my stand is clear i dont want to get involved and get stuck in legal issues.See the way JAK portrait this situation shows Ganesh somehow selling stolen stuff bought from online stores, So if we have Details of the sellers hikvision sold the drives we can reach them with the serial number and can ask them what happen to those drives. It's quite possible they were bought online and later ganesh raised the claim for not receiving them and got the money back and the drives and later he sold the drives here.
But why would JAK want to hide this is he in the same boat he is doing the same thing with the sellers online?
I don't think you can compare a physical establishment with registered documentation and a much higher risk of prosecution for illegal activity with a virtually anonymous seller on a forum. Since I've worked in IT i have seen people steal stuff so they can sell them with my own eyes.Also back to topic - I don't think it is fair to ask a seller for source of goods. Try doing that in any store anywhere. You don't know if he's illegally procuring the goods.
exactly found the following on the internetLol.
Each one to his own
are you in the same boat as others who are doing GST fraud?But why would JAK want to hide this is he in the same boat he is doing the same thing with the sellers online?
So knowingly you bought the drives so buying stolen drives is again a crime so now u r also part of it. Now you will say later you got to know he was selling stolen drives.my stand is clear i dont want to get involved and get stuck in legal issues.
I have posted facts about the two drives i received from ganesh. read my message below.
bump wake up everyone. Lets continue the discussion here.So what did jak say. I am not able to make head nor tail out of it. My thread was locked by puns, as i did not post proof of purchase, i do have it but it is not required for warranty purposes, and i cannot share it as it will divulge...techenclave.com
If anything was wrongly mentioned then by now ganesh would have come barging with another id and refuted the above.
The two drives are a business transaction and i have mentioned the details of my findings in above post.
if you are willing to send me money to cover for legal fees and and loss in business due to legal issues then I may consider to disclose the names. otherwise please investigate on your own.
I have given a tip that's it. Take it or leave it.
I really dont care about the outcome of all the accusations or fights. I am here only for business.
exactly found the following on the internet
"Mera Desh Mahaan, 100 Mein Se 99 Beimaan"
this is why i dont want to involve myself in this.
are you in the same boat as others who are doing GST fraud?
are you buying items and selling them in cash and pocketing GST?
even i can make accusations and dig deeper with the invoices you have posted in your sale posts.
so dont make accusations without proof.
as regards to the info i have posted about the two drives i purchased from ganesh. I have the unboxing video of the HDD along with serial numbers received from ganesh and the email from my friend confirming where they were actually shipped. should the government authorities ask I will simply hand the info over to them.
last i checked i am a citizen of India and not of "karanistan" so i will decide and post whatever info i am comfortable to share.So knowingly you bought the drives so buying stolen drives is again a crime so now u r also part of it. Now you will say later you got to know he was selling stolen drives.
BTW why do u want to share the half part of the story and not the whole. When u did not wanted to be part of this then why did u even replied to the thread who sold the drives to whom ? And again why are u even replying to this I hope someone from some authority (someone forwarded the complain to some department) calls both the buyer and seller.
Please dig and get back to me, I'll wait for it. Please please prove it also do let me know what all u want from me I'll send it to u. Waiting.
above is what I have posted. so please read.I have been keenly observing things going on around the OP.
I have also purchased stuff from OP in the past.
2x Sealed Seagate Skyhawk 4TB to be exact which I then sold on Amazon.
unfortunately the buyers sent the drives back as they turned out defective. I managed to get them replaced through seagate service centre.
So I conclude that the products he sells carry official manufacturer warranty.
Infact recently I had sent a msg to ganesh to buy above 6TB drives
now comes the twist;
The Seagate HDD sold by OP are imported by PramaHikvision.
I have a friend who works in a company which is actually a RD under PramaHikvision for seagate surveillance. when someone here in the forum raised doubts about the origin of HDD sold by ganesh I got curious and asked him to trace serial nos of the drives which I have purchased from ganesh and info i got was surprising.
The two drives which i bough from ganesh were shipped to two different states and to two different resellers and yet somehow surprisingly they managed to land together with ganesh in a third state.
Now it is upto everyone in this forum to arrive at their own conclusion.
Frankly I am neither in favour nor against ganesh.
I didn't decide the winner... I asked everyone to suggest. One of the guys suggested to flip a coin and so there were multiple winners but some backed out as cost of shipping HDD was about 300 ... So eventually the remaining fellow collected everything.After these incidents, somewhat I'm suspicious about that giveaway as well... because the person who won so called lottery is again from GOA...
anyways I'm done with this thread as my Diwali holiday is over
If its a general product or item which cant be tracked then I'm good with it.So you are ok with buying and reselling goods whose source maybe shady?
last i checked i am a citizen of India and not of "karanistan" so i will decide and post whatever info i am comfortable to share.
If you have a problem please go and complain to whoever you want.
I don't think you can compare a physical establishment with registered documentation and a much higher risk of prosecution for illegal activity with a virtually anonymous seller on a forum. Since I've worked in IT i have seen people steal stuff so they can sell them with my own eyes.
In any case, I've now seen multiple people here say that they don't really care about the source as long as they get stuff cheap. Which kinda fits into the ends-justifying-means theme going on in the world today, socially and politically. Why should it be different here. So my bad. Shouldn't have bothered...
@rkkaranrk, Not even once have you said anything in this thread about Ganesh selling over 100 items without any invoice... Absolutely nothing. Most people here have atleast raised an eyebrow but you on the other hand started off on a completely different tone...
Your also appear to be indulged in some form of gst tax fraud based on your sale threads.
I have filed a complaint against you with with UP state for tax evasion and also to Income tax department.
Will follow it with a RTI to ensure you don't wriggle your way out.
Will get your last three years transactions scrutinized else will change my name.
Now ganesh and associates can continue with their allegations against me.
I am not a dealer or seller in any way so jealousy point is not applicable to me.TL;DR. Basically jealousy (and possibly shadyness) between dealers/resellers.
Honestly. With the amount of time this takes I hope its worth it for ya'll.
Also. When people say GST info is sensetive is BS. Using the number you can easily check if the number is genuine or not on GST.gov.in
Don't care about a community who doesn't address the elephant in the room and runs around trying to make allegations against me instead.You clearly don't know head or tail about being a member of the community when all you want to do is make baseless allegations.
Didn't you appeal for invoices to be made public in the sale threads. And we even thought it was a good point and agreed to support that.
But now if someone is still following that rule, you still continue to question them and make allegations against them and that too against members who have been regular contributing members for a decade.
I dunno man, if someone offered me a stolen 10k worth product for 100 bucks i still wouldn't buy it.If its a general product or item which cant be tracked then I'm good with it.
Even with cellphones as I know how to latch another IMEI to the phone. I have few very old phones who IMEIs I can use so the phone in question.
But never ever dealt with this situation but if the deal is mouth watering I might investigate, study and consider if its that worthy!
same way u are suspicious about my i7 giveaway.￼￼￼ How you are going to prove this?