Hitler Crazy!

[malhotraraul]

^^

Without Hitler, there would have been many other changes in the world. Instead of a Holocaust, six million Jews would have continued to live peacefully in Germany and the surrounding countries. Israel would have remained a pipe-dream of Jews, obviously blocked by British reluctance to agonize their Arab subjects and the lack of any threat to the very existence of the Jews.

Technical development might also be slower in this timeline. Atomic weapons won’t be invented until much later, which would also slow down the peaceful development of atomic power, while rockets and computers would remain undeveloped for a few more years. Without the military need, space program development would have been slow, tanks and planes will remain at 1930 levels without the need to improve them very fast.

 

[damn]

Half the people advocating, preaching or worshiping Hitler just do it to be e-cool. The ability of the other half to see past the genocide to admire him for his merits (while better examples exist) is amazing and sad.

 

[neoronin]

This is from my experience about a decade back when I was heading the book section of a very famous book shop. Jaico group publishes "Mein Kampf" in a paperback edition [cheapest] and every summer there will be a sudden increase in demand for this book. Otherwise in a week it will sell around 3 or 4 copies. But I would always pre-order "Mein Kampf" and make sure that we don't run out of stock. And guess what, all those years that I spent in the book store, I haven't come across a single woman, a man in his middle age or a old person asking me for that book. It's always teens, college kids and men in their 20's.

Till this day you can always find this book being prominently displayed in any biography section [or non-fiction in some shops] I used to motivate buyers who pick up stuff on Che Guevara also to pick up Mein Kampf and they usually thank me for recommending such an enlightening read. Till date I haven't read it though.

I wonder why Hitler enthusiasts never support any other dictator who is alive and currently busy indulging in "building" their nations like Kim Jong Il.

 

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Israel would have remained a pipe-dream of Jews, obviously blocked by British reluctance to agonize their Arab subjects and the lack of any threat to the very existence of the Jews.

Not a pipe dream, Israel would have taken longer to be created but would eventually exist. The drive to create a Jewish homeleand already started late in the 19th century.

Half the world as we know it today did not exist around WW2, you mean to say given all the nationalist movements in fashion at the time Israel would have been left out ?

Now, had the Turks not sided with the Germans in WW1, there would be no Balfour Declaration and it might have taken longer still.

 

[ragzdiablo]

Are the mods on vacation today...

this topic is a never ender...this can go all day....different people have different views..whats the point in fighting on this forum..

its better not to put in more views please..

the haters for whatever reason they hate him..can continue hating him..

the followers..no matters if theyve had their history lessons or not..can continue following him...

stop it please..

 

[manu1991]

People who dislike someone liking Hitler are worse than those who like him . Keep to your own self . For the record i don't like him and what he did was wrong , but i don't care if someone likes him , why do you care ?

 

[Sandy]

Oh god.. did i made someone mad by posting the pic below.. duh.. i frackin don't care.. Hitler was and will always be a great person..

With you all the way! lets also start a Mel Gibson fan club? :rofl:

 

[malhotraraul]

Not a pipe dream, Israel would have taken longer to be created but would eventually exist. The drive to create a Jewish homeleand already started late in the 19th century.

Half the world as we know it today did not exist around WW2, you mean to say given all the nationalist movements in fashion at the time Israel would have been left out ?

Now, had the Turks not sided with the Germans in WW1, there would be no Balfour Declaration and it might have taken longer still.

Without the war in Europe, Stalin would probably not attack Finland & more effective help could be sent from Europe, and Japan would continue its attempts to gain complete control of China. With the war in Europe being limited to two nations, the French and British would be stronger in the region and more able to oppose Japan, perhaps with the help of soviet Russia. It is not impossible to speculate that a Japanese-Russian war might happen in this timeline, with the other nations selling war supplies to the parties and benefiting from the economic boom.

The entire HISTORY - GEOGRAPHY would have be different.

 

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The entire HISTORY - GEOGRAPHY would have be different.

And i don't dispute any of this.

The point is whether this makes Hitler a great man ? -- presumably what ppl that admire him look at.

He was a great man in Germany during the time he was in charge but what about outside Germany, what were the effects of his rule ?

The other point is what lasting effect(s) did his policies have ? None, whatever he wanted for Germany came to nothing and cost them very dearly in the end. I'm not questioning whether he changed history, necessarily he did, but whatever he did was with Germany's interest first & foremost, in this he failed.

What ppl seem to be attracted to is his starting years, how he came to power, this is what ppl seem to be fixated with. Initially his own generals thought him just a jumped up corporal, only when they were forced to obey him did they carry out his ideas.

Regardless of the political situation in Germany at the time, i still put his rise down to the Treaty of Versailles, it was over the top, if it wasn't Hitler, i think it would have been somebody else out there trying to regain German pride, they prolly would have been a war as well.

I'm not sure if the OP's question has been answered yet -- why do ppl here like him

 

[kauzy]

^^to some extent i agree.. but i don't understand why would be anyone concerned if someone likes a person or not?? u cannot force a person to like or dislike anyone/anything.. ever heard of "to each his own"??

 

[viralbug]

ever heard of "to each his own"??

That's one of the biggest problem of human kind. It might seem I'm crazy here, but it's true.

 

[AbhijithS]

Even if one person has realised that supporting Hitler is bloody disgusting, I would consider this thread a success, I have done my good deed for the day.

On a lighter note, how ridiculous does a Hitler Supporting Brown Skin Head sound..absolutely hilarious!!!

More Absurdness: zebronics-bijli-as-nazi-box

 

[manu1991]

You have a problem if someone paints his cabinet red and then paints a black swastika on it ?

 

[Darthcoder]

You have a problem if someone paints his cabinet red and then paints a black swastika on it ?

No, I just pity them for their ignorance and move on.

 

[salluks]

the obsession was mutual..

did u know..hitler always had a thing for indians?

he even offered Dhyan chand citizenship and to play for Germany.. was good friends with subash chandra bose..

i think the reason why we look upto him is the command attitude he had( one person can change the world attitude)..

quite frankly we look for someone like him in India to set it right.. not as notorious as him.. but the authority that he had.. something our leaders aren't even close to!

I also read somewhere that the holocaust figures are greatly exaggerated, doesn't still justify what he did tough.

 

[dark.lord.rules]

this thread is good for nthng...mods please close this ...

it just depends on choices ... what if few people like him ?? ... why does it bug u so much ?? ... dont worry the wont bomb u out dude ... chill ...

 

[Gannu]

No, I just pity them for their ignorance and move on.

Relax DC. You know people hate it for the disregard you have for the Indian cricket team (I'm completely OK with that since as they say 'to each his own' ). This is something similar. The OP, you and some others hate him, some of them admires him and some others don't really care ffs.

 

[blr_p]

i think the reason why we look upto him is the command attitude he had( one person can change the world attitude)..

Indira during the emergency ?

quite frankly we look for someone like him in India to set it right.. not as notorious as him.. but the authority that he had.. something our leaders aren't even close to!.

Again Indira, and she lost the following election. We in the south did not fare too badly as in the north. Very strong feelings against authoritarian leadership in this country i feel.

And thats the crux of it, ppl like authority so long as its their guy doing it, if its the opposition then there is a problem. What this should illustrate is ppl fall for it in the beginning and later begin to realise their mistake by which time its too late to do anything about it.

 

[kauzy]

Even if one person has realised that supporting Hitler is bloody disgusting, I would consider this thread a success, I have done my good deed for the day.

On a lighter note, how ridiculous does a Hitler Supporting Brown Skin Head sound..absolutely hilarious!!!

More Absurdness: zebronics-bijli-as-nazi-box

in which u have failed miserably.. pity u..

 

[sunny27]

I read in some one's signature..

"It does not take balls to be brave..

Hitler had only one.."

Hail him for that..

@viralbug..

your raavan example is spot on..

he is still idolized for being a scholar...

that siggy was madnav's siggy!

btw we owe a lot of things to hitler-our own independence - ww2 exhausted the british. look at the bright side - we've got loads of good ww2 games!!!!

@ the op - this was your good deed for the day? what good deed? all you did was start a pointless discussion and proved with your juvenile comments that you are a total clot!!

this thread reeks of controversy! it will be closed soon once the mods arrive.