Darklord said:Huh ??:huh: When did i deny it is TCC5 ? i just said, i am not sure....
But looking at those results i dont see any reason to regret having TCC5 instead of TCCD.
But then again great people are never satisfied with anything less than the best...
deejay said:You must be a real brave guy ...... running cpu-z , A64 Tweaker, and a system pll control program all at the same time.:no:
I suggest you do not use all the 3 at the same time. There is a small chance that doing so might have unpredictable effects on the hardware....prevention is better than cure....
For pure mhz speed , hand picked TCCD is the best.
for low latencies, high bandwidth BH-5 is the best.
(very difficult to find BH-5 now...)
for peace of mind a hand picked TCCD running at 2.7 ~ 2.8 Vdimm is optimum. in the sense you can start testing at 300mhz (memory) and go to about 320 mhz easily
beyond that requires some minor tweaking ...but i guess at these speeds the cpu will be the limiting factor...
DFI Ultra-d m/b's give excellent results with TCCD and the DFI Expert plays well with BH-5. The Venus plays well with both of them .....
deejay said:@ karan,
msg for you was this only. and UCCC are the same class / variant as that of TCCD / TCC5 its just that they are "UNTESTED" hence they go in the cheaper or Value modules.
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"You must be a real brave guy ...... running cpu-z , A64 Tweaker, and a system pll control program all at the same time.
I suggest you do not use all the 3 at the same time. There is a small chance that doing so might have unpredictable effects on the hardware....prevention is better than cure...."
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The rest was for the benefit of the members as i see a lot of them have recently purchased DFI m/b's recently from IT Depot people and are o/c'ing like there was no tomorrow.....
Deejay said:DFI Ultra-d m/b's give excellent results with TCCD and the DFI Expert plays well with BH-5.
Crazy_Eddy said:I agree with this point, and I thought I had mentioned it earlier too (or probably not!).
The Expert solves the issues with BH/CH based memory primarily by completely re-designing/fixing the 4v vdimm VR issue. However the focus it gave towards high-voltage memory saw it suffering when teamed up with TCCD, a lot of folks reportedly had issues crossing past DDR550 even though they could manage DDR600 speeds easily on prev boards.
I was confused when I saw a lot of people with TCCD/TCC5 based RAM giving up their Ultra-D boards and going in for DFI Expert boards . But I believe that design wise there is virtually no difference between the Expert and Venus (only diff being the higher-quality components), hence a lot of folks assume the Venus BIOS'es should work fine on Expert boards (and they have tried the same too if i'm not mistaken) - this should give you the best of both worlds.
Crazy_Eddy said:^ I never said the fixed VR hobbled its support for TCCD, I just made a generalised statement saying the Expert board gave "focus" towards high voltage memory
And yes the Venus does solve all those issues with TCCD, but since i'm not aware of any 'design' based differences between the two.. I assume the BIOS is what's making the difference?
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