Action Camera Discussion.

[solo_wing]

So I got a message from a member asking for a suggestion on action camera.
Since I have used quite a few thought why not open a discussion and put my points and hear from other users too.

Here it goes...

Firstly let's understand few things. There are 3 major players in Action Camera for high end users - GoPro, DJI and insta360.

( Some brands have tried too like Garmin ,Sony etc but they are not as popular as the above 3 and bit of effort is required to get hold of them).

Also here are some cheap budget action camera like -Xiaomi Yi ( which no longer makes I believe but some of their old version might still be available), Sjcam is another brand that still makes and they are getting not so bad reviews too .


So here is my take...If you are looking for action camera.

First ask this question to your self .

what exactly is it going to be used for? Is it, just for making home and family memories.? Or are you a person who will be doing some vlog or motovloging ?
Or are you very adventurous person do some serious outdoor activities in tough environment?

Above questions will help you get to choose a good action camera that is neither overkill nor a poor choice.

As the options today in the market is crazy. It's becoming like a mobile phone industry.

Now let me tell you some of the clear pros and cons of the one I have experienced.

I have Used Yi action camera, GoPro 7, 12, go pro Max. DJI OA3 and DJI OA2.

Let me share what are the pros and cons j have noticed in GoPro , DJI and insta360( not used so cannot add much but still have little something to add based on reviews and friends using it).

GoPro
Pros - Stabilization ( I genuinely thing GoPro has best stabilization among all three). Its not a big gap but about 10-20%. ,
GoPro warranty service specially if you buy their subscription plan($50). Absolutely best. They will replace your broken GoPro without a single question asked or single penny.
Plus unlimited cloud service for GoPro footage.

Cons -> poor touch screen response. It is little unresponsive at times...which is not acceptable in today's time. It's not bad but like out of 10 times 4 times you will be pressing the screen 2-3 times for it to register your choice.

Poor performance for night footage. Specially when DJI and Insta360 has bought night shooting to quite a decent start. Specially insta360 with ace pro.

Battery charging still takes 2 hrs. So you will have to carry quite a few extra battery if you going to shoot over long period .

DJI.
Pros- crazy battery back up. Best in class. It can go for as long as 2 hrs video recording or atleast 1.30 mins with 4k . Which is insane.
Plus the battery charges from 0%-80% in just 20 mins. That's just amazing. You can just go for entire outdoor activities with just one battery or max 2 battery.

( DJI OA4) Decent night footage. Not exactly much usable but still easily better than GoPro but below Insta360.

Great touchscreen response. Both front and back.

Cons - I am not impressed with DJI stabilization in footage as much as GoPro . Again it is not bad at all but I feel it falls shorter than GoPro in stabilization.
I can't compare it with insta 360.

Chinese apps. This is more personal I would say. I don't like giving access to Chinese apps. You cannot even start DJI action camera without some of the permissions.

Another Chinese manufacturing related issue... I feel they lack proper quality control when they release their stuff.
Look at both DJI OA2 and DJI OA3...both had issues during their initial launch. It took many firmwares and even DJI giving away free case for DJI OA2 to control the heat dissipation.

With DJI OA4 I have not heard anything like that much but its like taking a bit of chance if buy them early.

I dont like DJI app to edit videos . I feel it's worst out of all 3.

Insta360.
I honestly have very little to add here.
But based on reviews on YouTube and seeing some friends footage.
I feel they are happy with it and this new Ace pro has really impressed most people...but I have seen some genuine youtubers also saying that there is bit focus soft issue with Insta360 ace pro.


One thing I feel that Insta360 has best software app for editing your videos. Very easy and fun to work with.


That is it for general pros and cons from all three major players.

Let's talk about
Image quality.
It only makes sense to talk about this generation( DJI OA4, GOpro 12, Insta360 ace pro)

They way I see it...I feel all three are great. I have noticed that it's bit hard to choose the perfect specially for day videos as all 3 can outperform each other in certain environment.
Like DJI has more natural colours whereas GoPro really has vivid colours ..insta360 ace pro with AI processor can outperform both too in certain scenarios.


So as far as video image quality goes ...all 3 will not disappoint you. It just boils down to more personal choice of How you would like your video.

Btw if you are going to shoot many night time or low light footages...just go for insta360 ace pro.




Now which one should you go for ..

If your budget
5k-15k - first try looking for second hand ones for GoPro 7, 8 etc if not check Sjcam and others and decide if it is worth going for .
Because remember one thing though.
It is much easier to resale GoPro, DJI and Insta360 compared to these Sjcam and all.
As you will literally have to sell it for throwaway price to recover some part of your investment.


15k-20k...this is where you may find GoPro 8 or even GoPro 9 during sale. Otherwise
Dji OA2 is already going for 15k powercombo version.
So between this budget your choices are much better.

20k-25k- GoPro 10 /11, DJI OA3 should not be hard to get it for this price and they really good action cameras.

30k-40k. Under this budget . You can literally choose to go for latest and best ones in the market.

50k-60k ... This is where right now DJI Pocket 3 is the king . With 1 inch sensor it is becoming the best gadget of the year. The footage specially of the night is mind blowing.
But but this exactly is not an action camera. It is quite a delicate gadget compared to real action cameras which can take a beating easily and also be waterproof.

But I am still mentioning here because for normal vlog at indoors or normal outdoor activity and if you are a careful person . You will not find anything better than this in the market.



Now let's talk about 360 camera.
Currently we have only GoPro Max and Insta360 X3 .
Both are great and other than Insta360 app being more easier to use . The quality of both camera are very much in par and some feel insta has better image and some feel GoPro Max has better image but it is hardly a big difference to debate .
Just check some YouTube videos and decide for yourself.
I have not used Insta360 X3 but friends have and I could not make out much difference out of them . Infact I feel GoPro Max is very slight a bit better but Insta360 has little better hdr.

Again both slight difference. You can go for any of the two.

Hope all the above info helps.
I tried my best to share whatever I have learned and experienced using these action cams.

Would be nice if other members can add a thing or two about their experiences with the brands and their choices.

 

[logistopath]

what exactly is it going to be used for? Is it, just for making home and family memories.? Or are you a person who will be doing some vlog or motovloging ?
Or are you very adventurous person do some serious outdoor activities in tough environment?

Nice info. Can you try to answer this question that you had posed? I don't vlog or motvlog. But I do go on treks. Which one would you suggest for this use case? Ideally, I would like to record some sort of time-lapse video of my trek.

 

[ibose]

It would also be useful to compare these to the Gimbals for Mobiles.

 

[solo_wing]

Nice info. Can you try to answer this question that you had posed? I don't vlog or motvlog. But I do go on treks. Which one would you suggest for this use case? Ideally, I would like to record some sort of time-lapse video of my trek.

I really enjoy doing time lapses too.
Infact have done hundreds of time lapses videos on all that I owned and have right now.

If you are doing day time timelapse...both DJI ( OA3) and GoPro 12 will not disappoint you. (Not used others so not feel right to comment)

GoPro 12 might actually be more interesting as 8:7 aspect ratio and 5.3k resolution gives you more choices to shoot timelapse.

Plus it has good options for night timelapse too like star trails and normal night lapse.


Now if you want a motion like timelapse...you can use 360 camera like GoPro Max or there is something very interesting what I have started to do .

I use a egg timer thing with my DJI OA2 and let it rotate slowly to give 360 motion time lapses.

Here check this out.( Pic attached).

You will need a very light weight action camera for that though because when I tried same with GoPro 12 or DJI OA3 ..it's weight was not allowing the egg timer to rotate.

Btw for night footage for GoPro 12 you will need it to attach it to power bank . The main battery will not even give you more than 2-3 seconda of footage as it is done through long exposures.

Generally speaking most action camera of upto even 2 generation back with 4k will give you great timelapse footage.

Just that latest ones have added more choices for timelapse like cloud, people, light trails etc.

It would also be useful to compare these to the Gimbals for Mobiles.

I have seen many vloggers actually going around with mobile phone and gimbal and they have done great job too. It all comes to down skill level in the end.

People can still create magic with GoPro 7. Which is almost 5 years old.

These people with gimbal and mobile Even making food videos, gear videos and even marriage videos.
And mobiles phones can really capture great quality videos too specially for quick social media content.

For me personally though Gimbal setup is a hassle and it adds weight and also it's quite a hassle to carry around .

I love the durability of gopros and dji action cams.
They can really take some serious beating and still work flawlessly for years to come.

It is a better long term investment in my opinion compared to mobile phone + gimbal.

 

[solo_wing]

One suggestion that I forget to add on OP when considering buying an action camera. I have suggested upon low budget, Mid-budget and even for people having no budget issues.

but I was going through some of my old videos and some of the most beautiful places I had been and some amazing things I have experienced ....but my videos were not exactly great because of the cheap Budget Action camera I was using those days . Though it still anytime better than not having at all.

So my point is try to buy a good one instead of cheap ones because even though money is a factor for many of us....the memories you going to capture is priceless. So think about that too.

Having a Good quality action camera is a good investment in long run especially when you sit someday watching your old videos.

 

[jdp861]

Looking to buy an action camera.
I am thinking of buying DJI Action 3 or 4.

I would like to know if Action 4 is really worth 10k more.
What am i missing?
Also, do suggest me a microphone to pair with the camera.
Also, how is the night time video?

 

[ibose]

Please post in this existing thread -

Action Camera Discussion.

So I got a message from a member asking for a suggestion on action camera. Since I have used quite a few thought why not open a discussion and put my points and hear from other users too. Here it goes... Firstly let's understand few things. There are 3 major players in Action Camera for high...

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@solo_wing

 

[solo_wing]

Looking to buy an action camera.
I am thinking of buying DJI Action 3 or 4.

I would like to know if Action 4 is really worth 10k more.
What am i missing?
Also, do suggest me a microphone to pair with the camera.
Also, how is the night time video?

Go through this topic.

Action Camera Discussion.

So I got a message from a member asking for a suggestion on action camera. Since I have used quite a few thought why not open a discussion and put my points and hear from other users too. Here it goes... Firstly let's understand few things. There are 3 major players in Action Camera for high...

techenclave.com

It should answer most of your doubts.



Can you Help me with what is your main purpose to get an action camera? it will help me suggest you something right for you. ( I am no expert but still have owned most of the action camera from many brands)
Right now DJI Osmo Pocket 3 is the best out there even for the night time videos on it are absolutely amazing.

Insta360 Pro Ace is great too for nighttime but DJI Pocket 3 is king.

Only issue is Dji Pocket 3 is bit delicate and if someone needs for some serious activity . It is easy to break it with just one fall. Plus its not waterproof so taking videos in rain and all might be another risk.

DJI Osmo action 4 is a great camera. Night footage is average. Usable but not close to the above 2 mentioned.

 

[jdp861]

I am planning to use it to record bike rides and myself too. Basically to record myself travelling.

Please post in this existing thread -

Action Camera Discussion.

So I got a message from a member asking for a suggestion on action camera. Since I have used quite a few thought why not open a discussion and put my points and hear from other users too. Here it goes... Firstly let's understand few things. There are 3 major players in Action Camera for high...

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@solo_wing

How do i move it there?

 

[solo_wing]

I am planning to use it to record bike rides and myself too. Basically to record myself travelling.

For Bike rides Buy any of the 360 action camera.
Preferrably Insta 360 X4. which is latest.

The reason I am saying this is because You will be able to capture great footage from All angles.

You will not regret trust me. but if you still want to stick to normal action camera with good night time footage.

Go for Insta360 ace pro or even DJI OA4 is great choice but its night time is little above average. Where as Insta360 night footage is much better.

How do i move it there?

Itna power hum log ko nahi diya gaya abhi tak only Mods will do it. And you need to request them.

 

[jdp861]

For Bike rides Buy any of the 360 action camera.
Preferrably Insta 360 X4. which is latest.

The reason I am saying this is because You will be able to capture great footage from All angles.

You will not regret trust me. but if you still want to stick to normal action camera with good night time footage.

Go for Insta360 ace pro or even DJI OA4 is great choice but its night time is little above average. Where as Insta360 night footage is much better.


Itna power hum log ko nahi diya gaya abhi tak only Mods will do it. And you need to request them.

I was thinking of buying an action camera (probably action 3 as its cheaper too)and see how well and often i use it. If it works out well then later add a 360 camera.
As, I don't want to splurge right now.

From what i know from Internet is that action 4 has a bigger sensor but still it's night time footage is not usable. So was wondering if should spend money on it.
Ace pro also has same sensor size as action 4 and is even more expensive than action 4.

I would like to buy pocket 3 in future. I absolutely love it. But currently i can't find some money for it. It's too expensive for me right now.
I want to try this hobby without splurging much.

Also, who knows i might start a youtube channel( hello dosto aaj hum ghumege manali ki sadko par )


@Crazy_Eddy can you move this thread to the above mentioned thread please.

 

[atg666]

One suggestion that I forget to add on OP when considering buying an action camera. I have suggested upon low budget, Mid-budget and even for people having no budget issues.

but I was going through some of my old videos and some of the most beautiful places I had been and some amazing things I have experienced ....but my videos were not exactly great because of the cheap Budget Action camera I was using those days . Though it still anytime better than not having at all.

So my point is try to buy a good one instead of cheap ones because even though money is a factor for many of us....the memories you going to capture is priceless. So think about that too.

Having a Good quality action camera is a good investment in long run especially when you sit someday watching your old videos.

Any brands your could recommend just 1 step beyond the usual 3 (DJI, Insta360 and Gopro)?

I plan to use it for bike rides (both bicycle and motorcycle). Obviously cannot justify 40-50k for just recording rides.

 

[solo_wing]

I was thinking of buying an action camera (probably action 3 as its cheaper too)and see how well and often i use it. If it works out well then later add a 360 camera.
As, I don't want to splurge right now.

From what i know from Internet is that action 4 has a bigger sensor but still it's night time footage is not usable. So was wondering if should spend money on it.
Ace pro also has same sensor size as action 4 and is even more expensive than action 4.

I would like to buy pocket 3 in future. I absolutely love it. But currently i can't find some money for it. It's too expensive for me right now.
I want to try this hobby without splurging much.

Also, who knows i might start a youtube channel( hello dosto aaj hum ghumege manali ki sadko par )

DJI OA3 is good purchase too if you can find at reasonable price but try to look for a really good price.
You mentioned 10k difference which does not sound a good deal to me.

If you wish to own 360 at reasonable price. Check my thread on TP regarding GoPro max. It might interest you.

Any brands your could recommend just 1 step beyond the usual 3 (DJI, Insta360 and Gopro)?

I plan to use it for bike rides (both bicycle and motorcycle). Obviously cannot justify 40-50k for just recording rides.

I honestly don't follow any other brands other than these 3.
I did own Xaomi and they were good for the price back in those days.

Why don't you go for second hand action camera from these 3 brands. They are much better if you can find good price.

 

[jdp861]

DJI OA3 is good purchase too if you can find at reasonable price but try to look for a really good price.
You mentioned 10k difference which does not sound a good deal to me.

Dji OA3 goes for 22k and OA4 for 32k at amazon.

 

[solo_wing]

Dji OA3 goes for 22k and OA4 for 32k at amazon.

Don't go for standard combo.
Go for adventure combo of you can.

Having extra batteries is always a good plan.

If I was in your place. I would look for good second hand deals.

 

[prime]

Go through this topic.

Action Camera Discussion.

So I got a message from a member asking for a suggestion on action camera. Since I have used quite a few thought why not open a discussion and put my points and hear from other users too. Here it goes... Firstly let's understand few things. There are 3 major players in Action Camera for high...

techenclave.com

It should answer most of your doubts.



Can you Help me with what is your main purpose to get an action camera? it will help me suggest you something right for you. ( I am no expert but still have owned most of the action camera from many brands)
Right now DJI Osmo Pocket 3 is the best out there even for the night time videos on it are absolutely amazing.

Insta360 Pro Ace is great too for nighttime but DJI Pocket 3 is king.

Only issue is Dji Pocket 3 is bit delicate and if someone needs for some serious activity . It is easy to break it with just one fall. Plus its not waterproof so taking videos in rain and all might be another risk.

DJI Osmo action 4 is a great camera. Night footage is average. Usable but not close to the above 2 mentioned.

How is DJI Osmo OSMO POCKET 2 to start with? Available at Flipkart for 23.5 (even lesser with card discounts)?

No specific requirements, just want to have one for occasional travels. Don't want to risk my mobile phone while traveling.

https://www.flipkart.com/dji-osmo-pocket-2-sports-action-camera/p/itmb498a8bc39ff2

BTW, can someone identify which one is this in the attached pic?

 

[kalph09]

That looks like Osmo Pocket 1 with lightning connector extended out. It allowed a phone attachment as a bigger preview screen.

I had a short stint with osmo pocket 1. It was a decent alternatives to using conventional gimbal and phone. It suffered badly under low light.

 

[solo_wing]

How is DJI Osmo OSMO POCKET 2 to start with? Available at Flipkart for 23.5 (even lesser with card discounts)?

No specific requirements, just want to have one for occasional travels. Don't want to risk my mobile phone while traveling.

https://www.flipkart.com/dji-osmo-pocket-2-sports-action-camera/p/itmb498a8bc39ff2

BTW, can someone identify which one is this in the attached pic?

If you not going to risk your mobile phone then even this is not for you. As this is even more delicate than mobile phone.

Which is why lot of people even going gaga over DJI Pocket 3 still continue using action cameras.

You will never find more durable than a proper action camera. They can really take a decent beating.

This will need really good care.

As for product itself...Rs 23k sounds pretty decent but I have never used it. However, A very decent guy I met over a deal on camera on OLX even bought his DJI Pocket 2 and I asked him how is it. He said its okay but nothing great and he too said it is quite a delicate thing so he has to keep carrying bag and all for it.



My advice go for proper action camera if durability and risk is a reason.

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A very decent deal for Gopro 10 if you have HDFC tata nenu card.

Rs 17500 approx.

Please note that this camera is great with footage and all but it has flaws too so kindly do your own research and if you require my opinion on pros and cons.

Feel free to ask
Deal of the day for Prime Members: insta360 Ace - 4K120Fps Waterproof Digital Zoom Action Camera, 1/1.2" Sensor with Ai Noise Reduction, Active HDR Video, 48Mp Photos, 2.4" Flip Screen, Easy Magnetic Mounting & Advanced Ai Features. https://amzn.in/d/08Nw9KpM

This with card discount comes to about Rs 23700.

This action camera is comparible to GoPro 11&12.

So worth taking a look
@envira @prime

 

[prime]

If you not going to risk your mobile phone then even this is not for you. As this is even more delicate than mobile phone.

Which is why lot of people even going gaga over DJI Pocket 3 still continue using action cameras.

You will never find more durable than a proper action camera. They can really take a decent beating.

This will need really good care.

As for product itself...Rs 23k sounds pretty decent but I have never used it. However, A very decent guy I met over a deal on camera on OLX even bought his DJI Pocket 2 and I asked him how is it. He said its okay but nothing great and he too said it is quite a delicate thing so he has to keep carrying bag and all for it.



My advice go for proper action camera if durability and risk is a reason.

Buy GoPro Hero10 5.3K and 23MP 60 FPS Waterproof Action Camera with Touch Screen (Black) Online – Croma

Buy GoPro Hero10 5.3K and 23MP 60 FPS Waterproof Action Camera with Touch Screen (Black) online at best prices from Croma. Check product details, reviews & more. Shop now!

www.croma.com

A very decent deal for Gopro 10 if you have HDFC tata nenu card.

Rs 17500 approx.

Please note that this camera is great with footage and all but it has flaws too so kindly do your own research and if you require my opinion on pros and cons.

Feel free to ask
Deal of the day for Prime Members: insta360 Ace - 4K120Fps Waterproof Digital Zoom Action Camera, 1/1.2" Sensor with Ai Noise Reduction, Active HDR Video, 48Mp Photos, 2.4" Flip Screen, Easy Magnetic Mounting & Advanced Ai Features. https://amzn.in/d/08Nw9KpM

This with card discount comes to about Rs 23700.

This action camera is comparible to GoPro 11&12.

So worth taking a look
@envira @prime

Thank you for your reply and suggestions. Very useful indeed.

 

[envira]

Thank you @solo_wing bro. Your insights are really helpful. I will checkout the insta 360. Seems like a decent option.