41-50k Gaming plus software rig , please help out with your advice .

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ALPHA17 , chiragsthakur , cyberwarfare , Jakob
Guys need to buy the rig this week or max to max by next monday , failed to find anything in the market section , so thinking of buying it new .
So need help in finalizing things .
Here is the config I ve thought of , please shed your thoughts on it and also point out a replacement if you feel my choice is inferior to the one you have in mind .
1.Processor : i5 3570k or 2500k depends on prices .
2.Motherboard : Asus Maximus V Gene or Gigabyte G1 sniper M3 .
3.Ram : Corsair 2 x 2gb .
4.HDD : 1Tb , does an SSD really help in gaming ? . Have read mixed reviews , so again confused about it .
5.Cabinet : NZXT gamma or Corsair 400R . Is the gamma a big compromise because of budget ? . Or it does have good cooling ? .
400R stretches budget a bit but then if gamma isnt upto the cooling task then will go for 400R .
You got any other cabinet in mind which is good in cooling in this segment .
6.PSU : Now am really confused about this , you suggest please . Will 750W suffice if I go for an SLI in the future or will need 850 W . Am not even thinking of SLI at the moment but may be if I need in the future , dont wanna be in a situation where I have to buy a new PSU again .
7. Cooler : Thinking of buying in the future , After reading a lot I realized that overclocking aint something magical , it costs money in terms of power usage .
So am thinking if I dont buy a cooler , will stock i5 3570k heatsink will be potent enough ? . Also even are the temps with stock cooler safe for long life ? . Am going to keep this rig for a really really really long time , yeah kept my P4 till it could no longer cope up , approx 8 yrs . But the processor is still working like new , awesome piece of engg but then it wasnt doing the work the modern processors do .
8. Fans : 2-3 good non led case fans , i hate LEDs .
A good balance between being cheap and silent and performance . I dont know much about fans .
Add something you find missing , except GPU:sleep:.
Thanks for your time

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edit : choosing a k series processor so that I can overclock later on if i feel the need to .
 
harry_houdini said:
ALPHA17 , chiragsthakur , cyberwarfare , Jakob

Here is the config I ve thought of , please shed your thoughts on it and also point out a replacement if you feel my choice is inferior to the one you have in mind .
1.Processor : i5 3570k or 2500k depends on prices .
2.Motherboard : Asus Maximus V Gene or Gigabyte G1 sniper M3 .
3.Ram : Corsair 2 x 2gb .
4.HDD : 1Tb , does an SSD really help in gaming ? . Have read mixed reviews , so again confused about it .
5.Cabinet : NZXT gamma or Corsair 400R . Is the gamma a big compromise because of budget ? . Or it does have good cooling ? .
400R stretches budget a bit but then if gamma isnt upto the cooling task then will go for 400R .
You got any other cabinet in mind which is good in cooling in this segment .
6.PSU : Now am really confused about this , you suggest please . Will 750W suffice if I go for an SLI in the future or will need 850 W . Am not even thinking of SLI at the moment but may be if I need in the future , dont wanna be in a situation where I have to buy a new PSU again .
7. Cooler : Thinking of buying in the future , After reading a lot I realized that overclocking aint something magical , it costs money in terms of power usage .
So am thinking if I dont buy a cooler , will stock i5 3570k heatsink will be potent enough ? . Also even are the temps with stock cooler safe for long life ? . Am going to keep this rig for a really really really long time , yeah kept my P4 till it could no longer cope up , approx 8 yrs . But the processor is still working like new , awesome piece of engg but then it wasnt doing the work the modern processors do .
8. Fans : 2-3 good non led case fans , i hate LEDs .
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Here are my thoughts.
  • Processor: Go for the newer generation Core i5 as far as possible, but do not think that this RIG will last you 8 years. Chips and associated paraphernalia release at a bi-annual frequency now a days.
  • Motherboard: Totally your call although I am biased towards the ASUS offerings.
  • RAM: Get G.Skill RIPJAWS 1600MHz 4GB x2 kit now, else later who knows what will happen and this is going to be the least expensive component overall -->3600/- [for 2 x4GB modules].
  • SSD: Does not really improve the game performance except for the load times. Although overall usability is much improved, the interface feels snappier and responsive.
  • Cabinet: Stick to the Corsair Carbide 400R OR if it is stretching you to the bone, go for the Bit Fenix Outlaw APAC edition ~3900/-. Contact these chaps --> XTREME GRAFIX | Where Indian Gaming Is Rendered
  • SMPS: I keep telling you, a multi-GPU setup is a bane for long runs, keeping their drivers upto-date as well as the power requirements for the same are just too cumbersome in my opinion. Want a good solution, go for an easy-over-clock capable card (from the mid-range) use it for ~4 years and get a new card then. That will also mean a 650W SMPS will be more than capable. In your case these are the models I suggest -- Corsair TX v2650W / 750W OR Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W.
  • Cooler: As long as you are not over-clocking the PC the stock heat-sink should hold out. So this is fine. Just remember depending on the cabinet you get now your options of coolers will be decided.
  • Fans: Check these options from DeepCool http://www.techenclave.com/techxtreme/deepcool-cooling-products-131187/#post1638722 OR if you can wait Corsair plans to unleash its own line-up of fans here in India. Noctua is there but very expensive.

Hope this answers your queries, Cheerio!
 
1.Depending on how your budget holds off but try to get 3570K+Asus Maximus V GENE
3.Gskill RipjawsX 2X4GB-3.6k is what you'd get.Corsair XMS3 would be good too.
4.Segate 1TB OR WD Blue 1TB.SSD won't help much in gaming.
5.Corsair 400R is what you'd get considering your budget.
6.Corsair TX750V2 is good enough for SLI/Crossfire.You'd get that if you're going to do crossfire.If not then Corsair TX650V2-5.5k is good enough.
7.CM Hyper 212 EVO-2.2k OR Noctua NH U12P SE2-4k if you're going over 4ghz
Hope this helps.:)
harry_houdini said:

Guys need to buy the rig this week or max to max by next monday , failed to find anything in the market section , so thinking of buying it new .
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harry_houdini said:
ALPHA17 , chiragsthakur , cyberwarfare , Jakob
Guys need to buy the rig this week or max to max by next monday , failed to find anything in the market section , so thinking of buying it new .
So need help in finalizing things .
Here is the config I ve thought of , please shed your thoughts on it and also point out a replacement if you feel my choice is inferior to the one you have in mind .
1.Processor : i5 3570k or 2500k depends on prices .
2.Motherboard : Asus Maximus V Gene or Gigabyte G1 sniper M3 .
3.Ram : Corsair 2 x 2gb .
4.HDD : 1Tb , does an SSD really help in gaming ? . Have read mixed reviews , so again confused about it .
5.Cabinet : NZXT gamma or Corsair 400R . Is the gamma a big compromise because of budget ? . Or it does have good cooling ? .
400R stretches budget a bit but then if gamma isnt upto the cooling task then will go for 400R .
You got any other cabinet in mind which is good in cooling in this segment .
6.PSU : Now am really confused about this , you suggest please . Will 750W suffice if I go for an SLI in the future or will need 850 W . Am not even thinking of SLI at the moment but may be if I need in the future , dont wanna be in a situation where I have to buy a new PSU again .
7. Cooler : Thinking of buying in the future , After reading a lot I realized that overclocking aint something magical , it costs money in terms of power usage .
So am thinking if I dont buy a cooler , will stock i5 3570k heatsink will be potent enough ? . Also even are the temps with stock cooler safe for long life ? . Am going to keep this rig for a really really really long time , yeah kept my P4 till it could no longer cope up , approx 8 yrs . But the processor is still working like new , awesome piece of engg but then it wasnt doing the work the modern processors do .
8. Fans : 2-3 good non led case fans , i hate LEDs .
A good balance between being cheap and silent and performance . I dont know much about fans .
Add something you find missing , except GPU:sleep:.
Thanks for your time

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edit : choosing a k series processor so that I can overclock later on if i feel the need to .
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ok, i will try breaking this down bit by bit. as a note, i am unaware of the latest product prices, so excuse my mistakes if any :)

1)3570k only and only if the price diff is <1500INR AND you dont plan on pushing the oc to >4.5GHz
2)Maximus V Gene over G1 Sniper as it costs more
3)Ran seems ok, but make sure to get atleast a 1600MHz cl9 or cl10 kit
4)YES, an ssd makes all the difference, not only in game load times, but in say to day useage as well.
5)I would say 400r. or you could wait for the corsair vengeance c70. should come in at the same price point. an in depth review can be found at hardwarebbq.com
6)750w is good for anything less than equal to 670 sli. 680sli and above will need more power, especially when the cpu is overclocked
7)if you go IVB then cooler is a must. it touches 105c even at stock on the stock cooler. search youtube and you shall see what i mean.
8)Cm has some nice non-led fans. have a look.
9)once again, i cannot under value how much of a difference an ssd makes. more than sli and oc'd cpu put together. TRUST ME ON THAT.

hope i could help out harry :)
 
ALPHA17 said:
Here are my thoughts.
  • Processor: Go for the newer generation Core i5 as far as possible, but do not think that this RIG will last you 8 years. Chips and associated paraphernalia release at a bi-annual frequency now a days.
  • Motherboard: Totally your call although I am biased towards the ASUS offerings.
  • RAM: Get G.Skill RIPJAWS 1600MHz 4GB x2 kit now, else later who knows what will happen and this is going to be the least expensive component overall -->3600/- [for 2 x4GB modules].
  • SSD: Does not really improve the game performance except for the load times. Although overall usability is much improved, the interface feels snappier and responsive.
  • Cabinet: Stick to the Corsair Carbide 400R OR if it is stretching you to the bone, go for the Bit Fenix Outlaw APAC edition ~3900/-. Contact these chaps --> XTREME GRAFIX | Where Indian Gaming Is Rendered
  • SMPS: I keep telling you, a multi-GPU setup is a bane for long runs, keeping their drivers upto-date as well as the power requirements for the same are just too cumbersome in my opinion. Want a good solution, go for an easy-over-clock capable card (from the mid-range) use it for ~4 years and get a new card then. That will also mean a 650W SMPS will be more than capable. In your case these are the models I suggest -- Corsair TX v2650W / 750W OR Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W.
  • Cooler: As long as you are not over-clocking the PC the stock heat-sink should hold out. So this is fine. Just remember depending on the cabinet you get now your options of coolers will be decided.
  • Fans: Check these options from DeepCool http://www.techenclave.com/techxtreme/deepcool-cooling-products-131187/#post1638722 OR if you can wait Corsair plans to unleash its own line-up of fans here in India. Noctua is there but very expensive.

Hope this answers your queries, Cheerio!
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1.Thanks , no I dont expect this to last more than 2 generations , approx of 4 years i guess .
2. Only prefer Corsair PSU . But am confused about ratings , even bronze says above 80 , silver above 80 , gold above 80 , hence its said 80 plus i read .
But almost all rate efficiency at 85 % . So whats the difference then if the efficiency +/- 5 % from each other ? .

3. Its ok i can add another 1k if the cabinet is that worth it above that 400R .
4. Thanks , those DeepCool Fans seem affordable .
5. Ok I got your point :) about power consumption and all , and guess you are right at that ! .
The problem is GPUs are not able to cope with some offerings in games already , so might be the future I might need to , anyways your point about power does scare me . So guess a single gpu is best option always .
Whats your opinion about the 660ti :head2: ?
6. I already have 8gb sniper rams , wont those do in the new rig ? . I dont see any use in overclocking rams , after reading , i feel overclocking rams does not yield that much .
My current HTPC has hardly ever gone about 3 gigs . So was looking for a 4gb for it .
Jakob said:
1.Depending on how your budget holds off but try to get 3570K+Asus Maximus V GENE
3.Gskill RipjawsX 2X4GB-3.6k is what you'd get.Corsair XMS3 would be good too.
4.Segate 1TB OR WD Blue 1TB.SSD won't help much in gaming.
5.Corsair 400R is what you'd get considering your budget.
6.Corsair TX750V2 is good enough for SLI/Crossfire.You'd get that if you're going to do crossfire.If not then Corsair TX650V2-5.5k is good enough.
7.CM Hyper 212 EVO-2.2k OR Noctua NH U12P SE2-4k if you're going over 4ghz
Hope this helps.:)
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1. Thanks , have any other suggestion for cabinets ? .
2. is CM hyper really worth that much ? . I ve read it only allows mild over clocks .

cyberwarfare said:
ok, i will try breaking this down bit by bit. as a note, i am unaware of the latest product prices, so excuse my mistakes if any :)

1)3570k only and only if the price diff is <1500INR AND you dont plan on pushing the oc to >4.5GHz
2)Maximus V Gene over G1 Sniper as it costs more
3)Ran seems ok, but make sure to get atleast a 1600MHz cl9 or cl10 kit
4)YES, an ssd makes all the difference, not only in game load times, but in say to day useage as well.
5)I would say 400r. or you could wait for the corsair vengeance c70. should come in at the same price point. an in depth review can be found at hardwarebbq.com
6)750w is good for anything less than equal to 670 sli. 680sli and above will need more power, especially when the cpu is overclocked
7)if you go IVB then cooler is a must. it touches 105c even at stock on the stock cooler. search youtube and you shall see what i mean.
8)Cm has some nice non-led fans. have a look.
9)once again, i cannot under value how much of a difference an ssd makes. more than sli and oc'd cpu put together. TRUST ME ON THAT.

hope i could help out harry :)
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Thanks
1. I wont overclock much , atleast not now , currently 3570k can handle all games at stock right ? and doesnt really bottleneck any GPU , 660ti or 7870 ? .
2. Sniper costs 11.5 k , Gene costs 16 k :( , so what would be your suggestion now ? . The main advantage of gene I feel would be the great driver support as it is a very famous board , not sure about the sniper , i cant infer anything from its reviews .
3 . Cas latency = CL right , I ve read high performance rams have somewhat lesser life . Is it really true ? .
4. Hope c70 comes out till this week :p .
5. I wont go for a 670 , mostly 660ti , as Alpha17 said , but a bit of a overclocking card , so if 660ti wont be a good overclockers then 670 it is .
6. There are unlimited fans out there , sadly I dont know properly how to even read the specs , also I read fans make different kinda noises , tik tik tik , kir kir kir , whoosh :p , saw on a video on youtube .

You inspire me man :sign11: , yea I trust you . SSD it is :scared14: .
Now which 128Gb SSD , you guys tell me . I was thinking of the Intel 520 120Gb SSD .

Thanks again for your brief replies .

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Edit : So suggest Cooler and SSD and fans , etc .
 
harry_houdini said:
1.Thanks , no I dont expect this to last more than 2 generations , approx of 4 years i guess .
2. Only prefer Corsair PSU . But am confused about ratings , even bronze says above 80 , silver above 80 , gold above 80 , hence its said 80 plus i read .
But almost all rate efficiency at 85 % . So whats the difference then if the efficiency +/- 5 % from each other ? .

3. Its ok i can add another 1k if the cabinet is that worth it above that 400R .
4. Thanks , those DeepCool Fans seem affordable .
5. Ok I got your point :) about power consumption and all , and guess you are right at that ! .
The problem is GPUs are not able to cope with some offerings in games already , so might be the future I might need to , anyways your point about power does scare me . So guess a single gpu is best option always .
Whats your opinion about the 660ti :head2: ?
6. I already have 8gb sniper rams , wont those do in the new rig ? . I dont see any use in overclocking rams , after reading , i feel overclocking rams does not yield that much .
My current HTPC has hardly ever gone about 3 gigs . So was looking for a 4gb for it .
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Harry here are your answers --
  • Efficiency of the SMPS: The higher the efficiency rating, the higher the temperatures and load settings. For our usage Bronze OR Silver rated SMPS are more than enough. So I suggest you stick to the Corsair TX v2 series. If you can shell out more do so for a HX650W a modular SMPS, this will carry a lot more advantages over a higher efficiency rated SMPS.
  • Go for the Corsair Carbide 400R, it is a better buy and they have a better after sales net in India. Bit Fenix is a relatively new offering and the Outlaw intrigued me much, hence suggested you the same.
  • Dude until and unless you do not want to run The Witcher 2 with über Sampling turned on, any AMD HD78** series equivalent and above card will hold good for the coming 4 years. Heck the HD5850 is going strong since 2009. The GTX660Ti is the card to get Sire but over-clocking is going to be a royal pain, in a weird sort of coup the AMD HD7*** series cards are much easier to over-clock and can be pushed quite far without fiddling with any of the voltages. I think nVidia's aggressive Turbo-binning has done them in on this count.
  • The SNIPER RAM modules will do fine, no need to add more RAM then. Although keeping the future in mind, 8GB for ~3600/- seems a steal. Get 8GB RAM minimum that is what I mean and if that means a few of your DIMM's are vacant, nothing quite like it.
  • SSD: Get either of these -- Crucial M4 128GB ~8900/-; OCZ Vertex4 128GB ~8000/-; Corsair Force GT 120GB ~8200/-. You can get them from here -- 120GB SSD | 120GB SSD Price | Buy 120GB SSD.
  • Cooler: Depending on how much you want to push the chip, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO can be adequate OR merely a stop-gap measure; for pushing the chip anywhere over ~4.0 GHz best you get something beefy like the Thermalright Silver Arrow. As you are inclined to over-clocking later best would be that you wait for those days to come and spawn a new thread for the new requirement.
Hope this helps, Cheerio!
 
@ALPHA17
1. Thats strange and sad , 660ti isnt overclocking well :scared14: . Saw some reviews where it was even getting close to 7950 .
Thats awesome but it cant overclock much :( .
2. Intel had a better warranty hence was looking for intel . Initially was inclined to the OCZ vertex4 but then where is the OCZ rma , hard to find .
3. You really think silver arrow is worth it ? . How is your noctua u12p ? . Was leaning towards noctua for better quality , but still silver arrow seems too good except that its a headache to install .
Another thing about cooler is I ve read some place and dear friend @cyberwarfare also shares the view that hanging some 1.2 kg things from the mobo isnt good .
I havent really heard of any mobo suffering any damage myself , but is it a probem .
4. Now now , if there is a cooler , there is a paste . I ve an MX-2 but I dont think its that good .
Which waste would you suggest ? . Tuniq or Arctic or something ? .
@chiragsthakur
Thanks and check pm
 
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1)ok then the 3570k it is
2)if the price diff is so much then i find it hard not to suggest the GB board, personally i dont like the green color
3)no such thing, ram has the same life expectancy
4)in a fan be sure to look for a low DB rating. max should be around 30 ish.
5)get the vertex4. at that price its a complete win. and with the newer firmware it it just as good as the crucial m4
6) a 750w is more than enough for you :). even a good 650w will do jst fine.
7)cooler wise i say get an h80. i know it costs more, but it is worth it in every way.
 
harry_houdini said:
@ALPHA17
1. Thats strange and sad , 660ti isnt overclocking well :scared14: . Saw some reviews where it was even getting close to 7950 .
Thats awesome but it cant overclock much :( .
2. Intel had a better warranty hence was looking for intel . Initially was inclined to the OCZ vertex4 but then where is the OCZ rma , hard to find .
3. You really think silver arrow is worth it ? . How is your noctua u12p ? . Was leaning towards noctua for better quality , but still silver arrow seems too good except that its a headache to install .
Another thing about cooler is I ve read some place and dear friend @cyberwarfare also shares the view that hanging some 1.2 kg things from the mobo isnt good .
I havent really heard of any mobo suffering any damage myself , but is it a probem .
4. Now now , if there is a cooler , there is a paste . I ve an MX-2 but I dont think its that good .
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  • There is always a catch Harry, you cannot have everything and nVidia has compromised on home-brew over-clocking by aggressively binning for higher Turbo-clocks [auto-clocking] feature. Take it OR leave it, your choice. Also note that as the resolutions breaches ~1080p barrier it is AMD all the way with astounding leads, this because of AMD's EyeFinity technology.
  • I think Prime values its customers and as onlyssd.com is their spin-off with a focus on SSD's I think you will be covered. Same with Crucial, about Intel drives I find for the reliability factor the premium attached is too much. But in the end I leave the choice to you.
  • Yep, 100%. It can go toe-to-toe with the Noctua NH-D14. The NH-U12P SE2 is also a fine cooler but thanks to smaller fans and concurrently lower CFM temperatures will jump up by ~5° C. If that is acceptable you can go for the NH-U12P. Apart from that I think any cooler which is tipping scales close to ~1.5kg is going to be a pain to install in the cramped environs of a cabinet. Until it doesn't feature a removable motherboard tray.
    If you manhandle the installation procedure and do not set-up the cooler properly on its mount, even a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is enough to pull out a socket area from the motherboard.
  • Actually as long as you apply the paste optimally you will not notice a great performance difference, a maximum deviation of ~1° -->2° C is what the temperature probes might perceive. The major difference is the longevity of the application. Metal-base pastes have an edge here over Silicon-base pastes as they can stay on for literally years OR as long as the contact between the two surfaces is not disturbed. Silicon-based pastes dry up within 6 -->8 months and need regular cycles of reapplication and reseating of the heat-sink.
    Pastes you can consider -- SVG Tech Thermag v1, Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400, Arctic Silver 5 and TuniQ TX-2 / 3 / 4.

Hope this answers your queries man, Cheerio!
 
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cyberwarfare said:
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5)I would say 400r. or you could wait for the corsair vengeance c70. should come in at the same price point. an in depth review can be found at hardwarebbq.com
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hope i could help out harry :)
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Brotha ... the C70 costs a B*O*M*B ..... Rs 22,634/- Corsair Vengeance Series C70 High Airflow Arctic White Mid-Tower Case CC-901101 | eBay .... WTF...... Bloody HELL ... It is supposed to be $139 (the same as Carbide 500R) - which sells for Rs 6600/-

I do not see the C70 listed anywhere else in India
 
cyberwarfare said:
That is a bullshit price. It is yet to launch here. My friend tells me it will similarly priced to the 400r.
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If you would have looked at the details you wouldn't be ranting like this .. It clearly mentions that it is an IMPORT item which has to come through cart2indiaonline.

Let the product be available at the local store and if your luck you'll get your price quoted for.
 
abracadabra said:
If you would have looked at the details you wouldn't be ranting like this .. It clearly mentions that it is an IMPORT item which has to come through cart2indiaonline.

Let the product be available at the local store and if your luck you'll get your price quoted for.
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im not ranting my friend. the guy above me is. im merely stating a fact.
 
@ALPHA17 , @cyberwarfare , @Jakob , @chiragsthakur
Thanks for the reply guys ,

Here is the raw list
1. i5 3570k
2. Corsair 2 x 2Gb ram
3. SSD , liked the OCZ very much with 5 yr warranty but no RMA visible anywhere in India , dont know if prime does help in that case . So still Intel SSD is on mind , thought of Corsair for warranty but guess corsair doesnt perform well like the intel and ocz counterparts .
4. Corsair TX750v2 or HX650 , similar pricing .
How much warranty does the HX650 have ?. Is it 7 years like abroad or 5 years ? .
5 . Two options : a. Gigabyte G1 sniper M3 + 400r + H100
b. Asus V gene + Nzxt gamma + Thermalright Silver arrow / DH-14 ---> depends on price .
Can't go for the best in everything because of budget , so between those two or some other combo that you can think of .
I know the gamma gets too cramped , guess even the 400R gets cramped because of the huge cooler highly hampering air flow , so what is my way to tackle that ? .
Another thing I thought was H80 with the gamma , am not sure if gamma fits the H80 and after seeing the price difference in H80 and H100 , H80 doesnt really make sense .
I guess its for those who already have a case and not capable of a long rad .

6. Paste : AS5
7. Fans : No idea .
@cyberwarfare ,
bro not a huge difference of a cost in H100 and H80 , so I guess H100 is preferable .
Also HX 650 deliver clean power to the H100 right ? . So no pump issues right ? some cases are all over the net .

Thanks for your time .
 
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harry_houdini said:
ALPHA17 , cyberwarfare , Jakob , chiragsthakur
Thanks for the reply guys ,

Here is the raw list
1. i5 3570k
2. Corsair 2 x 2Gb ram
3. SSD , liked the OCZ very much with 5 yr warranty but no RMA visible anywhere in India , dont know if prime does help in that case . So still Intel SSD is on mind , thought of Corsair for warranty but guess corsair doesnt perform well like the intel and ocz counterparts .
4. Corsair TX750v2 or HX650 , similar pricing .
How much warranty does the HX650 have ?. Is it 7 years like abroad or 5 years ? .
5 . Two options : a. Gigabyte G1 sniper M3 + 400r + H100
b. Asus V gene + Nzxt gamma + Thermalright Silver arrow / DH-14 ---> depends on price .
Can't go for the best in everything because of budget , so between those two or some other combo that you can think of .
I know the gamma gets too cramped , guess even the 400R gets cramped because of the huge cooler highly hampering air flow , so what is my way to tackle that ?
Another thing I thought was H80 with the gamma , am not sure if gamma fits the H80 and after seeing the price difference in H80 and H100 , H80 doesnt really make sense .
I guess its for those who already have a case and not capable of a long rad .

6. Paste : AS5
7. Fans : No idea .
cyberwarfare ,
bro not a huge difference of a cost in H100 and H80 , so I guess H100 is preferable .
Also HX 650 deliver clean power to the H100 right ? . So no pump issues right ? some cases are all over the net .

Thanks for your time .
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You are drawing up a pretty decent rig Harry however you still have nagging doubts about ......

The H80 or H100 would be cramped up in the Gamma. In fact even on the Corsair 400R the H100 is a drawback ..... this is where Corsair got back to the drawing board and re-designed the inherent flaws of the 400R and came up with the 500R - see Corsair Carbide 500R review (go through the entire review)..... I quote
We recently reviewed the Corsair Carbide 400R, a mid-tower chassis that came out surprisingly well, offering good features for a fair price. With the Carbide series Corsair entered a more mainstream market, and as we all know that means a cheaper product often resulting in stripped away features, style and functionality. But the 400R most certainly did not disappoint.

Being a somewhat mainstream chassis you could say a thing or two about airflow IF you plan all kinds of hefty hardware components in the chassis though.

With that in mind Corsair went back to the drawing board and improved that 400R model towards an updated SKU, the 500R. They added more meshed vents, a new 200 fan was added, a three step fan controller and tweaked the overall design a little as well with removable and relocatable hard drive cages allowing you to even insert a 452mm in length graphics card
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The 500R is priced at Rs 6.7K (that's 1.7K more than the 400R) - however it compensates in many areas for the additional cost + if you like "White" - the looks are also fantastic (Here I would love to have the opinions of ALPHA17; Jakob & others too). Some may feel that the 200mm included fan is not too great or that the wire-mesh adjacent to this large fan enables dust to be sucked in ........... however users on newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139010
have praised this case over the 400R..... And at the other end of course is the NZXT Switch 800 ....... a modders fantasy cabinet (the only negative thing is the price at Rs 10.6K)

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cyberwarfare said:
That is a bullshit price. It is yet to launch here. My friend tells me it will similarly priced to the 400r.
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Agreed .... IT is a bulls@#$ price .... BUT it stays at that & the only reasons that I can think why it's quoted as such ..... extremely low availability around the world (the C70 is making News & created a new excitement in the gaming communes ..... some are even thinking of painting it further with Military Stripes aka WWII portable radio-transmitters)..... see the Military Green Version http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1929/3/ ; It's a direct-import & lastly it "weighs a tonne" (fully Steel cabby !!!

abracadabra said:
If you would have looked at the details you wouldn't be ranting like this .. It clearly mentions that it is an IMPORT item which has to come through cart2indiaonline.

Let the product be available at the local store and if your luck you'll get your price quoted for.
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Let's pray & hope it stay's in the price range of the 500R in India ...... (whenever it comes) .... @6.5 - 7K
 
@terence_fdes
Thanks a lot Sir for your contribution , please do add in the future , I would have been shocked after buying the 400R to find that it is cramped for even H100 .
Its a bit shocking considering they are Corsair coolers .
If I had to spend that much on a cabby , would have gone for the 600T or CM .
Switch isnt to my liking .
Thanks again .
 
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Hey harry_houdini .... the 400R per-se is a fantastic cabinet (In fact the BEST in it's price range) .... It's only when one wishes to plan or dream ahead in desiring certain options (keeping ALL FUTURE OPTIONS OPEN) ........ like adding a H100 & modding it for the GPU too :scared14: see pg 169 of the link below; adding many-many more fans; going SLI - duo/quad; shifting/removing the two drive cages ....... In fact check this out [Official] Corsair Carbide Series [300R/400R/500R] Owners Club
to see how scores of 300R/400R/500R owners have gone berserk in modding & improvising these cabby's.
 
@terence_fdes
Thanks ,
No sir I would never modify a cabinet , if I want it that badly , I would wait for some more time and buy a better one . Those people are enthusiasts and hobbyists , so they do it .
Am not so excited about modifying a cabinet and besides not much experienced either .
So can the 500R house the H100 nicely in push pull ? .
And btw where did you get that price from ? .
Thanks again .
 
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h100 is preferred if you can spare the xtra cash. i say go ahead with option5.b along with the h80. the hx650 or tx750 wont have any problem with the h100 or h80 pump.
and yes, the 400r can easily take on the h100, just not in push , pulll. honestly, it wont even matter.
 
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