Reggae in colleges.
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Ah! You can contact Aircel for the same, sorry we are going OT but honestly who edited the thread title to Reggae in College from Ragging in college?
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, Forget about who did it, but there are 2 Supermods here (Gannu and Crazy_Eddy) I think they can re-correct the thread title.
College is very much a training ground for your adult personality and teaches you a whole lot more than just what's in your textbook .. despite the presence of ragging or not.
I guess I have clarified that physical ragging is grossly wrong and un-needed .. but people still want to rant on about it.
And to a lesser extent.. there is even opposition to interacting with seniors in college..
What happened with you is quite unfortunate and I'm sure it didn't make you feel like doling out the same treatment to your juniors or turn you into a psychopath or inflict Stockholms ..
And that 1% argument that you propose is valid for a lot of things .. which should and should not be banned since college is only for studying so there are lot things that interfere with that.
Yes, if a person chooses to remain separated from his college atmosphere then it certainly is his choice( I don't disagree with that) .. but use that as a contradiction is what I find quite wrong.
Not necessarily. College is meant for studies, and even if ancillary aspects are taught, ragging is teaching nothing, apart from embarrassment and humor for others. I really cannot see you how can justify this on and on. It is really really harsh on your part. I am not a parent: but asking you, how would you feel if your child was cross questioned in this manner. Heck, I even hate it if someone speaks to me, if I do not know them. It is extremely rude and stupid. And cross questioning is just as bad. Why is my privacy being breached. It is equivalent to strangers walking into my house to have a party, while watching a match on my tv. I just abhor this thought.
Cause physical ragging is a forerunner of verbal ragging. All fights start from the mouth-->hands. AND, why do juniors have to interact with seniors..? There is no mandate around this. And girls get it the worse, sorry to say. Most seniors as it is, are desperate and looking for some crude fun.
It did raise the urge for me to rag my juniors, when I came of age. And I did make some cry. I was part of the cyclical movement.
Like what all. For that 1%...? It was something to exemplify your logic of "all cannot be satisfied". Ragging is not a meting our of services, I am sure you understand that, so the satisfaction angle is fail; it is subjugation and questioning. The junior is not receiving anything, he is giving up something. The corollary is not right, @dexBG.
What..what you saying. What contradiction is incorrect..?
1. I do not like a certain food.
2. I am asked to eat it.
3. No.
4. But 20 others next to me are eating it. So....?
You are saying (3) cannot be satisfied. I am not asking for anything, I am not saying I am hungry, I am not mocking the others eating...why am I forced to eat it. No junior say..."come RAG me". They are forced to go through this BS and idiotic practice. I have been at both ends of this spectrum, and still hate myself for the 2nd part of the equation. Not for what I underwent, but what I did to other, even it was verbal. Yuck.
How is that an incorrect contradiction...? Please explain.
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Okay, what is going on here?
I was like " I really need to get some more sleep " before I realized that the title had actually been changed
dexBG :
Please use the quote function to reply to such long posts. It is really difficult to reply else wise. I had to pick up your whole post and then add in tags. When I was quoting the above I was getting "10charstopost". I am sure, you do not want me to reply to just that much.
Why is that line a personal contraction, per say. I am stating what is true. Is it not. There are many like that, unless you really like it when strangers walk up to you and question you about your background. Do you..? It is not personal, it was written in to highlight the plight of those undergoing ragging. It is not a personal habit, it is a general thought process of society at large. Just cause you cannot answer it, do not resort to ad hominem.
I really do not get it. Why are you lying about what seniors do. Are they in there to build relationships with juniors, and teach them about excercise. Was your college about team building, and learning about life, vs. education. I am in doubt now. Of course they are doing it for fun. Why else...? Please enlighten me. I think we both have the base incorrect else wise. Why is ragging done. To get to know each other...? Is that how you will get to know your future wife or friends outside college. Make them stand up and do joker antics, and questioned with their head down. Where else does this happen...? What method is this, for mature adults. It is archaic and subjective and shows a superiority complex. And a method for people to be marshaled and made to realize, you are lower. Poll this question, why ragging is done. Am sure, you will get your answers. Please.
Many cried, when 10 are shouting / instructing on your head. It is very very easy to break a mind, when one is isolated. And this is not even the tip of the ice-berg. You seem a veteran, why you asking...? No junior cried during your time, or in your batch when you were a fresher...? If NOT, then you should not be answering here, cause you have not seen the actual depth and stigma of ragging.
Please use the quote function to reply to such long posts. It is really difficult to reply else wise. I had to pick up your whole post and then add in tags. When I was quoting the above I was getting "10charstopost". I am sure, you do not want me to reply to just that much.
And the college is also not the personal backyard of seniors or anyone. I am surprised you did not see that. A personal space is someones own property, and that is breached when he is unnecessarily questioned. So shut up with your commandeering of "bringing in rubbish". And watch you mouth. Are the students property of seniors that they can be summoned up by anyone and questioned, in what so ever manner. A group walking up and lining up people and questioning them.
Why is that line a personal contraction, per say. I am stating what is true. Is it not. There are many like that, unless you really like it when strangers walk up to you and question you about your background. Do you..? It is not personal, it was written in to highlight the plight of those undergoing ragging. It is not a personal habit, it is a general thought process of society at large. Just cause you cannot answer it, do not resort to ad hominem.
Yea, I wrote it the wrong way round. Sorry, and thanks for correcting the syntax.
I really do not get it. Why are you lying about what seniors do. Are they in there to build relationships with juniors, and teach them about excercise. Was your college about team building, and learning about life, vs. education. I am in doubt now. Of course they are doing it for fun. Why else...? Please enlighten me. I think we both have the base incorrect else wise. Why is ragging done. To get to know each other...? Is that how you will get to know your future wife or friends outside college. Make them stand up and do joker antics, and questioned with their head down. Where else does this happen...? What method is this, for mature adults. It is archaic and subjective and shows a superiority complex. And a method for people to be marshaled and made to realize, you are lower. Poll this question, why ragging is done. Am sure, you will get your answers. Please.
Yes.
Many cried, when 10 are shouting / instructing on your head. It is very very easy to break a mind, when one is isolated. And this is not even the tip of the ice-berg. You seem a veteran, why you asking...? No junior cried during your time, or in your batch when you were a fresher...? If NOT, then you should not be answering here, cause you have not seen the actual depth and stigma of ragging.
Semantics. I call it xxxx..you call it yyyy. I am fine with that. But as per me, it should be totally repealed, cause it serves nothing in the positive.
Oh God. The food is forced in someones mouth. How analogous should I get. Were you all chirpy and smiling and hippie when your ragging was happen...? Including all the "n" number around you. YOU never saw anyone dissatisfied. My experience was not terrible, I got Mr. Fresher. What more can I say. There is something known as empathy. Learn that, even if in retrospect.
No it is not. It is to highlight a point. We all do that on forums. Whose example should I use. The sensational new papers..? That is why I have kept it all in-the-box. A topic like this is going to be littered with personal experiences and incidents. If you have a problem with non-generalization, do not answer then, man. Do not poke holes in an argument and turn it around. That is not fair.
Replying inline seems easier to type down .. so I did that ..
I think you could have said personal space to begin with, some people I guess are more sensitive about it .. and I'll watch my mouth if you do too.
I was using observations in my posts .. stuff i've seen with my own eyes .. not the "I like this, I am like this .. I hate that" comparisons.
For full disclosure .. according to me .. certain aspects of ragging, intros, questioning, dress code are acceptable & fine .. not speaking about the over-sensitive bunch who always seem to be there, apparently even asking some their name is considered attempted breach of privacy. There is however extreme behavior which are not acceptable under any circumstances. I believe that college is a certain hierarchical system .. not a system of torment (since this will obviously get twisted down the line)
I wasn't chirpy or happy when I got ragged but looking back I don't cry about it .. those who had it worse should not have gone through that .. but a to a lesser extent these things shouldn't be banned outright..
You are stating what's true according to you personally, you don't like talking to people. You treasure your personal space.. to use those example as justification seems 'unnecessary'
Full disclosure again .. I never made a junior cry, didn't purposely torment anyone. Few who were caught bragging were set right .. Again you must bring in the extremities with each post you make just to increase your word count ( I guess)
And please again with the outrageous examples .. jeez. Ragging a future wife or friend, at least don't make me reply to these each time.
Ragging is done to get the new batch to fit in .. you seem obsessed only with the harsh treatment metted out .. if thats what the discussion is about then I abdicate .. but then whats the point of having that discussion. No one would be on the other side. Everyone deserves humane treatment but according to you even the lightest ragging is indicates psychotic behavior.
It might seem fun to some .. do ridicule people .. buts thats their behavior generally. No one turns tormentor just because of ragging .. people are like that before ragging and will not change if ragging is removed. There are lot of things in life you can find undermining and submissive .. what I understand is that you will respond only an authority you deem worthy .. being a year older in college does not meet that criteria .. so being asked to line up seems a gross invasion of personal liberty.
Sigh.
You started it !
but I guess the discussion has landed right back to what you wrote in the first post.
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