Review Amazon India - Feedback Thread

I don't know if someone has posted this. I made a bad decision of simply trusting a seller from their rating. After purchasing, i looked at their feedbacks closely and noticed that they have pages upon pages (around 25 pages) of fake feedbacks.

I just don't know how such a big shop like amazon allows this
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I made a bad decision of simply trusting a seller from their rating. After purchasing, i looked at their feedbacks closely and noticed that they have pages upon pages (around 25 pages) of fake feedbacks.

I just don't know how such a big shop like amazon allows this
Amazon can't do much in such cases without spending a good amt of money on hiring ppl to detect & prevent such things which they apparently won't do because well it cost good amt of money. I always prefer direct sellers of amazon like clicktech & reading reviews of the product itself in recent times followed by other sellers & their reviews as well after reading that specific product reviews.
 
Amazon can't do much in such cases without spending a good amt of money on hiring ppl to detect & prevent such things.
I mean, the feedbacks are from the same account saying the same thing again and again in a single day. I think it's easily detectable and also preventable without human intervention.
 
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I mean, the feedbacks are from the same account saying the same thing again and again in a single day. I think it's easily detectable and also preventable without human intervention.
That paid user ordered different items from same seller & left feedback on all of them & there is no such amazon policy that says one can't give same feedback to different products of same seller. It needs human intervention to detect such cases.
 
I don't know if someone has posted this. I made a bad decision of simply trusting a seller from their rating. After purchasing, i looked at their feedbacks closely and noticed that they have pages upon pages (around 25 pages) of fake feedbacks.

I just don't know how such a big shop like amazon allows this
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He's trying to leave review in morse code.

Does fakespot work for Amazon India or do we have any such tools which work here ?
Reviews for the addon is bad and I don't think it works correctly.
 
I just don't know what's in it for the fake seller. They provided a fake Delhivery tracking number so it is marked as "shipped". But they never really ship it, so at the end of the day I will have my money back. What benefit do they get from it apart from wasting my time? They even have multiple accounts so they seem to put effort in it.
 
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I just don't know what's in it for the fake seller. They provided a fake Delhivery tracking number so it is marked as "shipped". But they never really ship it, so at the end of the day I will have my money back. What benefit do they get from it apart from wasting my time? They even have multiple accounts so they seem to put effort in it.

They get your address, phone number etc. Verified details to sell to data buyers.
 
Older Amazon Basics were pretty good quality, this is from that era (before Covid).

Anyway they published my review after they offered a replacement, which I intended on returning for a refund (need to accept at least one replacement before refund becomes an option).

What showed up was the Made in China model! I never thought I'd be so happy to see a Made in China product over our own Made in India. I blame the entire state of Gujarat, for no particular reason.

So now I ended up with exactly I wanted and it's become part of my setup where I pretend to be a YouTuber despite having no following.

It looks like they're shipping off these terrible Made in India versions on customers who don't know or don't expect better and only replace them with the higher quality imported version only when a customer initiates a complaint.

And the quality is so good, it's like night and day between this and the Made in India version. Literally nothing else that I own that's made out of metal has a better surface finish or tolerances. Except maybe that server rack I built.
Honestly, whoever thought that "made in India" would work without fundamental and structural changes in the entire Indian Political and bureaucratic system deserves a kick in their balls from a blue-colored worker in their industrial boots. Indian govt (of the past, present, and future) gets its bread and butter from the hurdles it put in the entire "made in India" shtick. And I would bet my bottom dollars that the "made in India" rack you received just got welded here in India with all the materials sourced from China, along with the welding machine and the welding rod. And honestly, who wants to do hard work, the govt bans Chinese e-commerce websites (in the name of fake patriotism) only for local scammers to buy the same shit from China, mark it up, and sell it to dimwits here in India.

I professionally know big manufacturers (OEMs for major Indian brands like BoAT etc and a few I wouldn't name) who get subsidies and govt contracts through side channels. And you know what gets manufactured in India, the plastic casing that's it. And it gets branded as "Made in India". The plastic comes from China though, all the machinery, the designs, CAD work, etc guess what china... If something goes wrong, guess who gets called. The unnamed manufacturing plant, cut the salary of the shift workers during the Covid ( I know their markups and profits). I wouldn't/can't disclose anything but govt contracts in "You Guess the Dept" that have explicit "no China" policy due to security; well, things eventually come from China, even if they have to take a detour to say Taiwan, Singapore, or any whitelisted country in the Asia Pacific.

Personally, more often than not, I look for Made in PRC, at least I can be sure that it was competently made.
 
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And you know what gets manufactured in India, the plastic casing that's it. And it gets branded as "Made in India". The plastic comes from China though, all the machinery, the designs, CAD work, etc guess what china...
Have to start somewhere. Chinese learned like that too. Baby steps before you do long jump. Don't forget China wants to move up the value chain. Someone will pick up the slack and about damn time we did too
I wouldn't/can't disclose anything but govt contracts in "You Guess the Dept" that have explicit "no China" policy due to security; well, things eventually come from China, even if they have to take a detour to say Taiwan, Singapore, or any whitelisted country in the Asia Pacific.
They will burn their fingers one day
Personally, more often than not, I look for Made in PRC, at least I can be sure that it was competently made.
Said Americans about Japanese cars in the 60s & 70s. Decade after tune changed.

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Have to start somewhere. Chinese learned like that too. Baby steps before you do long jump.

They will burn their fingers one day

Said Americans about Japanese cars in the 70s. Decade after tune changed.
Yeah, I would love that to happen in India believe me. I am not some lunatic, I am in part responsible for what's happening, I voted for the guy thrice now. However, you missed this

Honestly, whoever thought that "made in India" would work without fundamental and structural changes in the entire Indian Political and bureaucratic system deserves a kick in their balls from a blue-colored worker in their industrial boots

And ask yourself about the probability of that happening. No matter the party, liberal, conservative, centrist. Not happening.

Japanese didn't suddenly start making good cars, they didn't fight a world war taking baby steps. They were ruthless, built their economy after the war, and made revolutionary economic policies to reach where they are today.

Words don't manufacture stuff.
 
Yeah, I would love that to happen in India However, you missed this

Honestly, whoever thought that "made in India" would work without fundamental and structural changes in the entire Indian Political and bureaucratic system deserves a kick in their balls from a blue-colored worker in their industrial boots

And ask yourself about the probability of that happening. No matter the party, liberal, conservative, centrist. Not happening.
Come back in ten years and tell me that :happy:

Everything about this country gets bashed, unfairly compared. What is the result? That is how things don't happen.
Japanese didn't suddenly start making good cars, they didn't fight a world war taking baby steps. They were ruthless, built their economy after the war, and made revolutionary economic policies to reach where they are today.

Words don't manufacture stuff.
They were assisted just like China. You don't understand or know that. We have to do it ourselves.

Easy when you can invest in development when some one else has your back. Defense is expensive.
 
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Come back in ten years and tell me that :happy:

Everything about this country gets bashed, unfairly compared. What is the result? That is how things don't happen.

They were assisted just like China. You don't understand or know that. We have to do it ourselves.

Easy when you can invest in development when some one else has your back. Defense is expensive.
Honestly not comparing India to anything, just mentioned how I want good products for my hard-earned money. I think you have some presumptions and biases. I know we have to do stuff ourselves, but that doesn't mean we suddenly start becoming liars, cheats, and scammers. Either way, it's a futile discussion. Reality is inevitable and we can both witness it in real time.
 
Honestly not comparing India to anything, just mentioned how I want good products for my hard-earned money. I think you have some presumptions and biases. I know we have to do stuff ourselves, but that doesn't mean we suddenly start becoming liars, cheats, and scammers. Either way, it's a futile discussion. Reality is inevitable and we can both witness it in real time.
Why don't you ask how I'm so confident?

To the point where i know to ignore anyone who bashes make in India.

I want more to learn so they don't blindly buy into these negative narratives.
 
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Why don't you ask how I'm so confident?

To the point where i know to ignore anyone who bashes make in India.

I want more to learn so they don't blindly buy into these negative narratives.

I didn't ask cuz I ignore it too and fight when people make illogical arguments against it. I am not bashing make in India, that has been in everyone's mind from even before the independence. And I think we are all adults here to not buy into narratives. Ok granted some have arguments for argument's sake but most people are sane (at least I hope).

Anyway, let's keep the thread clean before someone brings up a specific policy, handout, bailout, bills, party, PM etc.

cuz as Mark Twain once said and I quote

"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's"
 
I think you have some presumptions and biases.
It's working in the defense sector. Just one example, Artillery for example is majority indigenous. If you can get this working in crtical areas then I'm not losing sleep because some widget made here can't compare to one in China.

No presumption or biases. What is happening right now and ten years hence will be much further along.

15 years back you couldn't imagine what we have today. Everyone who bashes it needs to look at areas where its working. Not much publicity about it. This all you need to call out doubters.
I know we have to do stuff ourselves, but that doesn't mean we suddenly start becoming liars, cheats, and scammers. Either way, it's a futile discussion. Reality is inevitable and we can both witness it in real time.
How long can cheaters get away. At some point they will get called out. If not then they have protection which is a different matter.
 
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It's working in the defense sector. Just one example, Artillery for example is majority indigenous
NK has mastered that too & much earlier & better than India. Modern artillery is not rocket science, the basics are known since first world war.

No presumption or biases. What is happening right now and ten years hence will be much further along.

15 years back you couldn't imagine what we have today. Everyone who bashes it needs to look at areas where its working. Not much publicity about it. This all you need to call out doubters.
Yes it will be much further along but also much further behind China & US at that time. 15 years back that is somewhere around 2009, at least whatever I expected came to be realised now & at that time I didn't expect to leave behind or even catching up to China & the same view I hold today for the next 15 years. Without the radical fundamental reforms in land, labour & bureaucracy sector the "make in India" will remain a laggard with some successes mixed in between.

I won't post anymore on this here for being off topic so start a new thread or wait for some mod to move these posts to a new thread.