Maggi and the soup its in

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nimod said:
How come your kids are controlling the family diet? what happened to the grah'lakshmi?
We inherited the best things available on earth. But we are choosing the worst.

Soya-products were banned in family about 6 years back when I read about its toxic contents.
Sunflower oil is secondary cooking oil in my home. I am going to ban this also. Now we will use coconut oil.
For this silent Monsanto, we can file an RTI with ministry of agriculture asking for which crops GM seeds are permitted and in which parts of our country.

and finally, why do we think that we are duty bound to provide our kids whats shown/told on TV?
My question is not about only the food, but education, living facilites and every other thing.


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Good job. Meanwhile do not forget to add milk and baby foods on the list of items to be banned at home. It has higher pesticide content than any of the foods you banned.

http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Issue/pn25/pn25p14a.htm

I do not know what happened to grah'lakshmi (or what it is), but if you can list the foods you consume on daily basis (and did buy them from the country which inherited best practices), i can help you with reasons to ban all of them.
 
okay guys i went to the market to buy maggi but they aren't giving me any! They HAVE them but then DONT want to sell them even when i insisted. They told me that they are going to ship them all back to Nestle India. There goes one of my fav. quick meal. :(
On a side note, for how long do you really cook the maggi noodles? I dont think that its gonna be "2 minutes" :P
ps: i do 10 mins.
 
Lord Nemesis said:
Not so. Nestle CEO has made several responses on the issue. As per his claims, Maggi sold outside India is also made to same standards and tests from several independent bodies have shown it to be completely safe.

Even in India, only the certain states have tests claiming that its unfit while others like Goa are saying that its safe.
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And West Bengal. The CM herself made the comment. Its strange because earlier news reports said the tests were done in Kolkata labs. O.o[DOUBLEPOST=1433774045][/DOUBLEPOST]@dpandey such knowledge much wow. :D
 
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iPwnz said:
okay guys i went to the market to buy maggi but they aren't giving me any! They HAVE them but then DONT want to sell them even when i insisted. They told me that they are going to ship them all back to Nestle India. There goes one of my fav. quick meal. :(
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Give Patanjali Maggi a try. It's really good.
 
Lord Nemesis said:
Not so. Nestle CEO has made several responses on the issue. As per his claims, Maggi sold outside India is also made to same standards and tests from several independent bodies have shown it to be completely safe.
Even in India, only the certain states have tests claiming that its unfit while others like Goa are saying that its safe.
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The key is how the testing is done.
Nestle says mix the masala and noodles in water and then test. That way certainly the entire thing is diluted... volume is increased and the ppm levels goes down.
FDA in many states have tested the noodles dry and the masala seperate. Which is more correct because they sell it as different entities even though in same package.
If it is really to be consumed always mixed then FDA argues why doesn't Nestle sell it premixed....

Anyways... for the consumer if if they mix in water and eat then also the level of toxic material is same ... so how the hell does that matter Nestle ????
Nestle claiming maggi is safe is like Afzal Guru claiming that he is a Indian Freedom Fighter :-p
 
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This is nothing but conspiracy to push nestle out of india and make way for indian brands.Maggi has been eaten for 30+ years now in india.There is no lead in it its just governmental bullshit.
 
bond_bhai said:
Please!
Patanjali does not make any kind of noodles or maggi (1/2)http://t.co/h3IIFHVvZY— Swami Ramdev (@yogrishiramdev)
June 6, 2015

Also,
India manufactured Maggi noodles meet safety standards in Singapore

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...i-noodles-meet-safety-standards-in-singapore/

Now, i am not sure if the "quality" of exported goods is same as the ones sold locally. But, there it is. Nestle can mock Indian regulators saying, "well we didnt know India had such high standards".
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Same stuff is exported all over the world.Its nothing but a conspiracy to push nestle out of indian markets.
 
onlyravi said:
The key is how the testing is done.
Nestle says mix the masala and noodles in water and then test. That way certainly the entire thing is diluted... volume is increased and the ppm levels goes down.
FDA in many states have tested the noodles dry and the masala seperate. Which is more correct because they sell it as different entities even though in same package.
If it is really to be consumed always mixed then FDA argues why doesn't Nestle sell it premixed....

Anyways... for the consumer if if they mix in water and eat then also the level of toxic material is same ... so how the hell does that matter Nestle ????
Nestle claiming maggi is safe is like Afzal Guru claiming that he is a Indian Freedom Fighter :p
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Are you kidding? Why do you think the ppm does not matter?

Is putting a tablespoonful of chili power directly in your mouth same as putting that quantity in a 250 gm of curry and then eating the curry?
Is putting your hand in a liter of concentrated acid same as pouring that acid in a pond or river and then putting your hand in that water.

Vitamim's are highly toxic to human body, yet, here we are consuming fruits and vegetables that have vitamins. You also get C vitamin tabs in bottles of 100 and B complex in strips of 20 capsules. You would die if you consume the whole dose at once. Yet the same consumption quantity is useful if you take it as per prescribed way. Concentration and quantity is what separates it from being a fatal substance to a vital mineral.

FYI, Glutamate is also essential for the body. People who consume a lot of veggies are in fact consuming more of it than somebody who is consuming Maggi where the source for it is MSG.
 
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Lord Nemesis said:
Are you kidding? Why do you think the ppm does not matter?

Is putting your hand in a liter of concentrated acid same as pouring that acid in a pond or river and then putting your hand in that water.
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Wow. From where did you get that analogy?
Look, 1 Maggi, 1 masala packet.

It stays the same. Its not as if you make one maggi, and then have 1 bite each.
So it remains the same.
 
Lord Nemesis said:
Are you kidding? Why do you think the ppm does not matter?
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I dont know how you got the impression of me thinking that PPM does not matter....
I just highlighted the two diff ways of testing and the argument given by both FDA and Nestle.
Nestle says mix up everything and then check ppm levels of minerals, etc.
FDA says if you are selling it as physically separate products they should pass the norms independently...
And I agree with FDA on this one. Thats it.
If we go by Nestle's testing style then some liquor company will say that mix their booze with coke/soda/water and then test alcohol levels coz generally no one drinks neat :D
 
^^ you guys should be debating on the serving size rather than PPM.

i am assuming what what the testing centers are saying that lead and MSG content in a packet of maggi is too high for one time consumption per person. now, whether you make maggi in 1 liter of water (low PPM) or 2 cups (high PPM), in the end, you are ingesting the same amount of bad stuff.

if you are making a packet of maggi in 6000 liters of water, to be consumed over a period of 5 years, then the very same maggi may pass the food safety test. :p

bond_bhai said:
Now, i am not sure if the "quality" of exported goods is same as the ones sold locally.
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there are no surprises here. stuff meant for export is always of the best quality; whether it's a paper notebook, mangoes or maggi.
 
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I highlighted that in my very first post of this thread... Amount of salt in a packet of maggi == 70% of what an adult should ideally consume in a day.

onlyravi said:
Funny thing is even if we forget MSG and Lead for a moment, A pair of maggi cake contains so much salt that it amounts to about 70% salt recommended for an adult in a day. That is the biggest danger of eating maggi frequently.
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And OT but amusing...
Ajinomoto is a Japanese company which is a world leading producer of Glutamine used to make MSG.
But in India like one would go to a shop and ask for Colgate instead of toothpaste you will find people asking for Ajinomoto instead of MSG. I am not even sure if it has any name in Indian regional languages.
 
AMG said:
Wow. From where did you get that analogy?
Look, 1 Maggi, 1 masala packet.

It stays the same. Its not as if you make one maggi, and then have 1 bite each.
So it remains the same.
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Yes, it remains the same, but it is the whole 150 gm (noodles + water) that need be considered as the total material weight because that taste maker packet was made for that quantity.
While some times, total quantity may also matter, most of the time, concentration levels matter regardless of quantity. That is why fatal dosages of substances are mentioned in concentration units like ppm or weight/weight etc.

If you drink 3 liter of water in one go, you will die because your blood will be diluted. You still have the same amount of the blood cells, but the change in concentration will kill you.

AMG said:
FDA says if you are selling it as physically separate products they should pass the norms independently...
And I agree with FDA on this one. Thats it.
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I have not seen maggi noodles and taste maker packets being sold separately at separate prices. It is one product if its packaged in a single unit and is not sold separately.

That FDA logic is ridiculous if it disregards how a product or part of a product is supposed to be used and only comes as something that only the dumbest of idiots would come up with and I think they baked this one out of their ass specifically for Nestle and Maggi. Majority of products in the market could be removed using such nonsensical logic.
 
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Look mate.
What you are essentially saying is that if I take 50 sleeping pills, I will die.
But if I take 50 sleeping pills wrapped in 50 bananas, I will not, because the concentration levels will be less.
 
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^^ Oh Please.. are you stupid?, trying to act stupid or simply don't comprehend language or don't comprehend science?
What I am saying is that absolute quantity is not the only thing that matters. Get it through your head.

You put a spoonful of chili in your mouth and it will burn your taste buds off your tongue. You dilute the same quantity of chili in a larger quantity of food and eat it all in one go and it would not do any harm.

Coming back to your sleeping pills and bananas logic, I hope you realized that you will die if you try to eat 50 bananas even without the pills. So lets take the example of a more reasonable dose. Lets say 5 sleeping pills at one go is a fatal dose and you would die in 30 min. Do you think if you put the same 5 pills in 5 pieces of banana and swallowed them (so as not to chew the pills), it would take the same 30 min. It won't. Because of the change in concentration and the amount of extra matter added, it would take much more time to absorb and to act. What about dissolving those 5 pills in a glass of water and drinking that. It is much more easy form to absorb, So you might die in less than 30 min. In fact, even 3 pills might be enough to kill instead of 5.
 
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