25K+ Huge Dilemma: HTC One v/s Samsung Galaxy S4

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I'm quite surprised I haven't seen one of these threads already. Looking at the biggest flagship phones for this year (till now, and perhaps for the rest of the year from both HTC and Samsung), I'm looking to buy one of them. I simply don't know which one to pick.

- I love the HTC One design, though Galaxy S4's compact shell is great as well.
- I like Sense quite a lot, TouchWiz is okay. But it's the added Software tweaks by Samsung that make the experience quite amazing, if I am to believe the adds.
- The Galaxy S4 simply has a much better camera than the HTC One.
- The Super AMOLED display has it's advantages (Daydream, pure black) but the SLCD display is gorgeous as well.

As you can see, I'm pretty messed up here :D. Don't know what to do. Don't want to end up buying an UMI X2 (or a rumored Micromax Canvas A120) or something. Why would I do that?
- Priced around 15k
- 1080p display
- Quad core
- 2 GB RAM
- 13 MP cam
- Android 4.2.1 JB
 
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b00gieMan said:
If you want to talk about cheap phones, go for Oppo and Zopo
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I'll be getting my hands on review samples (maybe) during holidays. Hopefully I can form an opinion then

EDIT: Of many phones. Hope to use the HTC One and Galaxy S4 (if I get a chance to).


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I am using the HD as my main phone, software sux, seriously.
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Yup my friend has it here, it does suck. I don't like the colors off the display. There's this bluish tinge. Hoping UMI X2 or Zopo ZP980 is better. I would like a stand by phone actually then spending 40k on a phone I don't like (design wise or UI looks wise).

I'm waiting for HTC One Developer Edition to go official though. Spicy!
 
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raksrules said:
That's what these companies want you to believe. That 40k is very cheap for the awesome hardware and the gimmicky features. Else how would they convince the gullible people to buy overpriced phones. Also if one ends up putting a custom ROM which removes the gimmicky features then it is totally absurd to pay this price,
In fact considering ROM development before buying a phone is in itself stupid and screams that one totally ignores how good or bad the stock OS is and most importantly one is not wise if seeing all gimmick features and throwing 40k for the software and then ending up with custom rom. Rather buy nexus for 60% or so for the price.
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And what made you think, creating a custom ROM will loose all the gimmick features? How if I develop it on TWFramework? :p I am not talking about AOSP sh*t ;-) Nexus 4 is very good phone but I want to stay out AOSP for time being. Using it for quite a long time. And if you are comparing it with HTC One or Xperia Z, SGS4 has little edge. I am worried about people crying over look :p In fact I would not be surprised if guys here will start asking HTC One with Pink shades on it :p

Well, let me be frank. These phones are so powerful that they don't need custom ROM anymore.. Sharing a scenario here. I bought SGS more than three years back. Performance was super sluggish. We started experimenting on system files, file systems. How could we make it even better.. Found file system culprit, deodexed apps, zipaligned with Google's own tools. These tweaks really worked, made our phone super smooth. Later Samsung started adopting changes we made in community (SGS I9000 Section of XDA). Almost 60-70% of tweaks were included in updates of SGS3 and other phones by Samsung. Samsung hired some of the very good developers from XDA itself. Voodoo founder Simon still provide audio tweaks to Samsung, they implement it. TW is not that bad anymore :) I am developing ROM because I like customizing it in my own way. I share it in community so that somebody will find it useful :-)

All we need to change File system and deodex apps. This will make your phone enough smooth. UI choice is taste of individual. :)
 
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^^The reason you are defending price and Custom ROMs because you are yourself involved in this activity. But i am just concerned that why cannot the phone be used as it is always, why always custom ROMs are needed ? Just because the stock is incapable ? Custom ROM should be an added advantage for advanced users rather than deciding factor to buy the phone. And yes whatever the features are there, these phones are still overpriced. So no point justifying that phone is 40K because it has this and that.
And yes before anyways raises the point, i would also say, iPhones are also overpriced.
 
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raksrules said:
^^The reason you are defending price and Custom ROMs because you are yourself involved in this activity. But i am just concerned that why cannot the phone be used as it is always, why always custom ROMs are needed ? Just because the stock is incapable ? Custom ROM should be an added advantage for advanced users rather than deciding factor to buy the phone. And yes whatever the features are there, these phones are still overpriced. So no point justifying that phone is 40K because it has this and that.
And yes before anyways raises the point, i would also say, iPhones are also overpriced.
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Exactly.. That's what I said later. These phones don't need Custom ROMs anymore. And I am not defending this phone because I AM INVOLVED in this activity. I am saying every flagship phone is priced at that range because all the hardware specs. It has been happening since ages. This happenes with other devices as well. Graphics card costs around 30-40k when it gets released. I am saying that people should stop complaining about price factors. It's not like the phone sucks. In fact it is the best phone out there in market. Almost every review out there is positive (except build quality, which I don't care about). Well, the phone deserves to be the best smartphone in market. HTC One is the second phone I would pick..

I am not defending anything. Neither I care nor I am involved in fake review and comment attempt by Samsung Korea :D . I always said HTC One is awesome phone but SGS4 has some edge ;-)
 
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raksrules said:
^^The reason you are defending price and Custom ROMs because you are yourself involved in this activity. But i am just concerned that why cannot the phone be used as it is always, why always custom ROMs are needed ? Just because the stock is incapable ? Custom ROM should be an added advantage for advanced users rather than deciding factor to buy the phone. And yes whatever the features are there, these phones are still overpriced. So no point justifying that phone is 40K because it has this and that.
And yes before anyways raises the point, i would also say, iPhones are also overpriced.
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i totally agree with you 40K is a big amount to pay for a mobile phone.that amount can easily buy a LAPTOP.companies are overpricing these mobile devices .the manufacturing cost is way less less.(i guess 15k for a SGS4).
when i compared nexus 4 with these devices,i found out that the processor and GPU are the revised version of same snapdragon S4 pro chipset krait 300 architecture with increased clock frequency upto 1.9 Ghz from former 1.7 Ghz. and same adreno 320 GPU.
these new devices contains a better resolution screen and camera and apart from that, there are only software tweeks.
i don't see the point of spending such amount over minor(5-20% improvement).
if NEXUS 4 retails at 400$ and company still makes profit,then SGS4 and HTC one are definitely overpriced.
and if i decide to pay such an amount for a phone,then it should be BEST OUT OF THE BOX and must not need any ROM/software to improve its performance or whatever.
 
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Aman27deep said:
Of course he knows what he means. He has even made ROMs for the Xperia sola.

What the hell is wrong with you mate? You're not the only 'expert' here.
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Am i supposed to know that he's made a rom himself? Roflmfao the matter is with you? You consider whatever comes to ur mind? Expert? Seriously? Did I ever say that? Geeez..

Anyway I asked him coz the concept of "developer edition" is ridiculous.
 
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comp@ddict said:
If I don't manage to zero in on anything, I might as well buy a 14k phone and use it for 6 months

http://www.facebook.com/umimobile
Looks tastier and tastier by the day. I can literally throw the phone away if I use it for a year. But it would really be a nice stop gap if I'm to wait for say, the Nexus 5 or Nexus X.
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FINALLY!


@raksrules Custom ROMs aren't a necessity. They do however provide the extra customisation if one desires. Case in point. My father and I both have a Note. He uses official jellybean and I use a custom Touchwiz based rom. I am so used to the customisations on my phone that I find my fathers phone practically unusable.
 
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comp@ddict said:
Looks tastier and tastier by the day. I can literally throw the phone away if I use it for a year. But it would really be a nice stop gap if I'm to wait for say, the Nexus 5 or Nexus X.
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In case you buy the phone and decide to buy something after an year, please do not throw away the phone, just donate it to me as i would think twice before throwing away a 15K phone just because i am going to buy a new one. :)
 
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raksrules said:
In case you buy the phone and decide to buy something after an year, please do not throw away the phone, just donate it to me as i would think twice before throwing away a 15K phone just because i am going to buy a new one. :)
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You know I didn't mean it "literally" (-_-)

Guys, after the entire debate over these two phones, at least one conclusion has been reached. Owing to:

- Non attractive UI
- Lackluster design
- Low internal storage (despite such high price)

Galaxy S4 is simply chucked out of the competition. I'm all in for an HTC One (but DEVELOPER's EDITION with WARRANTY, 64 GB internal storage and UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER for happy kernel flashing). And the only other phone(s) to compare are Xperia Z and ZL.

So the final question would be:

"Is it worth spending 10k extra on the HTC One over an already stunning Xperia Z or do I get the super compact Xperia ZL which is cheaper by another 1-2k?"


EDIT: When does the HTC One go on sale btw?
 
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Err..

- Low internal storage (despite such high price)
That is exactly why you have the expandable memory slot.

The other two negatives which u mentioned: Abt the UI and Looks.. You have the ROMs for that and really the looks are not that bad that you ll be chucking S4 out of the equation. But again, have noticed that these two are personal preferences, with due importance given by people to remove an option absolutely from the list of probables. Esp the Looks part. Different strokes i am guessing.

HTC's :
Poor and Pathetic Aftersales service
Bad support for the software
Non Removable battery
Non Expandable memory

I think these are good enuf reasons to kick it out of contention. Atleast in the Indian scenario.
I am a proponent of the mem card slot not only cuz u get to have a choice of memory expansion, but also u can keep sensitive data safe by yanking the card out w.e giving phone for repairs. The people at CC are without scruples.


Xperia Z is a wonderful phone. No brainer choice really.
Its well made, good looking and will have good dev support and official support as well by the looks of the noise made by Sony corp.
People complain about the bad viewing LCD angles, but really.. does the phone owener needs to look at it from sideways?
 
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