Discuss - Reservations in 2007

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I am not against reservations.... you reserve 25% of seats totally for FINANCIALLY POOR people!!! I will support this wholeheartedly!!!

But making reservations just for the sake of caste is ridiculous!!!
 
to add to the reservation issue here...... hmm ..we got reservations in BMS too...

first comes the caste, then SC/ST, OBC, management quota...

there are 120 seats in bms for every year(three year course).. and in most of the top colleges only about 20-30 seats max are available to the general category! i know a lot of people who got more then 70 marks and who didnt get admission in a college of thier choice.. wat a shame.... they rather choose to do bcom...sheesh. waste of all the hardwork. and maybe a future ambani or tatal lost in the midst of nowhere :(

..and i actually agree with Undertaker's post.. wherein he says that its time for a civil war... well ya not exactly a civil war but a war nevertheless!

ya the gov is doing something terribly wrong... and ya ppl are protesting.. but whats more imp is the protest's continue.. we dont have to be shiv saniks to put our point across..

a non-voilent approach maybe more practical.. but as everyday passes and mroe and more striking docs fall ill due to hunger.. makes me wonder.. were the britishers more humane then the indian gov itself??

they left our country mainly due too a non violent approach led by bapu..

could it be done again? could another revolution be sparked off for a better india? or is it that we are all too timid to write our thoughts and vent our anger in places which dont matter to most of the common public? or are we gonna do something abt it?
 
a non-voilent approach maybe more practical.. but as everyday passes and mroe and more striking docs fall ill due to hunger.. makes me wonder.. were the britishers more humane then the indian gov itself??
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hmmm

well the diff between then and now is that the majority then was with bapu bur the same can't be said about now. the IMA itself has had a split on caste lines and anyway upper caste (unfortunately logic has been left behind and its now become totally caste based) are nowhere near a majority
 
While I may have used strong words that may offended people(which I sincerely regret), my words ought to be viewed keeping in mind that I amd I am sure all of us are totally helpless in this regard.
I was watching TV at the same time and a certain OBC was shouting 'Tilak,Taraju aur Talwaar....jute chaar.....' that sparked me off.....
 
thats more like it :)

thats why i said go and have a cool off.. everyone is angry. you should know how to vent your anger.

so you are sorry for your posts and won't repeat them in future(which means not abusing people in future) say you are and i will remove your ban :)
 
safin ,a valid request please since u hv edited undys post plz edit those quotes of undertaker that hv been used by other members during the conversation. it doesnt look nice,. this is fr ne mod , gmod, or admins .

and no i m not 1 of them..........
 
XTerminator said:
What about Govt Colleges in Mumbai...I sure do hope they recall the 50% crap...
Its totally useless. A 35% reservation is still overkill but 50% is totall uncalled for.
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This one's only for IIM/IIT's for now...
 
Safin said:
thats more like it :)

thats why i said go and have a cool off.. everyone is angry. you should know how to vent your anger.

so you are sorry for your posts and won't repeat them in future(which means not abusing people in future) say you are and i will remove your ban :)
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Whatever way u put it, I am sorry that I offended people here, mosy of 'em my fellow "Edited" ;)

Places in India have close to 80% reservation guyz, we are close to becoming third-class citizens here: our votes don't count, even if all of us voted Congress and SP will give more illegal "Edited" immigrants voter cards to make up for it.Infact, Safin ,I have to say in response to ur 'Are u a first class citizen in US?',both Republican and Democrats hear Indian (most of 'em upper caste Hindus again) voices, important senators visit Indian-American meetings so first class or not, when(hopefully) I have a golden eagle on my passport I shall know that my an 'equal' citizen.None of us can say the same for India.

First-class citizen is a relative term in America , btw, u r not first class if u r white and happen to be in a black neighborhood!

And yes I shall refrain from posting my radical thoughts, however correct they may be, here , to keep the peace.
 
both Republican and Democrats hear Indian (most of 'em upper caste Hindus again) voices, important senators visit Indian-American meetings so first class or not, when(hopefully) I have a golden eagle on my passport I shall know that my an 'equal' citizen.None of us can say the same for India.
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i would have a lot to say on that but not on this topic here,,

Whatever way u put it, I am sorry that I offended people here, mosy of 'em my "Edited".
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can't you say a simple i am sorry for my posts statement :lol: lol and hear you told me no more political discussion and you still induging in that ;)
 
Safin said:
i would have a lot to say on that but not on this topic here,,
can't you say a simple i am sorry for my posts statement :lol: lol and hear you told me no more political discussion and you still induging in that ;)
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Its civilized and the thread isn't locked.;) The solution as I said is not to allow such threads so that the peace is not disturbed by radicals like me.:rofl:
And I did say I'm sorry for the right reasons , not the wrong ones.:D
PS: I shall not any more on political topics for my views , however correct they may be are bound to cause concerns and conflicts.Peace out.
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And I may add that I have a beef with anyone calling me 'Undy', that pisses me off no end.
 
[Mod]Closing thread for now.

I dont know what is bad the reservation policy or guys in this thread saying lets parade a lady naked for demanding reservation.

This whole debate is bringing the worst in us which cannot be healthy for any country. We all need to take a step back & rethink on how we can express our thoughts without being deragatory to communities involved.

If we cant do that - then i request such folks to not post in this thread as it spoils the healthy debate which might otherwise take place on TE.

We at TE do not decide our Government's Polity or have any take on what it enforces - so stop using this forum as means to vent out your anger on persons or communities concerned.

So as & when we reopen the thread please make sure you choose your words more carefully.

Would open after i clean all the uncalled for posts.[/mod]

Update : Thread re-opened. Remember the onus is on you to keep TE clean.
 
on a more serious note, i m planning to reduce my TE visits coz i only chance which i hv is the jan aipg 07, so time to study, coz once these quotas r on in 07, i stand no chance....... it ll b hard i know, wid net just beside my study table but still ll give it a try..... lets c ......btw i m on te more than 12 hrs or more a day even if i m not postin ..gotta reduce that.....

regards

abhijeet
 
chic_magnet said:
..and i actually agree with Undertaker's post.. wherein he says that its time for a civil war... well ya not exactly a civil war but a war nevertheless!

a non-voilent approach maybe more practical.. but as everyday passes and mroe and more striking docs fall ill due to hunger.. makes me wonder.. were the britishers more humane then the indian gov itself??
they left our country mainly due too a non violent approach led by bapu..
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The fact is that the british never bothered too much about non-violent protests. The only reason they left india was due their own bankruptcy in the world war 2, and was getting too costly to manage the country which was already sucked out of money for 200 years at a stretch and nothing much was left to suck out more. They had got their fill, and they got out. It's a grim reality..but yes..that's the fact. Non-violent protests mean jack. Waste of time. Look at the example of Russia - a huge civil war took place, the local people exterminated the entire royal family which was nothing but a huge burden on the people. The entire country got under Marxist communist regime. Tables turned in one night.

I am not condoning the idea of exterminating the entire congress/UPA alliance member team, but it could mean a civil war. This country needs one badly. Its high time.
 
Deleted it b4 mods did it.

U know the saddest part of it all- the Nehru family was actually a Kashmiri Brahmin family.

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Mod Edit : Btw, the right word is Kashmiri Pandit's.
 
Pandit and Brahmin are one and the same,neither is right or wrong!I know something about my own caste!

And my quixotic views aside, it is the yadavs and the jats who really brutalize the real sc/sts(eg. the chamars) in the rural areas , much more than the Pandits and the Thakurs!
 
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