Not bogus, but ineffective. I doubt it changed anyone's mind.This is such a bogus argument. Just because someone didn't raise their voice in the past shouldn't be allowed to raise it in the future.
Not bogus, but ineffective. I doubt it changed anyone's mind.This is such a bogus argument. Just because someone didn't raise their voice in the past shouldn't be allowed to raise it in the future.
Thanks for sharing this. I see that I was in the wrong camp on my University's quad in terms of getting money, unlike earlier claims.Looks like funding is coming from everywhere
Pay walled. Post the text if you canLooks like funding is coming from everywhere
As far as the title goes, columbia is a private university. Unless the cops are called they cannot enter. My first thought is this article wants to whitewash the Columbia boards decision and point the finger elsewhere ie. insinuate Mayor wants contributions for his 2025 campaign and in exchange will clampdown
Exactly“Any suggestion that other considerations were involved in the decision-making process is completely false,” Deputy mayor Fabien Levy said. He added, “The insinuation that Jewish donors secretly plotted to influence government operations is an all too familiar antisemitic trope that the Washington Post should be ashamed to ask about, let alone normalize in print.”
At least they admitted it.In the chat, discussion turned to the fact that Columbia had to grant Adams permission before he could send city police to the campus.
Wouldn't have to do this if the media did its job. But the liberal media is anti Israel, anti Israel government (because it's right wing) and anti Bibi. And went wholesale with the Hamas narrative. All the big names with very little scrutiny.the goal of the group was to “change the narrative” in favor of Israel, partly by conveying “the atrocities committed by Hamas … to all Americans.”
If you followed Israeli media and commentators you would not learn anything new in this group. The group just summarised the Israeli governments main points.The chat group formed shortly after the Oct. 7 attack, and its activism has stretched beyond New York, touching the highest levels of the Israeli government, the U.S. business world and elite universities. Titled “Israel Current Events,” the chat eventually expanded to about 100 members, the chat log shows. More than a dozen members of the group appear on Forbes’s annual list of billionaires; others work in real estate, finance and communications.
And how successful has it been? Does anyone believe Israel is winning the PR warOverall, the messages offer a window into how some prominent individuals have wielded their money and power in an effort to shape American views of the Gaza war, as well as the actions of academic, business and political leaders — including New York’s mayor.
Absolutely. We've entered an Alice in wonderland, through the looking glass kind of world where the truth has been inverted. If you aren't following the Israelis you will believe whatever else you read or hear.Cypriot Israeli real estate billionaire Yakir Gabay, a chat member, wrote in a statement shared by a spokesperson that he joined the group because he wanted to “share support at a difficult and painful time,” to aid the victims of Hamas attacks and to “try and correct the false and misleading information intentionally spread worldwide to deny or cover up the suffering caused by Hamas.”
Yeah those are the facts but see the sarcasm implied by this journalist in using quotesThe mayor has subsequently alleged student activists were affected by “outside influences” — and that police intervention was needed to prevent “children” from being “radicalized.”
Nice effort, every little bit helps if only to get at the silent majority who would be open to a different opinion.On Oct. 12, a staffer for Sternlicht relayed a message from his boss outlining the group’s mission: While Israel worked to “win the physical war,” the chat group’s members would “help win the war” of U.S. public opinion by funding an information campaign against Hamas.
Have already posted about Tiktok in another thread. Israeli influencers had no chance on Tiktok.Some of the media campaign’s activities were public, including its website, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook and X accounts, which together attracted more than 170,000 followers.
This is the sad reality if you're a jew living outside Israel with absolutely nothing to do with this conflict. If you look Jewish you become a potential target. Places frequented or Jewish owned tooAt a moment of rising antisemitism, the staffer for Sternlicht wrote in one of the first chat messages that his boss was proud of his Jewish heritage and wanted to support Israel, but was also concerned about security. Anonymity, the staffer wrote Oct. 12 on Sternlicht’s behalf, “is a practical need and concern for safety of my family in an increasingly complex world.”
So get a black guy to do it thenThe staffer wrote that Sternlicht understood if other members felt similarly and promised that all contributions to the media campaign would remain anonymous. “I’m sensitive to concerns about being less effective if it appears that this is a Jewish initiative,” the staffer wrote, speaking for Sternlicht.
He's been on many news channels. Even has a you tube channel. Are people listening?“Most appreciative for the behind the scenes briefing by Naftali Bennett,” Schultz, the former CEO of Starbucks, wrote to the group on Oct. 16. “Quite extraordinary!”
Yeah, I've heard about this film. Kashmir Files was bad enough for me. This is a horror film that is 10x worse. I know and believe what happened. I don't need more proof.In late October, the chat records show, chat members appear to have suggested to Israeli officials they should hold a private New York City screening for media of “Bearing Witness,” the IDF film featuring graphic footage recorded by Hamas gunmen on body cameras and cellphones as they attacked Israel. Sitt wrote in a message to the group on Oct. 27 that Israeli officials wanted to thank them “for coming up with the concept of the press event in NYC.”
Such innocuous phrasing. More like get beaten up at anytime and need escorts to accompany you from one part of the campus to another. And all this had to be organised by Jewish student orgs. Some campuses had liberated zones ie. Jew free and no help from the university that you pay high fees for.Columbia students first set up an encampment April 17, eventually leading some Jewish students to allege the protests had forged a hostile and harassing atmosphere. Police stepped in to clear the encampment at the Columbia president’s request on April 18, arresting more than 100 demonstrators.
That was youssef Haddad. Know why he was hit? Because this one guy can prove Israeli Arabs that make up 20% of Israeli citizens are not second class citizens and in fact are more free and have more rights as arabs in Israel than they would be anywhere else in the Arab world. Putting the lie in the 'apartheid state' slogan.Lubetzky, of the snack company Kind, posted in the chat sharing a link to an Instagram video showing an Israeli Arab journalist getting hit by a man the video caption claims is an “anti-Israel protester.” Not long after, billionaire Blavatnik posted a picture of Adams and wrote, “He needs help.”
How important are these protests for US students among other concerns?
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It's like ninth in the list of issues.
Just 13% think so. Of which only 8% took part. But you wouldn't think that given the publicity
A large majority (81%) of students support holding protesters accountable, agreeing with the notion that those who destroyed property or vandalized or illegally occupied buildings should be held responsible by their university, per the survey.
- A majority also said they oppose the protest tactics: 67% say occupying campus buildings is unacceptable and 58% say it's not acceptable to refuse a university's order to disperse.
- Another 90% said blocking pro-Israel students from parts of campus is unacceptable.
Quite revealing
Oh really
In addition to my earlier reply, let's get into that 'etc' bit more because it dwarfs the other things you think the US gets from Israel.And before you say it's "aid", know that no country, much less the USA, is not so naive to simply give $300billion of aid to any country if it doesn't expect something in return (be it intelligence via MOSSAD, technology developed by them, etc).