Honestly, I liked the way you replied quite alot more than previous, and I respect that, hence the like. My personal views have always been respect all religions, and I'm sure your views are the same right? (I hope), Now in some religion if cow have always been important, then let it. Isn't that what we all believe in, live and let live? I personally don't give a .... , my beliefs are all animals are equal and to treat them humanly (except for some delicious one's)
Coming to your reply now, I don't remember which or what movie or tv show I watched but I totally agreed with it, when someone asked, you know why someone votes the way they vote for a political party? is it development? is it they are honest? is it they have good core values? is it their policies are quite good compared to the other's? is it their way to conduct business? is it their personality? No. Zilch! 99% of the population votes, coz of fear. Fear. Fear for keeping their religion, fear for bad actors, fear for development, fear can be of 1000 other things. Now why do people vote for BJP? is it religion? Perhaps. but is it really? Let's dive into the history shall we? isn't this the same people who voted for congress all these years? People say these people vote for BJP because they are illiterate and Modi takes advantage of that. Oh, so does that mean earlier people were quite educated who used to vote for congress? These are baseless arguments. Now, as I said before , When in Rome, do what romans do is exactly what BJP applied and it worked for them. You as far as I have seen your posts (over the yrs) , you are a NRI or may be you come here or go US? So it is easy to compare US politics to India? Religion politics seen here seems yuck or pathetic, but US's politics have really turned hell alot ugly, to that extent that CIVIL unrest and CIVIL war is all the intelligence agencies are anticipating there. Do we want that here?
Your wording to "I can't stand this Govt for the reason fill in the blanks_______" that basically say's your way of not liking this Govt is purely and passionately out of hate. Hate.
Now, your stance of modern politics or modern world is that there is no space for religion. But my great sir, understand, we are in India. The only damn thing here works to calm down the population is let them have their faith, their religion , that's the damn thing that calms the hell down to these people. My personal views is It's pathetic(Yes pathetic) how much religion have always been upmost priority to Indian people. Modi knows that. We are not ready for that kind of change, may be in 50-80yrs but currently strictly No, and probably the reason why west's political influenced never worked here to achieve their foreign policy target's though that never makes them stop though. The more you will try to change minds of people here, the more they will become "kattar" (stubborn) to keeping their faith.
I myself laugh at people who call other people bhakts. It's a strategy that the opposition thought will work but the only thing that did was to give congress an ego boost. They damn don't understand earlier if different caste people even voted for them and other's might didn't, atleast congress was getting votes and had the PMO. Now they keep and keep and keep on calling people bhakts and that influenced other Left oriented people to call RW bhakts too. Understand the technicality here, Hindus , we all know have the majority population right? but atleast earlier they were divided. The only people who never had unity was Hindus. We(I am also an Hindu) were cowards. We probably still are cowards. But when you call group of people bhakts , you put them in a group which won't make them feel offended but only make them unite. Hence the reason of more seats for BJP in 2019 rather than 2014. I for sure thought in 2019 they won't get the majority but they did hence my assessment.
Why do other religion people have so much unity? Because they are called a word. Some terrorists, some khalistanis, some chinkis, some bihari's and what not. Here you(not personally you) grouped all those divided people a tag bhakts. Wht you think a named group people do? Unite and vote. It's that simple.
To reply to your last topic for minority appeasement. Let me tell you but giving you an example. I'm from Jammu, (J&K) , you know Jammu and Kashmir has always been together, state name, UT or w/e, but do you know how much Jammu people or kashmir people hate each other? Why? There were so many damn reasons that I can't even count. I'll tell you abt Jammu people here. They hate not even kashmiri muslims but even kashmiri hindus too but not to the extent of being voilent, same goes for hindu kashmiri's, haven't seen voilence from there side too, however we all know the level of violence goes in Kashmir. Reasons - ex - If internet goes down in kashmir, it goes down in Jammu too where as violence in Jammu is 1/100 of kashmir or even less than that. We hate that we get dragged in every policy of center because of kashmir. If we get dragged, ladakh get's dragged too. Now, there always have been Muslim CM in J&K, never ever Hindu, it's not the religion of CM, we hate, it's the muslim appeasement where as muslims are not even minority in there. Imagine. Where center in UPA did minority appeasement for the vote bank, laughs are for the politics in J&K where they not only do Muslim appeasement, they soooo much encourage it. You wanna see the way people were treated? Ladakh, they were treated the worst. Worst. Just check this out
<< each and every damn word of it is true to the core. When center pays so much to the J&K govt with muslim leadership and they put 70% of that money for kashmir rather than dividing it equally, that's what happens. You are afraid is the same happen to you, my dear sir, same exactly has already happened to Kashmiri Hindus. People talk about kashmir and kashmir, and then kashmir, and ofcourse kashmir, and in UN whenever the topic comes, they name is "J&K" in papers, and there you go , jammu get's dragged.
I have so much to write, but this has gotten way too long. Remember one thing, when you have fear of one Govt, you will vote for the opposition but did you ever understand how you got that fear? and who benefits from that fear? Wire is one of many many other publications who is opposed to everything what this regime does, hence it's in their best interest's in creating fear to convince people to vote for the opposition. Why it still doesn't work? because my good sir, as I said before , people are sick of the opposition, they are done for good. That fear was created in your mind hence it works for their interests. It doesn't just go in journalism, it works in social media ofcourse aswell. I'll say watch The social dilemma, it's amazing how the news and media changes our mind and after 20-30 years, we might call ourselves humans but in reality we will be robots (probably including me) and puppets for them to do what they say without even realizing this is called Digital slavery.
Not being in the line of fire? we never get in line of fire. Not even under UPA. People under line of fire are the one's who have done corruption under NDA, are the one's who use violence. People talk about kashmir but never talk about the exodus of kashmiri Hindus, why? I pity the kashmiri Hindus, but the best thing they ever did when they were thrown out of kashmir was never take up arms and start terrorism. If that doesn't tell you the tolerance power of them, nothing will. Instead, they worked, and got jobs and gave education to their kids so that they can earn a good standard of living. Even though when they came to Jammu, and belonging to the same religion, people of Jammu hated them coz they took our jobs, but never did violence. Those were the people who were in line of fire and what did they do? No terrorism, no cry foul or none of them started journalism to punch or propoganda against UPA, they just remained calm while they had tears in their eyes and cried in their heart. I have so many friend's in kashmiri hindus community and all I see is, they don't even talk about the incident or don't even wanna raise their voice or don't want to exercise their freedom of speech. Now that's called true peace. They though whenever talked about, cried, and cried and had that cannon in their heart but I applaud how they over came it. I myself could never ever do it. You wanna exercise your right to speech, go ahead. But, if you don't know where and when you cross the line, then don't start crying for FOS, and FOE. Govt has the power and surely you can go to the judiciary. Are all those who get arrested is fair, may be not. But I see people getting arrested for abusing someone's god (me myself DGAF much abt religion personally). They should be thankful they are getting just arrested, the same if done to the other so called "peace loving religion" people, behead people. No one talks about that. No one! Why? coz it suits your agenda of hate towards current regime.
Life was destroyed, by the other sides years ago, no one gave a F and still not much has been done about it (even after getting rid of 370) but atleast something was done. Baby steps is all we can ask for.
Yeah, I can handle a conversation and not use abusive language at the same time, so... good for you.
Not replying to so much BS (even here) because I don't really wish to get into arguments with folks
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