Windows Vista To Power Up Indian Railways
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Party Monger
Juggernaut
no pwnage.if you dont understands the benefits of Open Source ,it is NOT good for you.what with me? .
I think ,the problem with you kiddo's are you are thinking you are too smart?
favoring windows for what? Do you like to live under the boots of bill gates?
Do you want freedom of Open Source?
Living under the boots of bill gate??:rofl: Where did that come from???
Are you even aware of the strictest anti trust regulations???
Dont you know that you are directly or indirectly using Linux and Open Source? (web servers ,db apps ,google and what not! apache,mysql et al) .
Yes i do, But do u understand that not everything works everywhere?? Some places reliablity, support and timely action matter more?? Is
that hard to understand??
@party monger :stfu boy.you dont know much ,I feel.simply locked under window$ ,nursing your winblow$ with anti-spyware ,anti-virus and what not..
Oh no dud, jus the kaspersy AV for good measure..never ran into problems without it either..You should try it..:rofl:
Nobody cared to reply this -dont you know the problems of M$ eco-system that is currently here:
EULA lock ,vendor lock-in ,DRM ,software Patent and sueing ,paying royalty for crappy s/w patents hindering development of new ideas.
Yeah i know these problems..But i consider my life more important..
FOSS is not only about Free s/w but also towards a sane eco-system ,where a devel can live by coding without fear of s/w patent,sueing by monopolists etc.
Sure.. it is..Here we are talking abt railways..millions of people depend on it..
I think ,the problem with you kiddo's are you are thinking you are too smart?
favoring windows for what? Do you like to live under the boots of bill gates?
Do you want freedom of Open Source?
Living under the boots of bill gate??:rofl: Where did that come from???
Are you even aware of the strictest anti trust regulations???
Dont you know that you are directly or indirectly using Linux and Open Source? (web servers ,db apps ,google and what not! apache,mysql et al) .
Yes i do, But do u understand that not everything works everywhere?? Some places reliablity, support and timely action matter more?? Is
that hard to understand??
@party monger :stfu boy.you dont know much ,I feel.simply locked under window$ ,nursing your winblow$ with anti-spyware ,anti-virus and what not..
Oh no dud, jus the kaspersy AV for good measure..never ran into problems without it either..You should try it..:rofl:
Nobody cared to reply this -dont you know the problems of M$ eco-system that is currently here:
EULA lock ,vendor lock-in ,DRM ,software Patent and sueing ,paying royalty for crappy s/w patents hindering development of new ideas.
Yeah i know these problems..But i consider my life more important..
FOSS is not only about Free s/w but also towards a sane eco-system ,where a devel can live by coding without fear of s/w patent,sueing by monopolists etc.
Sure.. it is..Here we are talking abt railways..millions of people depend on it..
Party Monger
Juggernaut
Honestly never faced any such issues after XP Service Pack 2, it depends on user, his awareness level, online habbits, I can easily indentify something wrong in PC. what nursing ?? install AV like Avast free and no worry LOL.
U r gone too far now, no1 is favoring Microsoft here, nice discussion going, post facts, its tech forum, dont expect every1 to agree with U. Bill Gates is genious person, U r not matured anough to comment on him, comment on company no issues, but not directly on person like gates.
Again U wanna proove Linux is better, when thread is abt Vista and Railways.
Please try and be polite with your responses. If you disagree with someones point of view, attack their argument with facts, not comments directed at the person themself. if U r knowledgeable U dont have to shout, we can observe.
I have replied in this thread due to UR single sided comments, I agree Linux is good, but why felt MS Vista is unsecure etc.
U r gone too far now, no1 is favoring Microsoft here, nice discussion going, post facts, its tech forum, dont expect every1 to agree with U. Bill Gates is genious person, U r not matured anough to comment on him, comment on company no issues, but not directly on person like gates.
Again U wanna proove Linux is better, when thread is abt Vista and Railways.
Please try and be polite with your responses. If you disagree with someones point of view, attack their argument with facts, not comments directed at the person themself. if U r knowledgeable U dont have to shout, we can observe.
I have replied in this thread due to UR single sided comments, I agree Linux is good, but why felt MS Vista is unsecure etc.
It is about thinking simply a bit more on cost-effective solutions. I wonder what arguments people can have about the fact that there are Indigenous companies in India that are competent enough to provide any kind of customer support. Why then does the railways choose to go In for a deal with MS , directly putting dollars in the US kitty while it could have easily have hired Infosys or any other software firm to Provide support. Why does India have to rely on buying technology when a free alternative with an indegenous sloution (with tech support) exists ?
We are thoroughly dependent and buyers of technology and equipment in the defence ,Industrial production , And electronic hardware sector . Why not use the only areas of expertise out country has (software and customer support industry) ? Why not create jobs in the country and profit MS instead ?
We are not anywhere close to a rich nation as of now. About 300 million (30 Crore) of our countrymen are below poverty line (monthly per capita consumption expenditure below Rs. 356.35 for rural areas and Rs. 538.60 for urban areas in India ) . India needs to spend wisely particularly because of it's ever increasing Current account deficit as well.
We are thoroughly dependent and buyers of technology and equipment in the defence ,Industrial production , And electronic hardware sector . Why not use the only areas of expertise out country has (software and customer support industry) ? Why not create jobs in the country and profit MS instead ?
We are not anywhere close to a rich nation as of now. About 300 million (30 Crore) of our countrymen are below poverty line (monthly per capita consumption expenditure below Rs. 356.35 for rural areas and Rs. 538.60 for urban areas in India ) . India needs to spend wisely particularly because of it's ever increasing Current account deficit as well.
Party Monger said:
No more post but . Buddy you really had a screwed head.. Please go through the basics before posting ... Open Source in no sense means free.. though most of the Open Source means free but its not.. Open Source means the code base of the software is available for any change .. The person can see what kind of codes has been implemented in the s/w . and can change and use that code with the need of permission ..
Oh really ! I think people like you don't believe in Prevention is better than cure theory.. Isn't .it ? How many times you have used Linux and how many times it had crashed.. .. You are supporting Windows like you yourself own a genuine copy
Rofl .. You really don't know anything.. Several developers.. I think you consider as big giant robot who coded all this . .. and all Linux developers are sleeping ?
Reputation and Money and MS ? huh... I think you never read news.. Though I won't link but just telling you. MS has been fined many a times by EU .. Had been left from Univ. School for overcharging on OS and office s/w..Lots of countries has banished the use of Windows atleast in Offices..and you can get more info from Google , Ubuntu Cd's Live ! , and Digg.
Just quote a point we ignored ///
@ Rio : Whats wrong with using smilies ? Also if it is so bad then why it is implemented everywhere ? Were Forum developers drinking beer when they implemented it ? :S
Kumar said:
I don't understand why everyone is in such a combative mood. We're discussing whether the decision to go for Vista is a good one, and the fact that government has regularly been making awful decisions does not make this acceptable. If someone has a point, bring it forward gracefully....we're on the same side here fellas !
My objection here is more to the mindset . A few instances here and there won't hurt much but a lack of concern about government spending among the people is the best thing that could happen to this generation of "thugs" disguised as politicians .
Anyone who has a reason to choose benefiting MS instead of an Indian firm, please come up with reasons. I will be more than happy .
PS: This thread should be moved to the general talk section IMO .
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Juggernaut
I wish people here would have the same sanity you posess...Neotheone said:
That too when someone has only pressed valid points that even in the worst case can be answered with simple logic/ arguments (if they hav one.)..
It really steals the initiative from a forum like TE..People abusing and demeaning other people jus to FORCE their POV on others..
Neotheone said:
I understand your dollar argument, The thing is, being an govt organization, railways gets a whole lot of benefits from Ms, they are probably getting it at dirt cheap rates.
The willingness to pay the high dollar (if u still insist) also comes form the fact that railways is the lifeline of India. And if in their efforts, they thought vista would be the best, why do we have to complain?? Surely we don't consider ourself more intelligent than people who run an organization that employs the highest amt of people and operates the single biggest railways operation in the world, For heavens sake they are called by the British Govt to provide guidance on development of their railways system..
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Juggernaut
No more post but .
But stil you cant resist flaming others right?
Buddy you really had a screwed head..
Oh yeah, look who's talking..Read the next few lines and then tell me who has a screwed head??
Open Source in no sense means free..
Hmmm...
though most of the Open Source means free but its not..
Wat the hell???
Open Source means the code base of the software is available for any change .. The person can see what kind of codes has been implemented in the s/w . and can change and use that code with the need of permission ..
So in effect its free right??
Oh really ! I think people like you don't believe in Prevention is better than cure theory.. Isn't .it ?
I do, thats why i said that railways went with vista cause MS has the best enterprise support..They dont want to put the lives of thousands of people at stake(ranging from time delay to accidents).Its already laid out in plain words in the posts above...
How many times you have used Linux and how many times it had crashed.. .. 10 to 12 distro's.. ranging form fedora, ubuntu, mint, puppy, damn small linux, mandriva, open suse, Pc linux, knoppix, slax, kubuntu , edbuntu and a few more that i dont remember...Most of them had some problem or the other..ranging from hardware support to application incompatiblity to downright system instablity..yet i also had good times with ubuntu feisty..
You are supporting Windows like you yourself own a genuine copy
Yeah i do..Do ask for proof if u want..But just incase u dont know, its none of your business...
Reputation and Money and MS ? huh... I think you never read news.. Though I won't link but just telling you. MS has been fined many a times by EU .. Had been left from Univ. School for overcharging on OS and office s/w..Lots of countries has banished the use of Windows atleast in Offices..and you can get more info from Google , Ubuntu Cd's Live ! , and Digg.
Please read all my posts in this thread...i myself have mentioned the above..And its a boon for us since microsoft stays in the scanner of these organizations and hence cant afford to cheat..perspective you see..
Just quote a point we ignored ///
Everything you said was more of a miss...
But stil you cant resist flaming others right?
Buddy you really had a screwed head..
Oh yeah, look who's talking..Read the next few lines and then tell me who has a screwed head??
Open Source in no sense means free..
Hmmm...
though most of the Open Source means free but its not..
Wat the hell???
Open Source means the code base of the software is available for any change .. The person can see what kind of codes has been implemented in the s/w . and can change and use that code with the need of permission ..
So in effect its free right??
Says so over here The Open Source Definition | Open Source Initiative
Oh really ! I think people like you don't believe in Prevention is better than cure theory.. Isn't .it ?
I do, thats why i said that railways went with vista cause MS has the best enterprise support..They dont want to put the lives of thousands of people at stake(ranging from time delay to accidents).Its already laid out in plain words in the posts above...
How many times you have used Linux and how many times it had crashed.. .. 10 to 12 distro's.. ranging form fedora, ubuntu, mint, puppy, damn small linux, mandriva, open suse, Pc linux, knoppix, slax, kubuntu , edbuntu and a few more that i dont remember...Most of them had some problem or the other..ranging from hardware support to application incompatiblity to downright system instablity..yet i also had good times with ubuntu feisty..
You are supporting Windows like you yourself own a genuine copy
Yeah i do..Do ask for proof if u want..But just incase u dont know, its none of your business...
Reputation and Money and MS ? huh... I think you never read news.. Though I won't link but just telling you. MS has been fined many a times by EU .. Had been left from Univ. School for overcharging on OS and office s/w..Lots of countries has banished the use of Windows atleast in Offices..and you can get more info from Google , Ubuntu Cd's Live ! , and Digg.
Please read all my posts in this thread...i myself have mentioned the above..And its a boon for us since microsoft stays in the scanner of these organizations and hence cant afford to cheat..perspective you see..
Just quote a point we ignored ///
Everything you said was more of a miss...
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Juggernaut
@Partymonger : I am really enjoying the flame war here , I will step in when necessary but will you please for the love of TE members use quotes instead of coloring your reply ? It gets very annoying to read.
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