iPhone 4 launched
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Metalspree
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Just spoke to my BIL who works for ATT,should get it by December( as a gift) .The first iphone i am loving 
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Hain u middle class??? ...u the same chap who asked to buy which 6 lakh or 10 lakh bike....??Rahulrulez said:Awesome phone but iPhone is always out of budget for Middle class Indians like us
Anyways...contract is cheaper......but definitely it will have 50k+ price tag as soon as u see it here
Btw where to get the list of countries where its goin to launch by September(total 88 ..but INDIA isnt in it as heard)???
On 24th june 2010 in 5 countries
USA , France , Germany , UK and Japan
it will hit more countries in 2010 including
Australia , Austria , Belgium, Canada , Denmark, Finland, HongKong, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway , New Zealand , Singapore , South Korea , Spain , Sweden and Switzerland.
I meant grey..And it wont be a failure for people who flauntRahulrulez said:^ :bleh: Bike were for my friends who are rich like richie rich :bleh: not me :no:
Btw, if price tag is 50k+ then this would be failure in India
Officially its no where near..Also is iphone 3GS officially available here??..or hardly i guess 2-3 months back it released (I am not sure as it didnot excited me)so i guess may be next year jt will release here
I have to say this out loud:
After sitting for nearly 4 hrs eating up all the news on it last night (live) and today morning, the iPhone 4 is a disappointment.
+ves
1. The hardware is f*ing awesome. No doubt about it. The design, the metal, the glass, the slimness, the screen itself, gyroscope, and the quality of construction. Wow.
2. The battery life is brilliant and might just be the biggest reason why I might still consider it.
-ves
1. The 326dpi resolution is over-rated, camera quality is matched by the best in the business, video-calling through Wifi only is so sad it ain't funny, multi-tasking is still OK, and a whole lot of other features which are already available in similar phones 6 months back (Nexus One, Droid, and now Evo 4g)
2. Basically, the phone is *at par* with any high-end Android phone and adds a gyroscope and sexy design. But the screen is smaller than any high-end phone. 3.5" is so 2008. :|
3. The price?!?! What were they thinking? $700 is more expensive than even the Evo 4G! This is simply the most expensive high-end smartphone to buy! If this was $450-ish, I would have bought it without a blink.
4. Why is social media support still so sad? Where are the widgets? Where is my customizable home-screens with Facebook walls and Twitter timelines? And of course, NO Flash!
My opinion: I own an iMac and I love the iPad, I am not a fanboy nor a hater. I run Mac, Android and Windows through the 16hrs I am awake everyday. But the iPhone 4 disappoints me because I don't see any true innovation in this much awaited flagship phone. The hardware is at par or slightly better than phones already on the market, in 6 months time there will be tons of phones bettering it. The only real stand-out points are design, quality and battery life but the software, social media and internet is where the heart of any great smartphone is today - and I don't see any of that with this launch.
It almost feels like seeing a Sony or Nokia launch. Great materials, quality construction, reliability (not entirely Sony!) but no true innovation anywhere.
Apple products never succeeded on spec-sheets (Macs were always "lower powered") but were always awesome at the final product - the software. This launch focuses so much on hardware specs (Retina Display? Seriously?)!
Ah well. At the end of the day, I know it'll sell well. The only reasons I won't buy it are the price and the lack of proper "home-screens" (why I should be looking at apps only? :/).
I believe the next one year is going to be a test for the Apple brand. Android is going to leap-frog in terms of software development and hardware launches, Win 7 is going to launch and Apple will have only the iPhone 4 for the next 365 days at least. Unlike the world of Macs vs PC, the number of users for smartphones are much higher and choices aplenty, so choosing an iPhone just because it is "cool" and "sexy" will not be enough.
Cheers!
Payne
After sitting for nearly 4 hrs eating up all the news on it last night (live) and today morning, the iPhone 4 is a disappointment.
+ves
1. The hardware is f*ing awesome. No doubt about it. The design, the metal, the glass, the slimness, the screen itself, gyroscope, and the quality of construction. Wow.
2. The battery life is brilliant and might just be the biggest reason why I might still consider it.
-ves
1. The 326dpi resolution is over-rated, camera quality is matched by the best in the business, video-calling through Wifi only is so sad it ain't funny, multi-tasking is still OK, and a whole lot of other features which are already available in similar phones 6 months back (Nexus One, Droid, and now Evo 4g)
2. Basically, the phone is *at par* with any high-end Android phone and adds a gyroscope and sexy design. But the screen is smaller than any high-end phone. 3.5" is so 2008. :|
3. The price?!?! What were they thinking? $700 is more expensive than even the Evo 4G! This is simply the most expensive high-end smartphone to buy! If this was $450-ish, I would have bought it without a blink.
4. Why is social media support still so sad? Where are the widgets? Where is my customizable home-screens with Facebook walls and Twitter timelines? And of course, NO Flash!
My opinion: I own an iMac and I love the iPad, I am not a fanboy nor a hater. I run Mac, Android and Windows through the 16hrs I am awake everyday. But the iPhone 4 disappoints me because I don't see any true innovation in this much awaited flagship phone. The hardware is at par or slightly better than phones already on the market, in 6 months time there will be tons of phones bettering it. The only real stand-out points are design, quality and battery life but the software, social media and internet is where the heart of any great smartphone is today - and I don't see any of that with this launch.
It almost feels like seeing a Sony or Nokia launch. Great materials, quality construction, reliability (not entirely Sony!) but no true innovation anywhere.
Apple products never succeeded on spec-sheets (Macs were always "lower powered") but were always awesome at the final product - the software. This launch focuses so much on hardware specs (Retina Display? Seriously?)!
Ah well. At the end of the day, I know it'll sell well. The only reasons I won't buy it are the price and the lack of proper "home-screens" (why I should be looking at apps only? :/).
I believe the next one year is going to be a test for the Apple brand. Android is going to leap-frog in terms of software development and hardware launches, Win 7 is going to launch and Apple will have only the iPhone 4 for the next 365 days at least. Unlike the world of Macs vs PC, the number of users for smartphones are much higher and choices aplenty, so choosing an iPhone just because it is "cool" and "sexy" will not be enough.
Cheers!
Payne
kauzy said:
smoky004 said:
If you guy's don't get it, my point was not about the amount of storage, but rather about non-expandability of storage. I may want only 16GB GB storage right now and don't want to spend money for 32GB storage, but I may need to have more than 32 GB storage with me after a while. A phone with just 500MB storage and a memory card slot allows me to do that. With iPhone, I have to spend for 32GB when I need 16GB and still end up in a soup later when I want more than 32GB. A lot of people say that this decision was taken because memory cards are slow and ruin the user experience, but that's plain BS. User experience can compromised to an extent when more important things are stake. In realty I think this decision has more to do with Apple wanting its customers to buy a new phone every time they run out of storage. Having on board storage is good. Not having expandability is a bad thing any way you look at it. So plz don't try to defend Apple on that front. My comments were very fair. You guy's may be fine with what Apple decides is best for you, but I want my gadgets to have what I want.
smoky004 said:
micro-sim is itself not bad, but when half the word is still on regular sim's, its not a good thing to go ahead and provide that as the only format. Its nice that people found ways of cutting the regular sim to work with the micro sim slot, but what would people have done had that not been a possibility. The process may be simple, but its not easy and there are chances that an Amateur may ruin his sim doing that. Alternatively you would need to get your hands on a specialized tool to do that properly. What ever the case, its an additional over head for all the people for whom regular sims are the standard.
smoky004 said:
Well I think a lot of people expected a bigger screen, but I was pretty sure they won't as it doesn't make business sense for iPad. Can you tell me one thing that iPad has that iPhone 4 doesn't? apart from the larger screen size, iPad is inferior in every possible way. If iPhone gets a screen any larger, it would ruin the sales of iPad. Apple wants you to buy both iPhone and iPad.
In any case, 3.5" is more than large enough for a phone and added to that, the non-standard aspect ratio that makes the width of the phone too big, can you imagine holding a 4.3" screen which is in 2:3 aspect. It would be massive. I wish they would move to a 16:9 format as that's so much nicer for a Phone, but then it would mean a lot of headache for a lot of already existing apps.
@Magnet: Sadly, all I can do is wait and hold on to my G1 right now. The Evo 4G is apparently laggy in some menus and does not have a Froyo update right now and by the time Froyo comes around, there will be more powerful phones.
I am gonna wait till September and pick up something worthy, in the meanwhile, the Nexus One is still sooo good especially with Froyo in its kitty!
I am gonna wait till September and pick up something worthy, in the meanwhile, the Nexus One is still sooo good especially with Froyo in its kitty!
Metalspree
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malhotraraul
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not much difference if compared to nexus, has Apple A4 1GHz processor which is same as Nexus, improved display & HD than nexus.
It's iOS 4 & Froyo now !
It's iOS 4 & Froyo now !
^^ Apple A4 is slightly better than Snapdragon. Clock speed is not everything. On the same lines, Tegra 2 is considerably better than A4. I hope we see Tegra 2 in phones soon.
I hate discussing iPhones in tech forums. It's been clear for years that iPhones will never really satisfy tech purists who look for the best specs and compatibility and yet, they seem to look forward to every new release in hope that it'll bring something to the table for them. It's almost like the one phone that "geeks" would love to see coming over to their side or something of that sort. It's just not going to happen.
It is definitely targeted at the mass market. However, there are certain things that iPhones do better than any other phone on the market - Smoothest user experience with unrivaled ease of use. Most tech sites and forums go on about how Apple's iPhone features are not really revolutionary as they have been around for a long time. I'd call this a half truth. Before the original iPhone, multi-touch was hardly accessible to anyone. It's the same with video calling. Most Android phones don't even have frontal cameras and the ones I've used on Symbian are just a joke. Apple is definitely good at taking existing technologies and perfecting them for the average Joe.
Customary disclaimer to avoid being called a "fanboy": I use an HTC Legend and I am a fan of Android. I just think an iPhone suits a lot of people better.
It is definitely targeted at the mass market. However, there are certain things that iPhones do better than any other phone on the market - Smoothest user experience with unrivaled ease of use. Most tech sites and forums go on about how Apple's iPhone features are not really revolutionary as they have been around for a long time. I'd call this a half truth. Before the original iPhone, multi-touch was hardly accessible to anyone. It's the same with video calling. Most Android phones don't even have frontal cameras and the ones I've used on Symbian are just a joke. Apple is definitely good at taking existing technologies and perfecting them for the average Joe.
Customary disclaimer to avoid being called a "fanboy": I use an HTC Legend and I am a fan of Android. I just think an iPhone suits a lot of people better.
Arihant.EXE
Forerunner
Froyo in its what? :S
In my opinion, if you
keep looking for that 'perfect' device, you would never be able to get anything.
In my opinion, it's the best smartphone ever launched. It does not lag in any department. It's a beautiful device with a beasty hardware. It's powerful hardware wise, software wise, appearances wise, technology wise, innovation wise, price wise and support wise. Show me a device more powerful and innovative than this one right now . . The EVO 4g is definitely a compititor but its not innovative in any respect, except you would be paying a premium for the 4g hardware that you can never expect to use in our country . . . (almost never
).For me, its better than what was expected. Apple is a company and not god that it can see the future and brings it to the present! This device i believe is at the saturation point with the technology available right now.
Well done Apple! :-D
Shripad
Innovator
Gizmado surely spoiled the usual over excitement of Apple iPhone release this year
This would have been 10page thread by now without the leak.
Honestly this is first iPhone which will be actually good as a phone out of box (without jailbreak ).
But whats an iPhone if Apple does not leave some stupid restrictions in firmware so that they can release a new OS down the line and call it an upgrade and look like they care for customers
Wish it had atleast 3.7" or 4" screen. That kinda resolution on 3.5" is overkill.
Still this is good.
As usual we wont be getting it officially this year if previous Apple releases are any indication.
@ Evo 4G
Forget the firmware issues, those will be surely fixed by devs or by HTC themselves. But have you guys pocketed HD2?(evo 4G will be same size, basically its android version of HD2 with small changes). I honestly still dont feel comfortable carrying such big device daily in pocket.
I honestly feel 4" should be limit of daily use phone. More than that and its just too big for single handed operation.
N1 and Desire are perfect form factors. X10 size should be as big as a phone device should be.
This would have been 10page thread by now without the leak.
Honestly this is first iPhone which will be actually good as a phone out of box (without jailbreak ).
But whats an iPhone if Apple does not leave some stupid restrictions in firmware so that they can release a new OS down the line and call it an upgrade and look like they care for customers
Wish it had atleast 3.7" or 4" screen. That kinda resolution on 3.5" is overkill.
Still this is good.
As usual we wont be getting it officially this year if previous Apple releases are any indication.
@ Evo 4G
Forget the firmware issues, those will be surely fixed by devs or by HTC themselves. But have you guys pocketed HD2?(evo 4G will be same size, basically its android version of HD2 with small changes). I honestly still dont feel comfortable carrying such big device daily in pocket.
I honestly feel 4" should be limit of daily use phone. More than that and its just too big for single handed operation.
N1 and Desire are perfect form factors. X10 size should be as big as a phone device should be.
blufox
Forerunner
Get a Galaxy S if people do not want to jump to iPhone 4.
Galaxy S is going to full of win.
Mind you Samsung has the same A4 chip in a different package in its stable so we do not know when we will see something better than A4 from Samsung.
BTW did anyone notice Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Thanks,
Galaxy S is going to full of win.
Mind you Samsung has the same A4 chip in a different package in its stable so we do not know when we will see something better than A4 from Samsung.
BTW did anyone notice Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Thanks,
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