41-50k Gaming plus software rig , please help out with your advice .

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harry_houdini said:
Hi thanks brother ,
well the reference 660ti does not support over-volting and hence no overclocking or minimal overclocking .
And most non - reference cards have the same story except some like the MSI power edition , there is also a Zotac card which is rumoured to be a " speed king " .
MSI have added and external electrical/electronic component ( sorry am not so good in electronics ) which allows over-volting and hence overclocking which gives performance = an overclocked reference GTX 670 ( now I dont understand what this means really ) but its supposed to be good.
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Harry, the moot point of this release is the fact that it is a 'soft' launch; their are no reference cards provisioned by nVidia but all the cards reviewed are third-party offerings with performance and components specifications on paper equivalent OR exceeding nVidia's paper on the GTX660Ti. The more over-clocked the base edition of the card, the more you pay for it and the lesser you can over-clock the same.

Another thing I noticed is that in almost all over-clocks for the Kepler cards is that they need a lot of voltage tweaking to reach stability and a really substantial over-clock that lifts their performance, not the case with comparable AMD HD79** / 78** series cards who are happy on the stock voltages and can take bumps of upto ~100MHz -->200MHz. This I attribute to the aggressive binning for Boost-clocks on the former and definitely it did not matter a whole lot in the GTX670 / 680 but for a budget series card like the GTX660Ti this is a bummer. They claim it to be a better buy than the GTX670 and HD7950 but in the longer run the elder cards will perform better thanks to the larger and spatially laid memory bandwidth [in GTX670's case] and huger memory buffer [in the AMD's case]. And again the pricing of the GTX660Ti is so horrendous in India, I see no reason to go for it.

About the cabinet and the CPU cooler, what is your total budget for these after all the expenditure of the rest of the build?
 
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Yay ! I received my i5 3570k from flipkart :yahoo: . Opened up the box and the processor looks beautiful , I am overjoyed :yahoo: .
The heatsink aint too beautiful . The contact area already have many visible scratches around the round copper thing .
The copper round thing also have a few scratches , thou the paste is ok , except for a few dots on it . Is this something to worry about or are stock heatsinks supposed to be like this with scratches and all ? . Also there is some squarish mark on the processor like someone already applied some paste before , is it because of testing before packing .
Am a bit scared that it could be a used thing .
Even after cleaning with a micro- fiber cloth and liquid , its not going that squaring mark .

Pardon me because I havent bought a processor since 8 years now and when I did last time , I did not touch it at all .

So please clear my doubts .
 
@harry_houdini congrats, I am ever so happy for you.

Yeah that mark never goes, it is heat and the prolonged contact of the two components [stock thermal-pad + copper base]. At-least now you know , why we never recommend the stock cooler for anything but the most rudimentary setups. The insipid looking things does not even inspire the slightest confidence that it is capable of cooling the processors.
 
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ALPHA17 said:
harry_houdini congrats, I am ever so happy for you.

Yeah that mark never goes, it is heat and the prolonged contact of the two components [stock thermal-pad + copper base]. At-least now you know , why we never recommend the stock cooler for anything but the most rudimentary setups. The insipid looking things does not even inspire the slightest confidence that it is capable of cooling the processors.
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Thanks a lot my dear friend , you are on of the biggest contributors and I will always be thankful to you , saving some thanks as more things are left :bleh: .

So nothing fishy right ? . My processor is new or it is used ? . Am a bit scared :(
You can be truthful , i wont have a heartattack :unsure:
 
harry_houdini said:
Thanks a lot my dear friend , you are on of the biggest contributors and I will always be thankful to you , saving some thanks as more things are left :bleh: .

So nothing fishy right ? . My processor is new or it is used ? . Am a bit scared :(
You can be truthful , i wont have a heartattack :unsure:
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It is brand new Harry, no need to worry.

As I said it is like a small scar, the mark is there because of the continual contact between the thermal-pad and the copper-surface. Yo will never find this in third-party cooling kits because they never have a thermal-pad OR pre-applied paste on them.
 
ALPHA17 said:
It is brand new Harry, no need to worry.

As I said it is like a small scar, the mark is there because of the continual contact between the thermal-pad and the copper-surface. Yo will never find this in third-party cooling kits because they never have a thermal-pad OR pre-applied paste on them.
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Thanks friend ,
now need to decide on other components , can only buy next week as got some other things to do :(
Can't wait to get my hands on this thing , quad core monster .
Its a bit strange , the stock heat sink is quite heavy and looks functional and still does not perform at all , anyways I aint gonna use it so no big deal to me , was only scared of the processor .
I ll do some more digging and finalize the components , ofcourse wont buy without asking you guys .

Cheers :yahoo:

PS : sorry for the dancing smileys , I feel happy like a small kid .
 
harry_houdini said:
Its a bit strange , the stock heat sink is quite heavy and looks functional and still does not perform at all , anyways I aint gonna use it so no big deal to me , was only scared of the processor.
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Harry, wait till the day you get a third-party monster. You will redefine the heavy aspect of the stock cooler.

Dance away my friend, even I had the same situation when I got my current RIG, okay not quite same because I got it at 2000 Hours at night and after dinner spent ~3 -->4 hours figuring out how to install the Cooler Master Hyper 212+.
 
ALPHA17 said:
It is brand new Harry, no need to worry.

As I said it is like a small scar, the mark is there because of the continual contact between the thermal-pad and the copper-surface. Yo will never find this in third-party cooling kits because they never have a thermal-pad OR pre-applied paste on them.
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I guess there is some confusion , there is a square kinda mark on the processor chip surface . Like a scar , not the stock cooler but the chip surface , the silver surface .
 
Hey congrats on the rig,Hope you won't have any trouble soon,When are you getting other components.
harry_houdini said:
ALPHA17 , Jakob , cyberwarfare , chiragsthakur , terence_fdes , ampdr1

Yay ! I received my i5 3570k from flipkart :yahoo: . Opened up the box and the processor looks beautiful , I am overjoyed :yahoo: .
The heatsink aint too beautiful . The contact area already have many visible scratches around the round copper thing .
The copper round thing also have a few scratches , thou the paste is ok , except for a few dots on it . Is this something to worry about or are stock heatsinks supposed to be like this with scratches and all ? . Also there is some squarish mark on the processor like someone already applied some paste before , is it because of testing before packing .
Am a bit scared that it could be a used thing .
Even after cleaning with a micro- fiber cloth and liquid , its not going that squaring mark .

Pardon me because I havent bought a processor since 8 years now and when I did last time , I did not touch it at all .

So please clear my doubts .
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Jakob said:
Hey congrats on the rig,Hope you won't have any trouble soon,When are you getting other components.
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Thank you sir , you have also helped a lot .
Planning to buy other components on Tuesday , asked Mr Chirag for a quote but he seems busy , so just waiting patiently , anyways gotta buy on Tuesday :) .
Choosing the processor was comparatively easier , but choosing the components is like hell . I am doing my own digging so that I narrow out on some things so you guys can easily suggest .
 
harry_houdini said:
Thank you sir , you have also helped a lot .
Planning to buy other components on Tuesday , asked Mr Chirag for a quote but he seems busy , so just waiting patiently , anyways gotta buy on Tuesday :) .
Choosing the processor was comparatively easier , but choosing the components is like hell . I am doing my own digging so that I narrow out on some things so you guys can easily suggest .
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Waiting for Abhay to answer that scar kinda thing on my CPU , or might be its a thermal paste used while testing or something .
Am sorry , just a bit scared and excited and stuff . Never thought will buy such an expensive processor ! .
 
Scared already:P,No need to worry it's nothing,Where are you from in mumbai?
harry_houdini said:
Waiting for Abhay to answer that scar kinda thing on my CPU , or might be its a thermal paste used while testing or something .
Am sorry , just a bit scared and excited and stuff . Never thought will buy such an expensive processor ! .
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BIKeINSTEIN said:
HH, post clear pics of what you are scared of. Pics will help your helpers decide. :)
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yes if possible pics from at least 2 angles so that the "scarface" would be seen ;) .... WOW and congrats harry on the 3570K (how much did u pay for it from flipkart ?)

You could also list the remaining components that you have zeroed upon - ( double-check with folks out here at TE ) ..... and get-set onto a wonderful journey

Cheers
 
harry_houdini said:
Am a bit scared that it could be a used thing .
Even after cleaning with a micro- fiber cloth and liquid , its not going that squaring mark .

Pardon me because I havent bought a processor since 8 years now and when I did last time , I did not touch it at all .

So please clear my doubts .
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when you received the package, was the CPU box seal broken? if not, then there should not be any problem....

some users also suggest to preserve those boxes for future warranty issues, if any.... though i don't know whether it will of any use, lets see what our experts say about it...

so what about mobo+RAM+SMPS ?

as i mentioned earlier ripjaws X series and most other RAMS are optimized for sandy bridge based CPU, though there will not be any compatibility issue with ivy bridge.... will that make any difference in performance for our usage, i doubt....
only newer version RAMs (like Trident series of gskill) sport XMP version 1.3 and do mention to be optimized for 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gen Intel CPUs....
 
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This is a trial low resolution pic , trying to upload a high resolution pic .
I dont even have a half a decent camera , so trying to scan it through my scanner :sleep: .
If you all see the mark is clearly visible on the upper right hand side , of the processor .
 
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