Post your overclocks !

If it overclocks well or no,doesnt matter to me but i want those Twinmos sticks with BH-5 just for the heck of it.
Come on guys, its a legend.
 
@ crazy eddy,
Since many guys have shown an interest in these modules. why dont we organise an MO (Mass order). sure , you will have to take the trouble and pain to visually inspect and segregate these rams from the generic lots of ur dealer but if you are willing to take that trouble for members of TE, and mankind in general,
we can do it.

by MO You can get a better deal from ur dealers due to large quantity.

if you are willing, and subject to avialibility of these modules, we can arrange an initial MO of say 20 256mb modules. so talk to your dealer and post a reasonable price for it.

my initial order is 2 modules confirmed.

so if it is possible for you to do MO kindly post here ......
 
From Anandtech
The new DFI nForce4 boards support CAS 1.5 as a BIOS choice, and possibly a few other high-end boards. CAS 1.5 sounds impressive, but AMD tells us that they do not support CAS 1.5 in their on-chip memory controller. And the memory controller is on the AMD chip after all - and not on the motherboard. Our own tests several weeks ago comparing CAS 1.5 and CAS 2.0 on the DFI board did not find any performance difference in these two CAS timings using an AMD processor.
 
rahul3111 said:
From Anandtech

"The new DFI nForce4 boards support CAS 1.5 as a BIOS choice, and possibly a few other high-end boards. CAS 1.5 sounds impressive, but AMD tells us that they do not support CAS 1.5 in their on-chip memory controller. And the memory controller is on the AMD chip after all - and not on the motherboard. Our own tests several weeks ago comparing CAS 1.5 and CAS 2.0 on the DFI board did not find any performance difference in these two CAS timings using an AMD processor."
well i get an increase of 80 to 100 points in the synthetic benchies like Everest and Sandra when i go from Cas 2 to Cas 1.5.
in real life situations it will be practically unnoticable.
 
Thats would be error too.
I run the test multiple time i get different results each time when it comes to memory bandwidth tests.
So 80 point difference is nothing too much to be honest.
Its there to show off ;)
 
First shot at XtremeSystems database :P ! For 32M SuperPi run @ 2.5-3-3-8 !

Frankly kinda unbelievable and unexpected personally, but managed to take 2 x 512 MB PC3200 PDP Patriot XBLK to 290MHz 1:1 1T. Here's PDP trying to catch up with the likes of G.Skill PC4800 and 4400 !

source:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53290&page=1

2x512MB

TRCD=3

amrgb - 302x8=2416MHz DDR604 @ 6-3-3-2.5-1T - DFI Ultra-D S939 (NF4 Ultra) - A64 Winchester - Gskill PC4400LE
formyfaith - 300x9=2700MHz DDR600 @ 5-3-3-2.5-1T - DFI Ultra-D S939 (NF4 Ultra) - A64 San Diego - Gskill PC4800FF
Onepagebook - 300x9=2700MHz DDR600 @ 6-3-3-2.5-1T - DFI SLI-DR S939 (NF4 SLi) - A64 FX ClawHammer - Gskill PC4800FF
eraser - 290x9=2610MHz DDR580 @ 7-3-3-2.5-1T - DFI Ultra-D S939 (NF4 Ultra) - A64 Winchester - Twinmos TwisterPro PC3200
JediMaster - 290x9=2610MHz DDR580 @ 8-3-3-2.5-1T - DFI Ultra-D S939 (NF4 Ultra) - A64 Venice - PDP Patriot XBLK PC3200
Mrki - 346x9=3114MHz DDR566 @ 7-3-3-2.5-1T - DFI SLI-DR S939 (NF4 SLi) - A64 Winchester - OCZ EL PC3200 Rev2
4X4N - 270x10=2700MHz DDR540 @ 8-3-3-2.5-1T - DFI Ultra-D S939 (NF4 Ultra) - A64 Venice - OCZ EL PC3200 Rev2 (TCC5)
JDizzle - 265x10=2650MHz DDR530 @ 7-3-3-2.5-1T - DFI UT S754 (NF3 250Gb) - A64 Newcastle - Kingston HyperX

TRCD=4
TheMeatFrog - 321x9=2568MHz DDR642 @ 8-3-4-2.5-1T - DFI Ultra-D S939 (NF4 Ultra) - A64 Venice - Gskill PC4800LA
BioPC - 320x0=2560MHz DDR640 @ 7-3-4-2.5-1T - DFI Ultra-D S939 (NF4 Ultra) - A64 Winchester - OCZ EL PC3200 Rev2 (TCC5)
...

And if you compare the total run times between TwisterPro and PDP made with identical CPU times, PDP seems to be faster by nearly a full minute !

I'm wondering really, aren't there that many 512 sticks out there which can do 32M SuperPi stably at ~DDR600 ? And mind you this is a test of only the RAM and not the CPU since you could use a multiplier as low as 7 to remove the CPU out of the equation. But I did keep the multiplier at the stock value of 9 to test the memory controller also.

The interesting thing is I made the 32M run at stock Vdimm of 2.7V. Bottle's PDP, which probably is of the older type TCCD, may have a chance to do even better. You should give it a shot Bottle ! And there is a OCZ TCC5 which does a breathtaking 320MHz @ 2.5-4-3-7..hint..hint...Masky ! At 2.5-4-3-8 PDP does at the minimum 305 MHz based on my initial tests.

And Darky, deejay, Masky and others with VX and low latency RAMs, there is a similar thread for such types here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62056
 
@ jediMaster,

Good effort there .!!:cool2:
inspired by this here are some provisional screenies which i just finished.

in the first pic.....

Cpu = 290fsb

memory = 237.XX fsb, 2-2-2-5 , 3.1V

and all the latency settings are at default (Auto)

In the pic below. the cpu and mem speed is the same as the first one but the latencies have been "partially" tweaked as can be seen in the A64 tweak shot.


BTW the time in the second picture was 28: 24S
A difference of 33 Seconds after partial tweaking of the latencies.

will optimise a bit more ......and post it here.
 
JediMaster!

Gr8 scores man.. and Congratulations to making it on that list at XS ;)

deejay said:
inspired by this..

definitely!!! I was all fired up to do some tweaking myself.. but turns out thats what not enough to move my lazy ass around, replace the RAM/CPu n all.. :ohyeah:
 
funkymonkey said:
Thats would be error too.

I run the test multiple time i get different results each time when it comes to memory bandwidth tests.

So 80 point difference is nothing too much to be honest.

;)
Wow, Really !!! i did not know that ....:huh: (oh lord !!!!)
its good to learn from experts and Gurus here.
Re: Its there to show off : Do i need to ...???:huh:

I do not have to "prove" myself. i generally post pic here so that it may help or motivate others to get the most out of their investments.

Anyways i am too poor to show off.
 
heh i mean to impress others with pure numbers :P
No need to prove anything to anyone. But CL1.5 sounds and looks impressive. thats what i meant to say :D
 
Superpi 32 M update:
But first can anybody tell me how can i enlarge or scroll down the entries on the main super pi window. ??

When the tests finish i get another small window informing PI calculations done. however during this time i cannot move / enlarge or scroll the main Super PI window. and when i click ok on the small finished window the display on the main super PI window changes to the summary data, as seen in the 3rd pic below (giving the best scores of the various iterations like 1M ,8M 32 M etc ...)
Anyways here are the screenies....

Cpu= 292

Mem = 239 , 2-2-2-5

Time = 28.m 16s

here are some sub 28 minutes .....

Cpu = 293

Mem = 240 , @ CAS 1.5-2-2-5 , Idle Cycle limit reduced to 16 from 256.


The score was 27m.56s as seen from the pic below.

I reran the test without rebooting and i got 27m.54s
 
deejay said:
Superpi 32 M update:
But first can anybody tell me how can i enlarge or scroll down the entries on the main super pi window. ??

When the tests finish i get another small window informing PI calculations done. however during this time i cannot move / enlarge or scroll the main Super PI window. and when i click ok on the small finished window the display on the main super PI window changes to the summary data, as seen in the 3rd pic below (giving the best scores of the various iterations like 1M ,8M 32 M etc ...)

Increase the resolution on the desktop.. then englarge the SuperPi window (vertically) sufficiently.. that shud do the trick :D

TheMask posted 1.27 minutes later:

yep.. those are some good figures u maitaining.. worth the work out eh.. ;)

perhaps we shud ahve a seperate thread for Super Pi scores.. wud make comparing the scores easier :D
 
deejay said:
@ crazy eddy,
Since many guys have shown an interest in these modules. why dont we organise an MO (Mass order). sure , you will have to take the trouble and pain to visually inspect and segregate these rams from the generic lots of ur dealer but if you are willing to take that trouble for members of TE, and mankind in general,
we can do it.

by MO You can get a better deal from ur dealers due to large quantity.

if you are willing, and subject to avialibility of these modules, we can arrange an initial MO of say 20 256mb modules. so talk to your dealer and post a reasonable price for it.

my initial order is 2 modules confirmed.

so if it is possible for you to do MO kindly post here ......

I think this is a great idea ! please tell us if your okay with this , eddy
 
Deejay said:
so if it is possible for you to do MO kindly post here ......

Wow, dint know the demand was so huge. Will think about it, pay the shop a visit and get back to you guys :)

Again i'd like to re-iterate: these arent super-sticks, so far i have gone only as high as 240Mhz on them at 2-2-2-5, i'm gradually burning them in , tweaking around settings to see how much higher I can go. I'll be very honest - my knowledge on RAM settings is very very limited, so I might not make the best of these sticks. Either way please dont have the impression that you're going to see some major speeds out of these, i wouldnt want to order for you guys and then leave you disappointed :).

CH-based UTTs (read OCZ VX) are more suitable for high speeds, the BH-based stuff is more about tight timings at lower voltages - which I confirmed as I could do 2-2-2-5 settings at 2.6V's.

The new DFI nForce4 boards support CAS 1.5 as a BIOS choice, and possibly a few other high-end boards. CAS 1.5 sounds impressive, but AMD tells us that they do not support CAS 1.5 in their on-chip memory controller. And the memory controller is on the AMD chip after all - and not on the motherboard. Our own tests several weeks ago comparing CAS 1.5 and CAS 2.0 on the DFI board did not find any performance difference in these two CAS timings using an AMD processor.

That looks quite true, as I saw a very very minute or almost negligible difference in scores with CAS 1.5.

JediMaster said:
First shot at XtremeSystems database :P ! For 32M SuperPi run @ 2.5-3-3-8 !

Frankly kinda unbelievable and unexpected personally, but managed to take 2 x 512 MB PC3200 PDP Patriot XBLK to 290MHz 1:1 1T. Here's PDP trying to catch up with the likes of G.Skill PC4800 and 4400 !

Go Jedi Go! The Force is strong with you :ohyeah:

Nice to see someone from TE battling it up with the big boys there!!:hap2:

TheMask said:
perhaps we shud ahve a seperate thread for Super Pi scores.. wud make comparing the scores easier

Remember bottle made a thread for this.. here it is : :D

http://www.techenclave.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2272
 
Yup, Crazy we want low latency stuff.

imho, low latency rams at 250 mhz is about equal to a high latency ram @ 280 ~ 300 mhz in actual, real life performance.

do let us know asap the avialibility of these.

BTW, could you post a close up picture of ur module.

and yes as mentioned previously there is a very slight difference between cas 2 and cas 1.5 , probably around <= 1 %. hardly noticable in real life applications.
 
Sorry, no cam with me, so cant post any pics of the module.
Can do my best to describe them though:
- First level of identification, the TwinMos warranty sticker with the P/N having the last 4 characters as "1A4T"
- "M.Tec" labelled ICs with the traditional characteristic of Winbond ICs - two dimples on the IC

If possible, will try getting a pic of them soon.
 
Crazy_Eddy said:
Sorry, no cam with me, so cant post any pics of the module.

Can do my best to describe them though:

- First level of identification, the TwinMos warranty sticker with the P/N having the last 4 characters as "1A4T"

- "M.Tec" labelled ICs with the traditional characteristic of Winbond ICs - two dimples on the IC
If possible, will try getting a pic of them soon.
That info is good enough.
see http://www.techenclave.com/forums/showpost.php?p=48010&postcount=21 ;)