Holy Cow! What is going on..
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Marcus Fenix
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You may be an unstoppable force but you have met an immovable object
This is the new India which is moved out with the vote bank Secularism baggage on a Hindu Majority nation...
This is an excellent piece by Shekhar Guptha.
https://theprint.in/2017/07/28/hamara-desh-badal-gaya-hai/amp/
As I mentioned earlier its a perception that's being created that the Govt is anti minority. The Govt is not appeasing the minority that's it. Since they're used to Appeasement all these years, equal treatment is being perceived as harassment and this view is being supported by media and opposition for their own benefits.
In fact the debate has gone to such an extent that on TV show BJP spokesperson inadvertently spelt that they don't need minority to vote for them hurriedly he clarified, Rather they do not expect them to vote for BJP.
Clearly BJP has nothing to lose if the Muslims do not vote for them. Now its the Muslims who are set to lose if they don't have a say in BJPs decisions. They have been isolated, politically sidelined and for the first time since independence they're feeling what its like to be a minority. They have nobody but themselves to blame, for being a vote bank. This won't work anymore.
Now The religion which is playing the victim card isn't a peaceful or innocent religion either. They're the torch bearers of worst human rights violations, bigotry, terrorist violence both nationally and internationally. They claim a victim hood if they are a minority and Annihilation of other religions if they are a majority. What happened Hindus of Pakistan? Or Jews of Saudi Arabia/Iran ? There are places in UK where even non Muslim women are advised to use a head scarf just to be on the safer side.
What's happening in West Bengal? A 14yr old is in Jail for a Facebook post & the Rioters are roaming free... There's no FoE debates no support for the 14yr old, even on TE??
There are other minorities in the country as well. Somehow this religion gets the best of the news and compensation. They attack other Minorities if required.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/indian...in-kerala-village-as-school-serves-pork/lite/
Every attack on a minority isn't beef related, which the Secular media tries to portray but naturally they are not getting any support. I think that should be enough and not open the Azaan debate to show how tolerant majority of Hindus are...
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^^ Appreciate your epic post explaining that bjp is not appeasing minorities but we know that and are not debating it.
What we're talking about is the blatant goondaism being carried out in the name of various issues like gau rakshak etc. Heck, they're even transferring cops for upholding the law against bjp bullies. Where is the minority in this?
This is nothing new for the bjp and it's allies. Remember Graham staines? They burnt him and his two sons to death for alleged conversions when they were actually taking care of lepers which our great 'culture' considers untouchable.
So basically their implementation of hindutva is just like fanatical Islamism or nazism which says there's no harm in even killing others. Justified by various reasons.
Read the definition of terrorism I've posted above. Murder is murder. Stop using 'they're not minority appeasing' to distract from or justify that.
What we're talking about is the blatant goondaism being carried out in the name of various issues like gau rakshak etc. Heck, they're even transferring cops for upholding the law against bjp bullies. Where is the minority in this?
This is nothing new for the bjp and it's allies. Remember Graham staines? They burnt him and his two sons to death for alleged conversions when they were actually taking care of lepers which our great 'culture' considers untouchable.
So basically their implementation of hindutva is just like fanatical Islamism or nazism which says there's no harm in even killing others. Justified by various reasons.
Read the definition of terrorism I've posted above. Murder is murder. Stop using 'they're not minority appeasing' to distract from or justify that.
So the secular media is now trying fake news as well? Wow.This is the new India which is moved out with the vote bank Secularism baggage on a Hindu Majority nation...
This is an excellent piece by Shekhar Guptha.
https://theprint.in/2017/07/28/hamara-desh-badal-gaya-hai/amp/
As I mentioned earlier its a perception that's being created that the Govt is anti minority. The Govt is not appeasing the minority that's it. Since they're used to Appeasement all these years, equal treatment is being perceived as harassment and this view is being supported by media and opposition for their own benefits.
In fact the debate has gone to such an extent that on TV show BJP spokesperson inadvertently spelt that they don't need minority to vote for them hurriedly he clarified, Rather they do not expect them to vote for BJP.
Clearly BJP has nothing to lose if the Muslims do not vote for them. Now its the Muslims who are set to lose if they don't have a say in BJPs decisions. They have been isolated, politically sidelined and for the first time since independence they're feeling what its like to be a minority. They have nobody but themselves to blame, for being a vote bank. This won't work anymore.
Now The religion which is playing the victim card isn't a peaceful or innocent religion either. They're the torch bearers of worst human rights violations, bigotry, terrorist violence both nationally and internationally. They claim a victim hood if they are a minority and Annihilation of other religions if they are a majority. What happened Hindus of Pakistan? Or Jews of Saudi Arabia/Iran ? There are places in UK where even non Muslim women are advised to use a head scarf just to be on the safer side.
What's happening in West Bengal? A 14yr old is in Jail for a Facebook post & the Rioters are roaming free... There's no FoE debates no support for the 14yr old, even on TE??
There are other minorities in the country as well. Somehow this religion gets the best of the news and compensation. They attack other Minorities if required.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/indian...in-kerala-village-as-school-serves-pork/lite/
Every attack on a minority isn't beef related, which the Secular media tries to portray but naturally they are not getting any support. I think that should be enough and not open the Azaan debate to show how tolerant majority of Hindus are...
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NotMyRealName
Oh I'm sorry they are food for many of us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just some baseless stereotype rant. If you have proof that we supported those moves please do entertain us.
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NotMyRealName
Beef is the 3rd most consumed meat in the world after pork and poultry. While we're stuck in some medieval mindsets, the rest of the world is happily moving on.
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As said earlier, even the UAE allows the legal sale and consumption of pork. Not to muslims though. It's only the most extremist and radical islamist countries that ban it. So we should definitely try and emulate them...
Marcus Fenix
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So we will saying things like Digital India and superpower in one breath and then emulate the towelhead dictatorships of the middle east?
And BTW India by its constitution is a secular country not a Hindu one.No matter how the Shultz Staffen of the RSS try to imagine otherwise.
cronosbrah
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Dude stop acting your getting offended about this whole beef fiasco. If you don't eat it, it doesn't affect you... leave it at that and move on.
I don't understand why do Indians love to get involved in other people's businesses and make it their personal mission to pull down a group people or minorities because those people don't conform to their religion's standards.
The idea is to live and let live....the same people who complain about mosque loudspeakers are the same hypocrites who part take and condone the commercial and loud distasteful mockery of god when Ganpati and other religious festivals come around. You may say otherwise but the majority are A-OK with it and would still support it even the bhajans woke them up at 5 am in the morning.
Hinduism isnt as peaceful as it appears, it s a nice concept but the amount of caste-ism and sheer amount of backwardness and ignorance about faith and religious symbolism that still exists make me laugh and sad at the same time.
Not to mention the segregation and subjugation that still exists in some parts of the country based on color that too...makes me question what good is any religion? The more I've learnt and seen over the years about how badly people's minds have been brainwashed with religious intolerance and bigotry for other faiths, the more I withdraw from it. I rather not associated with any one of them.
Screw these fundamentalists trying to ruin our country with their bullshit agendas, if you're so concerned with cows being slaughtered why don't go around the world trying to stop the millions who are being slaughtered right now? Arent they gods too? or have gods in them or whatever it is that you were told to believe they are. And while you're at it.... what about the cows that roam the streets and roads in between traffic, let to freely roam eating garbage on the streets.. I mean what's a godly animal doing eating garbage on the streets?
You wanna what i believe? they' are animals, and if they provide a food source for people who need to be fed so that they can about their daily lives contributing to society making everyone's lives better without personally affecting anyone...Then there should be no debate, end of story.
You can't have it both ways. you either live with a weak willed plant eating population of weak bodied and minded people, who wonder why they get laughed at around the world for not eating animal protein to get stronger due to their ignorant and frankly stupid beliefs.
Or you rise up and change your attitude and embrace what is real and based in scientific facts, rather than some bullshit religious fantasy stories.
The choice is really yours. stay ignorant or step into the light.
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Some of us like to bash other's faith and protect theirs. That's the irony here.[DOUBLEPOST=1501505325][/DOUBLEPOST]
Have you ever seen an elephant ? I guess not.
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The only worthwhile thing in your post.[DOUBLEPOST=1501505450][/DOUBLEPOST]
Secular, right ?[DOUBLEPOST=1501505610][/DOUBLEPOST]
What is actually, White man's science. We had a culture dating at least 3,000 years old. And, you have no value for it.
Have you ever seen an elephant ? I guess not.
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The only worthwhile thing in your post.[DOUBLEPOST=1501505450][/DOUBLEPOST]
Secular, right ?[DOUBLEPOST=1501505610][/DOUBLEPOST]
What is actually, White man's science. We had a culture dating at least 3,000 years old. And, you have no value for it.
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TheGreatOne
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Didn't even get what the context was, just commented to remain relevant.
cronosbrah
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Some of us like to bash other's faith and protect theirs. That's the irony here.[DOUBLEPOST=1501505325][/DOUBLEPOST]
Have you ever seen an elephant ? I guess not.
The only worthwhile thing in your post.[DOUBLEPOST=1501505450][/DOUBLEPOST]
Secular, right ?[DOUBLEPOST=1501505610][/DOUBLEPOST]
What is actually, White man's science. We had a culture dating at least 3,000 years old. And, you have no value for it.
Go read up some biology to understand the physiological differences between humans and other species.
Chimpanzees and Apes are ten times stronger than us despite eating plants only. But their bones and muscles are different than ours despite sharing practically sharing the same DNA as us.
Using your analogy.... cheetahs eat meat, so shouldn't we eat meat too to get as fast as them? you do get the point right ...cmon?
And what does it matter what my religious or political beliefs are? You seem to be the exact embodiment of the kind of people who don't care to look at the bigger picture but instead focus on the smallest things to offend you.
You can't be serious by saying "white man science" just goes to show how ignorant you are....
The scientific progress that world has achieved in the last century alone trumps the so called "3000 year old culture" in all walks of life
There's been a collaborative effort across the globe to create medicine, help fight disease, allowed people to live longer.
Given us the ability to grow and harvest crops faster, breed animals for meat and other means faster too etc.
No point in history has there been a more prosperous and safe time on this planet like we have today.
You're going to discount all of that? You do realize this very "white man science" like GMO and Polio vaccines and other medical breakthroughs allowed your ancestors to get enough food to grow up healthy and survive and see another day... only to one day make you ( a biological accident) a reality?
I thin you understand what I'm saying it's just that you choose to re-iterate your religious beliefs to an extent where you want others to not only accept them but to adhere to them, as if you were specifically tasked of handling the public relations for you religion. We call them shills LOL.
All you need to do is keep open mind and look at the facts. Dont be blinded by ignorance.
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