90K+ Gaming RIG

[OMEGA44-XT]

Sure, because its fun to throw money around, especially when its not yours. Maybe you missed the part where OP mentioned that they'd pay for the build with EMIs.

I'm not sure why OP went beyond their initial budget of 120k by adding 4070Ti or considering 4080.

My opinion is that you should never buy a PC on loan, it is a leisure device, so save & buy. This doesn't apply if you earn money via stuff done on your PC, in which case it can be an investment.

Still, my point remains that 2k is not a big deal for someone willing to spend 100k+, considering you get almost proportional improvement in performance.

 

[stegian]

When spending 100k+, 2k price increase is not much. Surely difference will be like 2%, but you are paying 2% extra only.

Yes absolutely

 

[avroneelbiswas]

Single core performance.

X CPUs have been programmed to hit 95C temp on load & try to achieve as high of a freq as possible (will vary a bit based on binning as no 2 CPUs of same model are same). Check the pics I attached to see difference in performance & power draw between 7600X stock & 7600 stock. PBO is kind of OC from AMD, use that if you want. So overall, non X CPUs are better for most. Sure X CPUs are better binned & might result in +50MHz over non X CPU for same power draw. Also, you can always put a limit on X CPU to change behaviour from hitting 95C, 105W ECO mode of AMD is excellent for simple limitation, you can undervolt & customise the power limits if you want.

I mean, if you can extend your budget to get 4070Ti or 4080, why not.

PSU - 650W is enough for 4070, 750W for 4070Ti & 850W for 4080 IMO
Keep some headroom. A higher-rated PSU won't continuously draw the mentioned power, so even if you pair 4070 with 850W PSU, it will only draw from wall the power it needs.

Gold rated PSUs are recommended. 850W gold like XPG core reactor for 8.6k or NZXT C850 for 9.3k are excellent choices, are tier A PSUs. XPG core reactor 750W at 7.5k is good for 750W.

The price difference between 4070ti and 4080 is vast. You mentioned low-tier PC. I will play games on max 1080. I am not planning to play on 2K or 4K very sooner. I mostly play FIfa, COD, Medal of Honor, Hitman series, and MaxPayne kinds of games.

I am not someone who plays Cyberpunk 77 and all. I will play PUBG and COD online tbh. So, is there any other GPU that can be recommended which won't require such high pricing but yes again will they be worth buying in 2023?

I have no plan to upgrade or rebuild the PC for at least 5-6 years if not more. Please be informed, I want to make sure that my PC can run every FIFA games every year until 2028 at least. And I also want to make sure that it can run Photoshop, Ms office, Excel, etc.

 

[rockyo27]

The price difference between 4070ti and 4080 is vast. You mentioned low-tier PC. I will play games on max 1080. I am not planning to play on 2K or 4K very sooner. I mostly play FIfa, COD, Medal of Honor, Hitman series, and MaxPayne kinds of games.

I am not someone who plays Cyberpunk 77 and all. I will play PUBG and COD online tbh. So, is there any other GPU that can be recommended which won't require such high pricing but yes again will they be worth buying in 2023?

I have no plan to upgrade or rebuild the PC for at least 5-6 years if not more. Please be informed, I want to make sure that my PC can run every FIFA games every year until 2028 at least. And I also want to make sure that it can run Photoshop, Ms office, Excel, etc.

If u can go used route then get 3070 at or around 22-23k if new then try 4060 or 4060ti i guess but will be costly afaik.

 

[OMEGA44-XT]

The price difference between 4070ti and 4080 is vast. You mentioned low-tier PC. I will play games on max 1080. I am not planning to play on 2K or 4K very sooner. I mostly play FIfa, COD, Medal of Honor, Hitman series, and MaxPayne kinds of games.

I am not someone who plays Cyberpunk 77 and all. I will play PUBG and COD online tbh. So, is there any other GPU that can be recommended which won't require such high pricing but yes again will they be worth buying in 2023?

I have no plan to upgrade or rebuild the PC for at least 5-6 years if not more. Please be informed, I want to make sure that my PC can run every FIFA games every year until 2028 at least. And I also want to make sure that it can run Photoshop, Ms office, Excel, etc.

Get RX 6650XT for 25k or 6750XT for 34k, choose based on your budget. Sadly both AMD & Nvidia have very bad budget products, esp below RX 6600. At that point, look at used ones.

You were the one considering 4070Ti & all. Check my 2nd post in this thread where I listed 3 rigs. I didn't go beyond 4070 or RX 6800 for the 100/120k budget you mentioned.

 

[avroneelbiswas]

Get RX 6650XT for 25k or 6750XT for 34k, choose based on your budget. Sadly both AMD & Nvidia have very bad budget products, esp below RX 6600. At that point, look at used ones.

You were the one considering 4070Ti & all. Check my 2nd post in this thread where I listed 3 rigs. I didn't go beyond 4070 or RX 6800 for the 100/120k budget you mentioned.

Want to avoid Raedon, any Nvidia GPU?
I am planning for the following spec, let me know what you think. I am going with a better Mobo ( MSI - Tomahawk)

CPU - Ryzen 5 7600
Mobo - MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi
Ram: GK Skill Trident Z Neo CL30
SSD- Kingston KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
GPU - Undecided
Cooler: DeepCool LS520 SE or EK 240mm AIO D-RGB All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler

 

[DestGod]

Want to avoid Raedon, any Nvidia GPU?
I am planning for the following spec, let me know what you think. I am going with a better Mobo ( MSI - Tomahawk)

CPU - Ryzen 5 7600
Mobo - MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi
Ram: GK Skill Trident Z Neo CL30
SSD- Kingston KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
GPU - Undecided
Cooler: DeepCool LS520 SE or EK 240mm AIO D-RGB All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler

The games that you mentioned on playing dont require high end hardware like these, so spending this much for simple tasks is not necessary (unless you want the latest and best). FIFA 23 can run on 8 year old low end hardware at over 60fps, so a medium tier rig is enough. You can get a Ryzen 5 5600 or Intel i5 12400F system with an RX 6600/6700 or RTX 3060 and call it a day. It would come under 60k as well.

But AM5 will be supported till around 2026-28 as well, so you could upgrade only your CPU then.

For the AIO, its not necessary, but if its for aesthetics, then go ahead. Else a 1.5k tower cooler is sufficient.

 

[avroneelbiswas]

The games that you mentioned on playing dont require high end hardware like these, so spending this much for simple tasks is not necessary (unless you want the latest and best). FIFA 23 can run on 8 year old low end hardware at over 60fps, so a medium tier rig is enough. You can get a Ryzen 5 5600 or Intel i5 12400F system with an RX 6600/6700 or RTX 3060 and call it a day. It would come under 60k as well.

But AM5 will be supported till around 2026-28 as well, so you could upgrade only your CPU then.

For the AIO, its not necessary, but if its for aesthetics, then go ahead. Else a 1.5k tower cooler is sufficient.

FIFA 23 cannot run because of Hypermotion 2.0. And I want to play Fifa every year, so cannot settle for RX 6000. The reason I went with a good mobo is that I can opt for a higher Ryzen later if I feel like. 2 years from now, the current 9 series will be lower but will do great for me in gaming as well as productivity.

I am stuck between RX 6700 XT and 3060 Ti. RX has 12 GB and the Ti has 8 GB. Ti has 256 support while the XT has 192 BIT. Cooler I might go with a normal air cooler tbh.

 

[OMEGA44-XT]

The games that you mentioned on playing dont require high end hardware like these, so spending this much for simple tasks is not necessary (unless you want the latest and best). FIFA 23 can run on 8 year old low end hardware at over 60fps, so a medium tier rig is enough. You can get a Ryzen 5 5600 or Intel i5 12400F system with an RX 6600/6700 or RTX 3060 and call it a day. It would come under 60k as well.

But AM5 will be supported till around 2026-28 as well, so you could upgrade only your CPU then.

For the AIO, its not necessary, but if its for aesthetics, then go ahead. Else a 1.5k tower cooler is sufficient.

Let me stop you right there. FIFA 23 won't run well on an 8 year old low end hardware, it is one of the most CPU-intensive games I have played. Sure my RTX 3070 rig pumps out 1440p ultra 140+fps but my old laptop with RTX 2060 (bit better in performance to desktop 1060) barely does 75fps at 1080p medium or so.

FIFA 23 cannot run because of Hypermotion 2.0. And I want to play Fifa every year, so cannot settle for RX 6000. The reason I went with a good mobo is that I can opt for a higher Ryzen later if I feel like. 2 years from now, the current 9 series will be lower but will do great for me in gaming as well as productivity.

I am stuck between RX 6700 XT and 3060 Ti. RX has 12 GB and the Ti has 8 GB. Ti has 256 support while the XT has 192 BIT. Cooler I might go with a normal air cooler tbh.

Why are you considering Nvidia at all? 12GB VRAM will be more useful in games in future.

 

[avroneelbiswas]

Let me stop you right there. FIFA 23 won't run well on an 8 year old low end hardware, it is one of the most CPU-intensive games I have played. Sure my RTX 3070 rig pumps out 1440p ultra 140+fps but my old laptop with RTX 2060 (bit better in performance to desktop 1060) barely does 75fps at 1080p medium or so.


Why are you considering Nvidia at all? 12GB VRAM will be more useful in games in future.

I somehow don't prefer Raedon. RX 6700 XT has its own issues. Apart from Vram 3060 Ti wins imo.

 

[DestGod]

Let me stop you right there. FIFA 23 won't run well on an 8 year old low end hardware, it is one of the most CPU-intensive games I have played. Sure my RTX 3070 rig pumps out 1440p ultra 140+fps but my old laptop with RTX 2060 (bit better in performance to desktop 1060) barely does 75fps at 1080p medium or so.

And I've run FIFA 23 with 60+fps at low 1080p with an i5 4570 and GTX 1060 3GB. What are you on? There's no way you can convince me other wise that "low end" hardware can't run it, unless you come and pluck my eyes out of my head.

I am stuck between RX 6700 XT and 3060 Ti. RX has 12 GB and the Ti has 8 GB. Ti has 256 support while the XT has 192 BIT.

Both are good GPUs, get whichever is cheaper.

 

[OMEGA44-XT]

And I've run FIFA 23 with 60+fps at low 1080p with an i5 4570 and GTX 1060 3GB. What are you on? There's no way you can convince me other wise that "low end" hardware can't run it, unless you come and pluck my eyes out of my head.

Both are good GPUs, get whichever is cheaper.

ICYMI, budget laptops with 1650 are worse & budget desktop GPUs might perform like your 1060 3GB at best or worse. FIFA 22 would run great on the iGPU of relatively new AMD & Intel CPUs, but not FIFA 23. FIFA 22 to FIFA 23 is a big jump in system requirement, can't say that graphics saw that much of an upgrade though. It might not be CP 2077 heavy, but its much heavier than FIFA 22 or CS GO or Valorant.

My laptop used to run FIFA 22 at 144+ fps at 1080p ultra, so fps is kind of halved.

 

[avroneelbiswas]

ICYMI, budget laptops with 1650 are worse & budget desktop GPUs might perform like your 1060 3GB at best or worse. FIFA 22 would run great on the iGPU of relatively new AMD & Intel CPUs, but not FIFA 23. FIFA 22 to FIFA 23 is a big jump in system requirement, can't say that graphics saw that much of an upgrade though. It might not be CP 2077 heavy, but its much heavier than FIFA 22 or CS GO or Valorant.

My laptop used to run FIFA 22 at 144+ fps at 1080p ultra, so fps is kind of halved.

The Games and the genre I mentioned along with the usage of Photoshop, Ms Office, and Excel. will Ryzen 5 7600 and 3060Ti be sufficient at least for 4-5 years?

 

[dvader]

And I've run FIFA 23 with 60+fps at low 1080p with an i5 4570 and GTX 1060 3GB. What are you on? There's no way you can convince me other wise that "low end" hardware can't run it, unless you come and pluck my eyes out of my head.

Both are good GPUs, get whichever is cheaper.

Yeah, 1060 should run it just fine at least the PCIe card, can't comment on laptops. 1060 6G handles Elden ring at 1440p at console FPS >30FPS at max settings and ~50fps at low. Although I upgraded my GPU a long time back, I am proud to see it stand the test of time.

The Games and the genre I mentioned along with the usage of Photoshop, Ms Office, and Excel. will Ryzen 5 7600 and 3060Ti be sufficient at least for 4-5 years?

Even a used 5700xt will serve you well for 3 years and they are available for cheap in the used market, you can upgrade your GPU midway through the 5-year period for the same aggregate cost. 6700xt/3060ti are great too. As @DestGod mentioned get whichever is cheaper.

 

[OMEGA44-XT]

The Games and the genre I mentioned along with the usage of Photoshop, Ms Office, and Excel. will Ryzen 5 7600 and 3060Ti be sufficient at least for 4-5 years?

Yes, Photoshop is single core performance dependent & needs a lot of RAM. Even for multicore performance, R5 7600 is good for its price.

3060Ti - my recommendation will be to avoid it & get 6700XT/6750XT for the extra 4GB VRAM. Your requirement is gaming. Surely there are just a few games now that hit the 8GB VRAM limit at 1440p, but more will be coming out as time passes. So 3060Ti & 4060Ti are not recommended for gaming. As an RTX 3070 owner, trust me, RT isn't worth it in this performance class & 12GB VRAM will be more useful. Higher quality textures usually don't impact fps much but takes load on VRAM, but higher quality textures do make the game look noticeably better.

6700XT is mainly defeated in RT. I have used RT in only F1 22 & Guardians of the Galaxy, both didn't have a heavy implementation of RT, so it was not like it was noticeably better looking, like how Spiderman Remastered was. But Spiderman was dropping fps to below 50fps a lot even with 1440p DLSS quality mode. FSR is almost as good as DLSS, so there's that too.

3060Ti starts at 33k, 6750XT at 34k, so get 6750XT (performs 5-10% faster than 6700XT):

Asus Dual Radeon RX 6750 XT OC Edition 12GB GDDR6

ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6750 XT OC Edition 12GB GDDR6 DUAL-RX6750XT-O12G ASUS Dual Radeon™ RX 6750 XT OC Edition 12GB GDDR6 is armed to dish out frames and keep vitals in check. OC mode: Up to 2638 MHz (Boost Clock)/up to 2532 MHz (Game Clock) Axial-tech fan design features a smaller fa

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[dvader]

Yes, Photoshop is single core performance dependent & needs a lot of RAM. Even for multicore performance, R5 7600 is good for its price.

3060Ti - my recommendation will be to avoid it & get 6700XT/6750XT for the extra 4GB VRAM. Your requirement is gaming. Surely there are just a few games now that hit the 8GB VRAM limit at 1440p, but more will be coming out as time passes. So 3060Ti & 4060Ti are not recommended for gaming. As an RTX 3070 owner, trust me, RT isn't worth it in this performance class & 12GB VRAM will be more useful. Higher quality textures usually don't impact fps much but takes load on VRAM, but higher quality textures do make the game look noticeably better.

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6700XT is mainly defeated in RT. I have used RT in only F1 22 & Guardians of the Galaxy, both didn't have a heavy implementation of RT, so it was not like it was noticeably better looking, like how Spiderman Remastered was. But Spiderman was dropping fps to below 50fps a lot even with 1440p DLSS quality mode. FSR is almost as good as DLSS, so there's that too.

3060Ti starts at 33k, 6750XT at 34k, so get 6750XT (performs 5-10% faster than 6700XT):

Asus Dual Radeon RX 6750 XT OC Edition 12GB GDDR6

ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6750 XT OC Edition 12GB GDDR6 DUAL-RX6750XT-O12G ASUS Dual Radeon™ RX 6750 XT OC Edition 12GB GDDR6 is armed to dish out frames and keep vitals in check. OC mode: Up to 2638 MHz (Boost Clock)/up to 2532 MHz (Game Clock) Axial-tech fan design features a smaller fa

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Those graphs are from Steve's video right? I see you are man of culture as well.

 

[avroneelbiswas]

I have decided to go with the RX 6750. I hope it will serve me well for 4-5 years. I am also planning to use Wraith Prism for the Ryzen 7 5600.

 

[OMEGA44-XT]

Those graphs are from Steve's video right? I see you are man of culture as well.

Steve & Steve are my go-to guys for PC Hardware reviews (Gamers Nexus & Hardware Unboxed).

 

[dvader]

Steve & Steve are my go-to guys for PC Hardware reviews (Gamers Nexus & Hardware Unboxed).

"Thanks, Steve, back to you Steve". Their collabs have been awesome.

 

[avroneelbiswas]

Okay, today I was cleaning my chassis and found that my PSU is Corsair RM850x. Here is the spec I am going for. I am just waiting for the GPU to arrive, once I get it and I can build my RIG. Thanks to each and every one of you, I will surely post the pics of every component and the entire RIG.

Is my PSU sufficient for the following specs?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600
MOBO: MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI
GPU: ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Trinity OC (Thanks to Powervgx)
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 6000MHz
COOLER: EK AIO 240 D-RGB
SSD: Kingston KC3000 2TB M.2 NVMe Gen4
PSU: Corsair RM850x ( My old one)
CHASIS: CM Storm Stryker SE (My old one)