like Portronics my buddy lite. I have both of those cooling solutions & both have same thermals, like just 1-2C lower on cooling pad, that too I had to keep a 1cm thick book between the laptop & pad. So the laptop stand will suffice.
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See the video carefully, it has screw slot for normal 2280 size M2 SSD, but 2242 size one is indeed installed.

Bhai I just know that there is size difference between 2280 and 2242 so again asking the stupid questions, sorry. This laptop has 2242 installed and I can see the space for the 2242 only. Where is the space for 2280? Is 2242 superior than 2280? Which is a good ssd, like MX 500 is the gold standard for 2.5"sata ones, for 2242 and 2280? Please ELI5

Thanks for the links, but they are out of budget considering that a separate ssd will be needed so it will increase the price

BTW the price of that ho 5600h+1650 again shot up. The dell guy was right, the market is very volatile.
 
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See the video carefully, it has screw slot for normal 2280 size M2 SSD, but 2242 size one is indeed installed.

Bhai I just know that there is size difference between 2280 and 2242 so again asking the stupid questions, sorry. This laptop has 2242 installed and I can see the space for the 2242 only. Where is the space for 2280? Is 2242 superior than 2280? Which is a good ssd, like MX 500 is the gold standard for 2.5"sata ones, for 2242 and 2280? Please ELI5

Thanks for the links, but they are out of budget considering that a separate ssd will be needed so it will increase the price

BTW the price of that ho 5600h+1650 again shot up. The dell guy was right, the market is very volatile.
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IMO 2242 is rare & just much lower options in market. So 2280 is better to have. SN570 or Samsung 980 are good M.2 choices depending on sales.
 
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But in the videos this laptop is having the smaller 2242 one which is my doubt from the word go
Found a good website comparing the two https://www.faceofit.com/m-2-2280-vs-m-2-2242/
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I just mentioned the difference between 2242 & 2280. Since Dell has a screw slot for 2280 M2 SSD, it shouldn't matter to you if you get 2242 or 2280, although the latter is better to have because of wider compatibility. Like I put my M.2 SSD from old laptop to my desktop.

SS for G15 5515:
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I just mentioned the difference between 2242 & 2280. Since Dell has a screw slot for 2280 M2 SSD, it shouldn't matter to you if you get 2242 or 2280, although the latter is better to have because of wider compatibility. Like I put my M.2 SSD from old laptop to my desktop.

SS for G15 5515:
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Thank you so so much bro. Last questions-

What are the differences between these laptops https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/laptop...ng-laptops/Gaming-3-Gen-6-15-AMD/p/82K201UHIN vs https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09SKTLDK1?th=1 Is the ram soldered? It is using m.2nvme ssd and other one needed is 2.5"sata ssd, right?

Lenovo product photos from their website says it is ryzen 7 series processor, rgb keyboard+16gb ram which is wrong as per the description box
 
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Thank you so so much bro. Last questions-

What are the differences between these laptops https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/laptop...ng-laptops/Gaming-3-Gen-6-15-AMD/p/82K201UHIN vs https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09SKTLDK1?th=1 Is the ram soldered? It is using m.2nvme ssd and other one needed is 2.5"sata ssd, right?

Lenovo product photos from their website says it is ryzen 7 series processor, rgb keyboard+16gb ram which is wrong as per the description box
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I will say Victus & Dell G15 are better built than that Lenovo. Also, that laptop has 1 M.2 slot which accepts only 2242 size SSD & apparently that slot is left free, has 2.5" drive space but will use 2280 M.2 slot space as well. Jarrod reviewed that as well I think. Check his review. RAM is not soldered. Just don't consider this. Acer Nitro 5 supports 2x M.2 2280 SSD + 1x 2.5" drive bay but is out of stock these days.

There are multiple SKUs of each model, so marketing materials show the best possible stuff that can be found in a particular model.

Someone posted pic of internal:
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I will say Victus & Dell G15 are better built than that Lenovo. Also, that laptop has 1 M.2 slot which accepts only 2242 size SSD & apparently that slot is left free, has 2.5" drive space but will use 2280 M.2 slot space as well. Jarrod reviewed that as well I think. Check his review. RAM is not soldered. Just don't consider this. Acer Nitro 5 supports 2x M.2 2280 SSD + 1x 2.5" drive bay but is out of stock these days.

There are multiple SKUs of each model, so marketing materials show the best possible stuff that can be found in a particular model.

Someone posted pic of internal:
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Bhai as per the image 2280 slot is filled, 2242 is left empty along with the 2.5"sata slot on the bottom left. Isn't this good as this is giving a user multiple options? If we can leave aside the build quality for a second?
 
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Bhai as per the image 2280 slot is filled, 2242 is left empty along with the 2.5"sata slot on the bottom left. Isn't this good as this is giving a user multiple options? If we can leave aside the build quality for a second?
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Read all my comments again. 2242 is not easy to find. Lenovo should have filled 2242 slot with default SSD & left it up to user to use either 2280 SSD or 2.5" drive bay. Now someone who wants to use a 2.5" drive will have to remove 2280 SSD & look for a 2242 SSD for OS.
 
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Read all my comments again. 2242 is not easy to find. Lenovo should have filled 2242 slot with default SSD & left it up to user to use either 2280 SSD or 2.5" drive bay. Now someone who wants to use a 2.5" drive will have to remove 2280 SSD & look for a 2242 SSD for OS.
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PFA. I have highlighted the 2280 and 2.5"sata space as per my understanding. Please correct me about the slot of 2242.

https://imgur.com/a/6ffDY8f

Wasted 2 hours on chat as phone support was on leave with Lenovo. They had no idea about 2242 or 2280. They kept on saying that hdd can be added, period.
 
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PFA. I have highlighted the 2280 and 2.5"sata space as per my understanding. Please correct me about the slot of 2242.

https://imgur.com/a/6ffDY8f

Wasted 2 hours on chat as phone support was on leave with Lenovo. They had no idea about 2242 or 2280. They kept on saying that hdd can be added, period.
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You CANNOT use 2x M2 SSDs + 1x 2.5" drive in Lenovo Ideapad Gaming 3.

that laptop has 1 M.2 slot which accepts only 2242 size SSD & apparently that slot is left free, has 2.5" drive space but will use 2280 M.2 slot space as well
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Now someone who wants to use a 2.5" drive will have to remove 2280 SSD
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Please read those again. If I was not clear, to use a 2.5" drive, you HAVE to remove the 2280 M2 SSD first. There is not enough space below the left SSD slot for a 2.5" drive to fit, hence the removal of the 2280 SSD is required.

Chat support is technically true. But not surprised that they don't know about 2242 vs 2280. These people lie on customer's face as well though. 2.5" drive slot can be used for HDD or SSD, if you didn't knew. 2.5" SSD will be SATA only. M2 can be SATA or NVMe, depends on the slot on mobo. NVMe on those laptops are up to Gen3 only, not Gen4.
 
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@becool773 this could be crazy deal imo.


It is not much high from your budget but crazy overall specs specially with display .

having said that I do not know How good Asus laptops are with thermals ...so maybe people can share their experience.
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Not different from Dell's 120Hz one. Both are like 65-70% sRGB poor response time panels, real world response times of 15ms or so. Those 100% sRGB 144Hz panels that list 3ms response time actually hit real-world response times of 7-8ms avg.

You should be able to give a better idea of thermals. I assume that laptop's CPU goes up to 35W avg & GPU up to 80W avg while gaming, right? You using a cooling pad or some thick book to raise back of the laptop?
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Thermals you asked for.

I did an omen upgrade yesterday and it seems to have made thermals even better.

Used to go 86C here but now close to 80C and during normal web surfing it use to be 55C
Now it's 49C most of the time.

If it helps .
I hope this stays the way it is now .
 

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