michelin made a mistake , i dont think they should penalise the teams for that. only thing that should have been done was to annouce in advance that they all would not be running instead of grandstanding and pulling out at the last minute and pissing everyone off.QuickFire said:
tat was done for the sake of rules. if they hadn't done the installation lap or warm-up lap, the race was as good as cancelled. Now that they have followed the rules frm head to toe, FIA wont be able to take any action against them coz its their decision if they wish to run their car or not. the reason being driver's safety is too big to be ignored.bottle said:only thing that should have been done was to annouce in advance that they all would not be running instead of grandstanding and pulling out at the last minute and pissing everyone off.
Welcome Mr. beastTheMask said:i missed all the action here.. too bad.. looks like QF n SN have gone into hiding now.. is it b'coz the beast is lurking around?
QuickFire said:tat was done for the sake of rules. if they hadn't done the installation lap or warm-up lap, the race was as good as cancelled. Now that they have followed the rules frm head to toe, FIA wont be able to take any action against them coz its their decision if they wish to run their car or not.
QuickFire said:I believe ferrari cud have helped in this matter.
In identical letters to the seven team bosses published by the FIA on Tuesday, Formula One’s governing body, who has summoned the teams to appear before the World Motor Sport Council next Wednesday, listed a number of charges.
The charges given are that, according to the FIA, each team:
• failed to ensure that they had a supply of suitable tyres for the race
• wrongfully refused to allow their cars to start the race
• wrongfully refused to allow their cars to race, subject to a speed restriction in one corner which was safe for such tyres as they had available
• combined with other teams to make a demonstration damaging to the image of Formula One by pulling into the pits immediately before the start of the race
• failed to notify the stewards of their intention not to race, in breach of Article 131 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations.
Article 131 states: "The starting grid will be published four hours before the race. Any competitor whose car(s) is (are) unable to start for any reason whatsoever (or who has good reason to believe that their car(s) will not be ready to start) must inform the stewards accordingly at the earliest opportunity and, in any event, no later than 45 minutes before the start of the race.â€
The FIA told the teams they will be sent a full dossier of the charges within the next 24 hours and invited them to send any comments they should have in writing prior to their meeting with the Council in Paris on June 29.
Nikhil said:AAAHHH!!!!
FINALLY!!!!
Funky, Wraith!!! Where the hell were you??? I was fighting a lone crusade aginst the anti-Ferrari brigade!!!
I agree with you perfectly. And remember what MS said at the final press conference abt the incident at Imola??? Check ym previous posts.
geek_rohit said:Sorry for being late Nikhil...
Ferrari isn't a tyre manufacturer, then why is it to be blamed. The thing is that the other teams dun like Ferrari coz they have been beating them convincingly for the past half a decade. Some interesting points were made by some members. Esp the comment that McLaren risked running Kimi and then he ultimately crashed, is a BIG proof that all this was crap. Michelin didn't do the homework and to keep that in the backseat they created this BIG hoopla. Now in the next race some team may say that our cars are not suitable for this or that circuit, pls remove it from the calender. Or maybe they may even say that Monaco is a very narrow circuit so pls remove it from the calender. Whatever might have been the reason for the tyre prob, Michelin should have given the choice to the teams whethere they wish to race or not. Now where does Ferrari come into the picture. They did the right thing. They practiced and had a setup for the normal track, and if hey would have modified the track then they would have to change the setup and to do that in such a short notice is not possible. So why should Ferrari or the Bridgestone shod teams suffer because of Michelin's fault. How can Michelin take FIA for ride. They have to follow the rules and not FIA has to make rules acc to them. Enough said. And all those who are saying crap for Ferrari are just angry coz Ferrari got points in the race, what else did u expect? They too should have entered the pits? And give away the points just coz Michelin doesn't know how to provide safe tyres? Ferrari is a professional team and they did he RIGHT thing.
peace.....
Yeah I did mean 14 drivers a typo from my side, anyways me celebrating Schumi's win and Ferrari's return in whatever circumstances et al !Nikhil said:DUDE!!!
There are only 10 teams in F1.... from where did you get 13 teams runningMichelin?? I think you mean 14 drivers.......
Official BMW Website said:BMW realigns its Formula One involvement.
Munich, 22nd June 2005. BMW is striking out on a new path in Formula One. After acquiring a majority shareholding in the Swiss Sauber team, a BMW managed team will be contesting the Formula One World Championship as early as 2006. This was decided by the BMW Board of Management on Tuesday. It means that, for the first time in company history, BMW will be competing independently in Formula One.
Jean Todt said:He insisted that Ferrari did not veto the chicane proposal as it was not even consulted about it – not that consultation would have made any difference to its position.
“We would not have agreed, but we were never asked about it,†said Todt.
“Is it serious to decide to put in a chicane in half an hour with nobody testing it?
“It’s ridiculous.â€
Todt suggested that if it had been Ferrari and Bridgestone in trouble, none of the other teams would have come to their aid.
“If, for example, we don’t have enough grip for qualifying and we ask for three laps because we have good grip after the third lap; or if we ask for a chicane because we think it would be safer for our tyres, I think everybody would laugh at us,†he said.
“Honestly, why should we compromise?â€