Maggi and the soup its in

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kidrow said:
I haven't been following this closely but iinm, Nestle hasn't yet come out in support of their brand yet. I was expecting something along the lines of 'We are committed to health & safety... our own tests indicate.... safe for consumption.... look into the matter...' blah blah. Any idea why they haven't done so?

Seems strange that they haven't, but have rather decided to remain silent. .....Or am I simply wrong & they have indeed said something to that effect.
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Not so. Nestle CEO has made several responses on the issue. As per his claims, Maggi sold outside India is also made to same standards and tests from several independent bodies have shown it to be completely safe.

Even in India, only the certain states have tests claiming that its unfit while others like Goa are saying that its safe.
 
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Lord Nemesis said:
Not so. Nestle CEO has made several responses on the issue. As per his claims, Maggi sold outside India is also made to same standards and tests from several independent bodies have shown it to be completely safe.

Even in India, only the certain states have tests claiming that its unfit while others like Goa are saying that its safe.
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Thanks for the clarification.

I should be reading the newspapers on a more regular basis then. :P
 
Do you actually expect the Nestle CEO to accept that they are in the wrong? Wake up!

Response is different depending on the market. For ex. rat shit traces were found on coke/pepsi cans (I don't remember exactly which one) in Belgium, the CEO flew from US, apologized and promised that that will never happen again. Within a few days, pesticide was found in India, they promptly blamed the lab and poor water quality in India. Totally different responses depending on the value of life in each market. Sad, but true.

While blaming India for poor input quality is easy, companies conveniently forget to mention that they don't bother to use appropriate technology (like micro-/ultra-filtration) to remove contaminants in water before adding carbon dioxide, (toxic)flavors & sugar to peddle them. If they really are bothered about our health, they would use available tech to make foods safer, but...

Forget quality of food - labeling itself is different reg. disclosure of ingredients - compare packing of any product, even non-food - say hair dye in US and India.
 
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I simply don't get why anyone would expect a company to worry for consumers health.
Their mission starts and ends with profiteering.

If you are worried about your health, choose and cook your own food (thats why we have families).
And if you think you have any good reason for eating pre-processed food, pray before you eat.
 
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Jambumali said:
Do you actually expect the Nestle CEO to accept that they are in the wrong? Wake up!

Response is different depending on the market. For ex. rat shit traces were found on coke/pepsi cans (I don't remember exactly which one) in Belgium, the CEO flew from US, apologized and promised that that will never happen again. Within a few days, pesticide was found in India, they promptly blamed the lab and poor water quality in India. Totally different responses depending on the value of life in each market. Sad, but true.

While blaming India for poor input quality is easy, companies conveniently forget to mention that they don't bother to use appropriate technology (like micro-/ultra-filtration) to remove contaminants in water before adding carbon dioxide, (toxic)flavors & sugar to peddle them. If they really are bothered about our health, they would use available tech to make foods safer, but...

Forget quality of food - labeling itself is different reg. disclosure of ingredients - compare packing of any product, even non-food - say hair dye in US and India.
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^^Huh, Why should they bother about our health regardless of the country? They are not running a charity you know. As a corporate, they will do whatever is necessary to reel in profits and they will not do anything that is not necessary and incurs a cost.

The onus for maintaining safety standards is on the govt of the country and sadly ours is more interested in playing politics and promoting their own black money businesses. It is absurd to expect a corporate to voluntarily add more overheads on their processes based on country to ensure safety when the govt does not define any standards.
 
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Agreed. Add to that the utter guarantee that one can get away with anything as long as one has the right pull.

Reg. companies spending more to maintain standards - they need to, if they wish to claim compliance with "international standards" - Again, they are smug in the fact that in India, no one has the wherewithal/interest to check and penalize them. For ex., I don't know how it came, but initial packets of chips by many companies like Lehar, Uncle Chipps, used to have compliance with Virginia Food Association printed in the back cover ( I don't use the very widely used "back side";)) , always wondered Virginia?! who will check them against Virginia standards?!
 
onlyravi said:
If it was USA or EU by now Nestle would have faced class action suits and very well be out of business for that one product atleast.
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I donot know much about EU, but I have done some reading on US food scene. Food (and Biotech) companies are just plain evil. The have become masters of lobbying, deceptive practices and fooling customers.

It was an American named Ancel Keys who promoted the myth that low fat food is good for health and heart (he is the originator of the 'low-fat' craze). The man who held the opposite point of view, a Brit named John Yudkin, was out-shouted and Keys' flawed recommendations got into textbooks all over the world. The food companies, whose only concern is taste, responded by creating 'low-fat' line of products which had high quantities of sugar. The results: per-capita consumption of sugar in US is > 50Kg per year. The incidence of heart disease has not reduced and people (especially the poorer ones) are getting fatter and sick.

During my last health check up, the dietician asked me reduce my meat and fat intake :) I told her to f*** off and walked out.

Here is another evidence of how screwed the system is. The food pyramid, which is a eating recommended by the govt, is published by the US department of agriculture. Needless to say, the recommendations are motivated by their desire to sell the agricultural produce.

[DOUBLEPOST=1433601275][/DOUBLEPOST]Some more tidbit. In spite of popular demand, US does not require food companies to label GMO derived foods. No one wants to touch the likes of Monsanto and Du Pont.
 
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It's a good thing they are making an example out of this maggi situation, it just might deter others from providing sub standard products.
Nestle is no saint either, their statement about maintaining same standards everywhere is laughable, just compare a kit-kat bar from abroad to the shit that's sold here. Also the degrading quality i've observed as a consumer of Nescafe for the past 15 years is clearly evident.
They are not any different from other greedy corporations, here's an interview with the older ceo that had raised eyebrows two years back.

 
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nimod said:
If you are worried about your health, choose and cook your own food (thats why we have families).
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I wish it was this easy. Ever had to deal with a kid who wants to eat every new thing he/she sees on TV?

Even choosing food is not simple. I want to avoid GM foods but I do not know how . I am quite certain all baby corn available in Bangalore is genetically modified (BT). Same for sunflower and soya (whose oils are sold as healthy). Monsanto has been doing its job quietly and effectively.

Food environment is important and I am glad the govt/activists are getting involved.
 
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Sometime back when Lotte Choco Pie was launched in India, the packs were imported from Turkey. By habit I went over all the ingredients and found that it contained beef extract! When I asked the shopkeeper, he was equally shocked. After a few weeks, that portion of the label was covered with matching color red sticker,and further down, it was not even mentioned.

Nowadays loads of processed food is being imported from Turkey, Malaysia, Thailand etc., one has to be careful.

Yeah, processed food will always have issues. Hopefully people will become more aware of the same, read labels and buy.
 
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dpandey said:
I wish it was this easy. Ever had to deal with a kid who wants to eat every new thing he/she sees on TV?
Even choosing food is not simple. I want to avoid GM foods but I do not know how .
I am quite certain all baby corn available in Bangalore is genetically modified (BT).
Same for sunflower and soya (whose oils are sold as healthy). Monsanto has been doing its job quietly and effectively.
Food environment is important and I am glad the govt/activists are getting involved.
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How come your kids are controlling the family diet? what happened to the grah'lakshmi?
We inherited the best things available on earth. But we are choosing the worst.

Soya-products were banned in family about 6 years back when I read about its toxic contents.
Sunflower oil is secondary cooking oil in my home. I am going to ban this also. Now we will use coconut oil.
For this silent Monsanto, we can file an RTI with ministry of agriculture asking for which crops GM seeds are permitted and in which parts of our country.

and finally, why do we think that we are duty bound to provide our kids whats shown/told on TV?
My question is not about only the food, but education, living facilites and every other thing.

chetansha said:
@jaydipmori
so you saying sab ka saath, sab ka vikaas (pm Modi ka byline)= sab ka vinash?
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ना हो किसी का साथ, तो होगा केवल मोदी जी का 'विकास'।
 
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Lord Nemesis said:
I don't know whether Maggi contains a overdose of MSG or not, but I strongly believe that this is a deliberate smear campaign against Maggi and Nestle. There are dozens of other less reputed and dubious instant noodle brands, so why the limelight on Maggi explicitly which is the best selling brand? Why hasn't there been a comparison to a similar product of another brand. Do these so called bodies and the govt have any intention to do the same tests on the competing products?

By feeling is that this maybe a result of lobbying by competitors or there maybe other political reasons.
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because its a staple for so many people. as to why examine the initial reports. Wasn't it some guy who got sick and then had it tested and filed a court case. just snowballed after.
 
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